Wii Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Capcom hands down for all the franchises. Years ago Capcom were closer to Nintendo's level of expertise and I'd have taken a 50/50 collaboration. Fast forward to today and I'd only want Nintendo developing Capcom's franchises and not the other way around. They've so many greats, Monster Hunter, Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Megaman, etc.
david.dakota Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 This was just on GAF, from NikkeiNintendo may actually start buying other developers. Aww yeah. And about time too. They've sat for a decade with their thumbs in their asses watching every promising developer be snapped up by Sony. In that time they made one significant acquisition: Monolith. They may be incredible but their firmly rooted in RPG which is a niche market at the moment. They allowed Dyack to squander Silicon Knights. Each and every one of their franchises is still stuck in the technical limitations of the 1980s. FFS Mario still doesn't wear denim dungarees. They need a Google-style rampage in acquisitions.
Serebii Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 And about time too. They've sat for a decade with their thumbs in their asses watching every promising developer be snapped up by Sony. In that time they made one significant acquisition: Monolith. They may be incredible but their firmly rooted in RPG which is a niche market at the moment. They allowed Dyack to squander Silicon Knights. Each and every one of their franchises is still stuck in the technical limitations of the 1980s. FFS Mario still doesn't wear denim dungarees. They need a Google-style rampage in acquisitions. I agree with an extent, but why does Mario have to be hyper realistic and have denim dungarees? Besides: It's more subdued in current times, but definitely there
M_rock Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Making a character hyper realistic or not is a matter of choosing a graphical style. It has nothing to do with technical limitations. Link in the wind waker doesn't wear super realistic armor and clothing, and we all know how pretty that game is
Wii Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 I agree with an extent, but why does Mario have to be hyper realistic and have denim dungarees? Besides: It's more subdued in current times, but definitely there We know "realistic" denim is in Smash Bros. I think he means the mainline 2D and 3D games. I think in some games it's a deliberate choice. It would jar too much against the cartoony/colourful worlds. You can get away with it in Smash Bros. as it's a mixture of different characters and environments. It comes down to aesthetics, his Smash look fits better as is in the game, whereas if he looked like 3D World Mario, he wouldn't be as kind of bad ass or sit right if you know what I mean. One genre is rated Teen and the other is rated E. I'm going to stop, I'm probably not explaining it well.
Serebii Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 We know "realistic" denim is in Smash Bros. I think he means the mainline 2D and 3D games. I think in some games it's a deliberate choice. It would jar too much against the cartoony/colourful worlds. You can get away with it in Smash Bros. as it's a mixture of different characters and environments. It comes down to aesthetics, his Smash look fits better as is in the game, whereas if he looked like 3D World Mario, he wouldn't be as kind of bad ass or sit right if you know what I mean. One genre is rated Teen and the other is rated E. I'm going to stop, I'm probably not explaining it well. It's in 3D World too, again subdued
ReZourceman Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 I wouldn't say those seam-lines are indicative of denim in that example. #SillyReply
Retro_Link Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Have to say though I hated those denim jeans in Brawl. It was one of many things I disliked the game for compared to Melee... the move towards grittier character designs than bright and vibrant cartoony ones.
Blade Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Nintendo are damned of their characters look cartonny and it seems equally damned if they make them look a little more realistic.
Retro_Link Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Nintendo are damned of their characters look cartonny and it seems equally damned if they make them look a little more realistic.That's not really true at all though. It's just sometimes something can feel out of place and unnecessary, or not in keeping with the character or their world. Mario coming home in a pair of designer Levi dungarees for example :p
Wii Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Imagine Mario looked like that minus Donatello. Would people like a gritty Mario like that? Not in a million years it would happen of course.
Serebii Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Imagine Mario looked like that minus Donatello. Would people like a gritty Mario like that? Not in a million years it would happen of course. That would be the day I quit gaming.
Hero-of-Time Posted February 1, 2014 Author Posted February 1, 2014 Imagine Mario looked like that minus Donatello. Would people like a gritty Mario like that? Not in a million years it would happen of course. I'm all in favour of Peach looking like that.
Retro_Link Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Imagine Mario looked like that minus Donatello. Would people like a gritty Mario like that? Not in a million years it would happen of course. I'm all in favour of Peach looking like that. If that's what Peach looks like, heaven knows about that slut Daisy!... God help Luigi's, is all I can say :p Audio Audio Audio Edited February 1, 2014 by Retro_Link
Jamba Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 If that's what Peach looks like, heaven knows about that slut Daisy!... You leave Daisy alone!
Retro_Link Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 You leave Daisy alone!... said Peach when she walked in on Luigi.
Josh64 Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Saw this on Twitter today: Interesting fact - In the time the WiiU has been out, the Dreamcast had already sold 3 million more units. (WiiU has 5.4, DC had 8.3)
liger05 Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Saw this on Twitter today: Interesting fact - In the time the WiiU has been out, the Dreamcast had already sold 3 million more units. (WiiU has 5.4, DC had 8.3) Puts things really into perspective and just how much of of a turnaround the Wii U needs. The DC couldnt do it and I dont think the Wii U can. Also just for reference Top ten selling third-party Dreamcast games according to NPD: 1) Soul Calibur (Namco) - >570K 2) Ready 2 Rumble Boxing - >465K 3) Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 (Activision) - >350K 4) Resident Evil: Code Veronica (Capcom) - >350K 5) Tony Hawk Pro Skater (Crave) - >335K 6) Tomb Raider: Revelation (Eidos) - >300K 7) NFL Blitz 2000 (Midway) - >230K 8) WWE Royal Rumble (THQ) - >225K 9) Marvel Vs. Capcom (Capcom) - >210K 10) Legacy Kain: Soul Reaver (Eidos) - >205K Quite the difference in how Third Party games sold on two poor selling platforms. Third party games sold well on the DC and it was silly that EA didnt support the platform as the DC audience bought third party games.
Happenstance Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Plus the DC had Shenmue 1+2 and still managed to fail. The Wii U is doomed!
Hero-of-Time Posted February 1, 2014 Author Posted February 1, 2014 March 2012 Not everyone is excited about Nintendo’s new Wii U console. Noted game analyst Michael Pachter said, during his latest Pach Attack show, that Nintendo is late to the scene with the new console, as the Wii U is only marginally more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Pachter said: “I think that if in fact it’s a lot like an Xbox 360 in terms of graphics, frame rate and control scheme, then it’s probably not going to sell well unless it’s priced a lot cheaper, and I don’t think they’re launching the console at $150.” Later, Pachter compared the Wii U to SEGA’s failed Dreamcast console, which was also quite late to the market and never managed to find a core audience. “So, yeah I think they are about to Dreamcast themselves. I don’t think the Wii U is going to be as popular as probably Nintendo thinks it’s going to be. Question is, what does Nintendo do next, and I don’t know the answer yet. Let’s see how the Wii U sells, and I’m not going to predict this demise until I know pricing and features.” Predicting the Wii U as the next Dreamcast is quite a stretch — the Wii brand is very powerful and Nintendo has a massive software and IP library to take advantage of. However, we do agree with Patcher on one thing: pricing will matter greatly when the Wii U is released. Last week we reported that the Wii U will be priced at $299, and that seems to be the limit of how high Nintendo can go, price wise. To better compete with the Xbox 360 and PS3, price would probably have to be around $250, perhaps even under $200. We’ll see when Nintendo announces more Wii U details, including pricing and launch dates, at E3.
Retro_Link Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Speaking of Pachter's thoughts on Nintendo: http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/icm0x2/pach-attack--what-is-nintendo-going-to-do-
Grazza Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Saw this on Twitter today: Interesting fact - In the time the WiiU has been out, the Dreamcast had already sold 3 million more units. (WiiU has 5.4, DC had 8.3) That is staggering, actually. Does anyone know how the GameCube compared to both of them at this point in time?
liger05 Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) That is staggering, actually. Does anyone know how the GameCube compared to both of them at this point in time? From Oct 01 - Sept 02 the GC was at 6.68 mil. Not sure DC was that high after just over a year. That seems too much as it did 10 mil LTD. Edited February 2, 2014 by liger05
Dcubed Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 From Oct 01 - Sept 02 the GC was at 6.68 mil. Not sure DC was that high after just over a year. That seems too much as it did 10 mil LTD. I bet that they're counting from a year after the US launch (which would actually make it two years being measured since it came out in Japan a whole year before it did in the west)
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