Blade Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 as far as I can remember they've never launched a console without a Mario game and I can't see them stopping that tradition now. GameCube did not have a Mario game at launch if I remember correctly.
S.C.G Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 GameCube did not have a Mario game at launch if I remember correctly. You are correct, the Nintendo GameCube launched in Europe on May 3rd 2002. Super Mario Sunshine didn't see a release until October 4th 2002. Just over five months after the GameCube came out... ...so I suppose we could call it a "launch window" title.
Clownferret Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Oh Ok in that case I stand corrected. I remember Star Wars as a launch game for Gamecube and I'm sure I bought 3 games on day one but can't remember the other 2. I didn't buy a Wii at launch so didn't know what that launched with.
dazzybee Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 as far as I can remember they've never launched a console without a Mario game and I can't see them stopping that tradition now. Gamecube didn't. Just seen others have said the same.
S.C.G Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I remember buying my Nintendo GameCube on launch day like it was yesterday. One console in Black was purchased, with one additional controller, a memory card 59 and two games which were Wave Race: Blue Storm and Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II... all purchased for around £215! Those were the days.
Ronnie Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Rogue Leader, what a game! Why hasn't there been anything like it since.
Kounan Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I would like if they have 3-4 of their big games at launch, but I am not sure it will happen. Zelda, Mario or another platformer and Mario Kart, plus Smash (which is coming). These 4 are totally different games (adventure game, platformer, racing game, fighting game) so for everyone something. Of course they could delay something if there are good third party games at launch and that something is probably going to be Mario Kart, but the only problem is that there will be no racing games at the beginning. That also would give enough time for DLC's to be made. They really need their big sellers at the beginning and Zelda is a great start as it will push console sales and than the third party support should do enough to fill up periods of droughts. Of course, as @dazzybee has mentioned, if they could develop games for only one platform (or make it able to port games to both platforms without much effort) it would change almost everything as they would have more than enough games. Are there any news about Hyrule Warriors 2?
Ashley Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Oh Ok in that case I stand corrected. I remember Star Wars as a launch game for Gamecube and I'm sure I bought 3 games on day one but can't remember the other 2. I didn't buy a Wii at launch so didn't know what that launched with. This gem of an exclusive surely:
Glen-i Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Are there any news about Hyrule Warriors 2? Legends just came out! Give it a bit more time for that game to settle in first.
Goron_3 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I would like if they have 3-4 of their big games at launch, but I am not sure it will happen. Zelda, Mario or another platformer and Mario Kart, plus Smash (which is coming). These 4 are totally different games (adventure game, platformer, racing game, fighting game) so for everyone something. Of course they could delay something if there are good third party games at launch and that something is probably going to be Mario Kart, but the only problem is that there will be no racing games at the beginning. That also would give enough time for DLC's to be made. They really need their big sellers at the beginning and Zelda is a great start as it will push console sales and than the third party support should do enough to fill up periods of droughts. Of course, as @dazzybee has mentioned, if they could develop games for only one platform (or make it able to port games to both platforms without much effort) it would change almost everything as they would have more than enough games. Are there any news about Hyrule Warriors 2? We'll get another Mario Kart within the first 12 months I reckon. The team won't be preoccipied making a new handheld version like they were with Mario Kart 7/8 and I'm sure the last engine can be upgraded fairly easily.
dazzybee Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Yeah, that's why I don't want Mario Kart 8 ported over, however much i think it is incredible, it's time for Mario Kart 9 and using 8's engine would be more than fine, it looks stunning anyway. Revamping the single player content and battle mode should be the main priorities
Ronnie Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I suspect there'll be a lot of core games on NX becoming platforms, with an early release followed by a generation of content updates and DLC. Smash, Animal Crossing, Splatoon etc. It seems to be the way a lot of games these days are going. Wouldn't be surprised to see Nintendo's one-per-generation games have a long life in them.
Happenstance Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I think what Nintendo will need to do with the NX is make sure any ports they have coming from the PS4/Xbox One are current ones. While it was nice to see that initial list of ports that came for the Wii U launch, seeing a year old Batman Arkham City stood out a bit, especially when it turned out to be a very poorly optimised port with terrible framerate issues. I honestly dont know what I want for the NX launch myself. My personal opinion is that Nintendo go back to the Mario/Zelda etc well too often so while I would prefer it to basically be a load of new IPs, I know thats not really feasible. I dont know what it would take for me to buy one at launch anyway.
Kounan Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Legends just came out! Give it a bit more time for that game to settle in first. That's a 3DS game, but anyway, I was just interested in the info. I still didn't play the first one, but as it has sold well and I think it will sell even better with the next release it should be logical to put it high up the list.
Esequiel Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I remember buying my Nintendo GameCube on launch day like it was yesterday. One console in Black was purchased, with one additional controller, a memory card 59 and two games which were Wave Race: Blue Storm and Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II... all purchased for around £215! Those were the days. I remember mine, I had just started working a couple of months before and went to the midnight launch! Rouge squadron, blue storm, super monkey ball!!
Dog-amoto Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Luigi's Mansion, Super Monkey Ball and Rogue Leader for me. Plus an RGB cable.
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 GameCube did not have a Mario game at launch if I remember correctly. TBF Luigi's Mansion - being Mario's brothers first adventure-type game kind of fills in for that Mario launch game. And Mario Sunshine in the launch window was perfect...(and then Zelda year later). Nintendo got that ish right!
Clownferret Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I've never played a Luigis Mansion so if that's a launce title I'll definitely get that. I haven't played NSMWU or 3D World yet so Mario can wait. Desperately trying to plough through my Wii U backlog. Not going well though, I seem to be stuck on Lego City and I've barely started it!!!!
Kounan Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I've never played a Luigis Mansion so if that's a launce title I'll definitely get that. I haven't played NSMWU or 3D World yet so Mario can wait. Desperately trying to plough through my Wii U backlog. Not going well though, I seem to be stuck on Lego City and I've barely started it!!!! So, I am not the only one who is playing this game right now .
somme Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 The Gamecube didn't have a Mario at launch it had... Luigi's Mansion, which was great at the time. Never played the 3DS one. A Mass Effect (Remastered) trilogy would be great - it could be a timed exclusive but I doubt it'd be an out-and-out exclusive. Zelda and Luigi's Mansion would make a nice launch - hopefully there wouldn't be some weird control scheme or amiibo plastered all over the place.
killthenet Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 I'm starting to get real antsy for NX news now. It seems the closer we get to some real information, the harder it is for me to wait. Really hope we hear something from the investors meeting or from a direct near the launch of Star Fox.
Hero-of-Time Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) Rumour time. This was from Gaf. Yhe user wanted to post it last night but had to wait and get verified from the mods. Ok, this is my first time posting any kind of rumor, leak, or insider information, whatever you want to call it. While I believe the info to be true, things can always change at the last minute and then I look like an asshole who lied. I have more than one source and this post will basically contain things I've heard, conversations I've had with people in the know (other insiders, devs, writers, etc). To make this easier, I think I'll do a tiered rumor ranking, where a T1 (Tier 1) means one source told me this, T2 means two, T3 means three, and T4 means at least four sources or more told me or others the same thing. So T4 rumors have multiple sources and are likely more credible than a T1, but that doesn’t necessarily mean a T1 is false. The bolded parts will be the rumor, the text after it will be additional info mixed with some of my opinion, and the sources thoughts. Also, while I was writing this short essay I asked my new sources about the May 9th NX reveal date, they said they'd look into it. Remember, I'm no journalist or english major :p T4 Rumors The NX will be more powerful than the PS4. "By a noticeable amount". From the CPU, to GPU, to RAM. Sources don't know the clock speeds, or memory type or amount of memory. But if the CPU is 15-30% stronger than PS4 as alluded to by LCGeek, than the GPU would need to match that bump in order to not bottleneck (Nintendo hates their bottlenecks). The Wii U Remasters. 100% confirmed Smash Bros 4 will come to NX, no word on if you can play with Wii U players. Zelda is 100% confirmed and not really big news :P Now here is where things get interesting. One source said 100% for sure Mario Maker was coming to NX. Another source said 50%. Why 50%? Well, they can confirm it's in development, Nintendo is struggling to transfer over player data and doesn't want all courses to be lost. Hell, courses are being mysteriously deleted on Wii U already lol. The fourth remaster is Splatoon. This one was given 50% chance from two sources and 99% from one source lol. The reasons again are, Nintendo is struggling to transfer all player data and make it cross-compatible with Wii U players as well. It is in development though. They should have all he DLC included. So, Zelda and Smash for sure, Mario Maker and Splatoon maybe. If Nintendo can't get it working they may scrap it. Smash is rumored for launch along with Zelda (day or window wasn’t specified). Not sure on Mario Maker or Splatoon. What's interesting about this is Splatoon and Mario Maker heavily use touch controls and motion controls. While I certainly expect the NX controller to use gyroscope and accelerometers (since even the DS4, Wii U gamepad, Wii remotes and 3DS use it) this may indicate that there will be a screen in the NX controller. None of my sources indicated troubled development of splatoon and mario maker were controls related, so either it has a screen controller or the second screen support hinted at by the reddit leaker in the OP was right and there will be some kind of optional screen controller or smartglass like features. T2 Rumors NDA's are tight as hell. This one is obvious. But I just wanted to add to it. While fellow posters like Rosti have indicated how heavy they are, my own sources and people I don't even know have warned me privately to watch what I post here (this was all within the last couple of hours lol). One source said they know more Nintendo hardware people than software people, yet the only leaks they've been able to get is on the software side. Not a peep from the hardware guys. I even had people asking what the contents of my post were going to be, if names, job positions, marketing budgets (lol) were going to be posted. A lot of people got very worried, including my sources, the fear of Nintendo is real. They are cracking down. The fake leaks aren't helping either. As someone who just started snooping for NX info and asking questions out of general curiosity for being a fan, I wasn't expecting this much info over the last two weeks or so. But, now that I am, I want to gain my sources respect and so I didn't want divulge their identity or even reveal their gender. I hope this post has gained their trust, and know that their ID's are safe and sound with me. T1 Rumors NX SDK's are out there right now and my sources can confirm dev's have them, so don't worry too much about when you hear stuff like nobody has a dev kit yet. The NX is easy to port too. This is big because Nintendo consoles have usually been hard to develop or and only mastered by Nintendo's internal teams. Apparently, some dev's are having no trouble porting current gen games over. It's a quick process and dev's seem to be happy about it. The NX architecture is under NDA but is highly speculated to be x86. I disagreed with them on this but they made some excellent points about how porting from ARM to x86 (handheld to console) and x86 to x86 (current PS4 and XB1 games to NX) is very easy, while it's a bit more tricky to go from x86 to ARM (console to handheld). It certainly matches what the reddit leaker posted. Based off my high school programming skills and some research, it seems like x86 to ARM does require more work, x86 is 64-bit and ARM is 32-bit. But any decent compiler supports 64-bit math on ARM. The dev's mainly recompile the code into ARM, and then the integer values get changed, and fix any errors that come up, recompile again, see if it works, rinse and repeat. It's not as important or inefficient as people think, especially for larger devs. Besides, ARM is heavily supported and the more worked on architecture. So don't get too focused on if it's x86 or ARM. In the end, as long as it's not shitty PowerPC (Nintendo, please, no) it'll be fine. It won't be the reason Nintendo won't get third party ports, if anything, NX sales will. One thing that contradicts x86, and this is an indirect source, but a coder who works specifically for Nintendo laughed off GAF's focus on x86 and how we know nothing. Please don’t go looking for them, DetectiveGAF, let them keep their job. So, that, combined with ARM likely being in the handheld, makes me believe the NX will use ARM. But like I said, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. Nobody knows anything about the handheld. At least, not any of my sources or their sources. Not even sure if NX refers to the handheld as well or if that has a different codename. It's speculated that it will still get some exclusive games, but won't get many console games downported (referring to the shared games library) while the console could theoretically play them all (maybe lending support to x86 and ARM inside the NX, having the handheld guts inside, but that sounds very expensive and I doubt it). The console seems to be the main focus of Nintendo right now and the New 3DS, along with the 2016 lineup of 3DS, has afforded them that luxury. I hope you enjoy this post and it provides lots of healthy discussion. I told you it wasn't major news, but you got hyped anyways. It's my first time doing this and it was fun, and sorry if it took awhile but verification and clarity were important to me. Remember, grain of salt. Come at me, Nintendo. Edited April 13, 2016 by Hero-of-Time
Mr_Master_X2 Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 On lanuch games; wouldn't surprise me if there's a Mario in there. You gotta believe they're at least working on a 3D World 2. Or I suppose it could be Land 2 and for 3DS. I'd say they're working on both a Wii U and 3DS Mario, and that the Wii U one likely got moved to NX a while back. PS; WTF did we never get a Mario (U)niverse for Wii U...? It's like so obvious...wouldn't surprise me if we find out years from now they were working on one and it became a different Mario game.
Kounan Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 I've read what the GAF poster said and if it's true I hope that the Splatoon port has some new levels in single player campaing I would buy it again (when I say some I mean at least 50% more). Now a question, if it's cross play, how does it work because of different graphics? Who is seeing what? What is with additional features like voice chat, invitations? I am just happy Zelda is going to be a launch title so I know I can get the NX as soon as possible, as I don't really care for Smash and Mario Maker.
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