Jimbob Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Don't feel like backtracking... nobody here is gonna buy it, right? Probably not, just need to see if Sony do it right. If Sony get it correct, the probably will change to definitely.
are1981 Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 If I want to play multiplatform games, and can accept enforced online DRM, I'll just play on my PC. Xbox None For Me. If I buy a console other than Nintendo's, I will because it makes gaming on my TV more convenient. Enforced online and game 'rentals' are not what I consider convenience.
Oxigen_Waste Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I'm going PC-only for the next few years. I'll jump on board the console train on the later part of the gen. My high end PC is more than enough to keep me very, very busy, especially now with all the games running a 360 gamepad option, and considering my PC is hooked up to my living room tv, it'll be the same for a long while. :P Plus I have a butload of Wii games I never finished because of the prospect of playing them on Dolphin and which will now look fucking amazing. =D Ahah! Glorious time to be a PC gamer. ^^
khilafah Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 they should have announced a SKU without kinect.. I got no idea how MS are gonna turn this around after the PS4 reveal..
Charlie Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 £429? Fuck that. Looks like for the first time since I had a SNES I won't be buying a games console. Only games I want to play are COD and Halo. COD will be out for the 360 this year anyway.
Zechs Merquise Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I thought that the MS conference was a strong showing. Arguably stronger than Sony's (which was a strong showing also) in terms of exclusive software. However that price is monstrous. All in, a day one purchase would likely set you back around £550 with a game and XBOX Live Gold account. I've always said that the two biggest factors in why consoles rise and fall are price and advertising. With a price like that, and taking into account the bombs Sony dropped, I can't see this selling well at all.
Shorty Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Is anybody here getting an Xbox One now? I'd be really interested to hear why... I'll miss my gamerscore :p
bryanee Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Is anybody here getting an Xbox One now? I'd be really interested to hear why... I'll miss my gamerscore :p If they backtrack on the used games bollocks and the 24hr online check up and knock 100 quid off of the price, I'll get one if just for Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall.
Zechs Merquise Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 If they backtrack on the used games bollocks and the 24hr online check up and knock 100 quid off of the price, I'll get one if just for Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall. Well, I should imagine there will be MS reps running around the conference trying to put out those fires for the next few days. I do however feel that a lot of this nonsense was dreamed up by EA and they have been trying to persuade one manufacturer to lead the way on it. Nintendo obviously rejected it, but MS clearly bought into this shite and they are ultimately the ones who will pay dearly if their console sinks like a rock because of it. EA however will slither off and just pump out their yearly tripe elsewhere and survive the storm.
Agent Gibbs Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 If they backtrack on the used games bollocks and the 24hr online check up and knock 100 quid off of the price, I'll get one if just for Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall. thats got to be the only way anyone would buy one now! i just can't see MS's Xbox surviving this gen, and having sale in the first few months that make the WiiU look like a record breaking smash
Daft Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Xbox One headed to Asia in 2014 but not to Japan I don't know if this is a good idea or an abysmal one. Going on Microsoft's form recently, I'll go with the latter.
Cube Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 The 360 never sold well in Japan - even with a few exclusive games that they got. Although it's strange that Japan aren't getting any new consoles this year.
Clownferret Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 i really think xbox1 is going to tank. It will obviously shift units in the first few weeks, but with costs, DRM, Gold etc PS4 has really blown it out of the water.
Shorty Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I wonder how many people will buy it not knowing about the trading/selling restrictions, only to find out a few months into their ownership....
Jimbob Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Concerning the Xbox One and myself, unless the used game garbage changes and the consistent 24 hour surveilance on Kinect stops (as in, you can remove Kinect at will) and the DRM changes on connecting to the Internet once every 24 hours and the price is reduced (unlikely at the moment) then i'm not in the purchasing market. Which will mean not renewing Xbox Live this year, i mean why should i give my hard earned money to Micro$oft from November. I know i'm keeping the 360, but will keep it on Silver whilst i invest on the PS4. Makes me laugh reading comments on Gamespot, Xbox UK with players. Do people not realise the DRM is shafting the consumer up the jacksie?
Cube Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 It will be very interesting to see how retailers will deal with the Xbox One. Retails chains like GAME and HMV: The possibility that any Xbox One game could be blocked for trade-in, even if they're an approved retailer, is certainly not ideal. Not to mention angry customers when they're refused a trade-in. It makes no sense for them to push Xbox One sales. They'll stock it, but I suspect the PS4 will be front and centre. Amazon: As well as the Amazon trade-in system, Microsoft have pretty much blocked all games from the Amazon Marketplace. Not to mention Amazon Prime/Lovefilm rentals. I think we'll start seeing the PS4 appearing as a "recommended product" for all Xbox One products and not the other way round. eBay: eBay still has advertising power. They put the Wii U on the front page the day Microsoft announced the restrictions which completely blocks sales on eBay. I can see the PS4 being included in many eBay adverts and on the homepage. Independent Game stores: Microsoft are trying to kill them. They probably have no chance getting "approved" and I can see many not selling the Xbox One or it's games. Apart from retailers who don't deal in used games in any way - so supermarkets (except Tesco), online shops like ShopTo - I don't see why any of them would want to support the Xbox One. Most will probably stock it, but I think they'll be pushing for PS4 sales.
Agent Gibbs Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Makes me laugh reading comments on Gamespot, Xbox UK with players. Do people not realise the DRM is shafting the consumer up the jacksie? Good lord i thought you were exaggerating and you aren't! saying stuff like MS have all the games, bullshit about DRM, sony only impressed by using flashy tactics and diversionary tactics...... are they watching E3 in opposite land?
Zechs Merquise Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Good lord i thought you were exaggerating and you aren't!saying stuff like MS have all the games, bullshit about DRM, sony only impressed by using flashy tactics and diversionary tactics...... are they watching E3 in opposite land? Let's not get crazy. Microsoft did show a lot of good games and arguably did have a better first and third party line-up with plenty of quality exclusives. What has killed them is their anti-consumer stance and their awful pricing. Had the XBO been the same price as the PS4 and not had the anti-used games policy or the 24 hour check in, it would have been an interesting fight between them. Whilst I appreciate some people may prefer Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Drive Club and Killzone, a lot of others would prefer Titanfall, Dead Rising, Halo and Forza. Makes me think of the Sega Saturn. What are Nintendo and MS smoking in regards to their prices as well? MS are bundling Kinect, Sony clearly dropped the idea of bundling their camera. Nintendo don't like to make a loss on hardware. Sony's business model has always been to use hardware as a loss leader and recoup that on software sales. Just like back in 1995 when Sega couldn't afford to sell their console at a loss.
m_fergy Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Apart from retailers who don't deal in used games in any way - so supermarkets (except Tesco), online shops like ShopTo - I don't see why any of them would want to support the Xbox One. Most will probably stock it, but I think they'll be pushing for PS4 sales. Which publishers have came out and said they are blocking or putting some sort of restriction on used games ?
Cube Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 Which publishers have came out and said they are blocking or putting some sort of restriction on used games ? None so far - According to EA, the article the other day was the first they heard about the system so they haven't had time to decide (probably a lie). Still, surely the option is in there because someone plans on using it?
m_fergy Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 None so far - According to EA, the article the other day was the first they heard about the system so they haven't had time to decide (probably a lie). Still, surely the option is in there because someone plans on using it? Yeah the option is there because console change. The 360 from launch till now is totally different. So if no publishers put a restriction on games then its the same as PS4. (Apart from the 24 hour check) All this rant and rave about used games is stupid when no publisher has said anything
Cube Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 So if no publishers put a restriction on games then its the same as PS4. (Apart from the 24 hour check) If no publisher blocks trading games, you still have the following problems: - No lending a game to a friend. - You can only trade in at selected retailers. - No private selling (Amazon Marketplace/eBay). - No game will work if you're disconnected for over 24 hours.
Agent Gibbs Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 EDIT: beat by @Cube like a pimp beats his ho @Zechs, no they had some good games but Halo was the only exclusive i'd actually want that will stay exclusive, titanfall is already confirmed for PC (and supposedly a PS4 version is already in development) As for dead rising....i can see that going multiplatform too. for me they had no must have exclusive games at all, just lots of third party games that are multiplatform or timed exclusives
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