david.dakota Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 The BBC is reporting that troops in Afghanistan have been issued a new weapon - a heat ray gun. The catchilly named Active Denial System (ADS) is designed to minimise death in warzones by administering targets with a non-lethal, but "intollerable heat sensation" to the depth of no more than the equivelent of three sheets of paper in humun skin. The beam will travel up to 500 meters. The devise has been tested over 11,000 times on 700 seperate people. However, reports (via Engadget are that the weapon has been recalled to the US without being used operationally used. Whats war without death, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Dare Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 What is good in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debug Mode Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 If there's no death in a war, how will they deal with those who witness the oil plundering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konfucius Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 So they use microwaves? I wonder if this will cause skin cancer. I guess the next thing we will see are clothes that shield against these rays - oh Faraday, you and your cage. It doesn't seem like a peaceful invention to me. Sounds more like: we can shoot the enemy without them shooting back. Should be convenient to cook food on the battlefield in any case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Should be convenient to cook food on the battlefield in any case And then we find out, the food causes cancer Anyway, I'm more worried about the psychological damage. Unbearable pain doesn't sound like it helps matters. I'm still waiting for proper taser guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines. War, and its consumption of life has become a well oiled machine. War has changed. ID tag soldiers carry ID tag weapons, use ID tag gear. Nano machines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control. Everything's monitored, and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterence has become the age of control. The all new means of the burning catastrophy in weapons of mass destruction, and he who controls the battlefield controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war becomes routine. It needed to be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Aww, I thought this thread was about remote controlled robots in the battlefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairdriver Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 It makes so much sense, why bother killing people when you can just force them to run away or surrender? They just need to invent a super-powered magnet that can attract all metal in its firing-line; you can't shoot a gun when its flung from your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolness Bears Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 wait wait wait...They can turn up the intensity yes? set the heaters to stun etc. because they all look like they are being lightly tickled by an invisible man, it shouldn't be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 It makes so much sense, why bother killing people when you can just force them to run away or surrender? Exactly, as far as I know, war is mostly a territorial conflict (as in, we want that thing over there). Not a competition to see who can accomplish the biggest killing streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 It looks like it would be more usefully in protests. I'm assuming you can turn it up enough that your enemies actually, you know, fall down and can't shoot you anymore. I wonder how well it'll work on insurgents who are drugged up though, some of them are drugged to the point that they can't really feel pain, so from the sound of things, this would be useless against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwii Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Surely if they are that drugged up they cant bloody shoot straight and are easy kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I advise you to read a book called "House to House". Its even available on iBooks, so you could conveniently buy it with that iPod you were complaining about a while back. You'll probably learn a lot from it. Short answer: not all drugs do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Poor KD ratio. n00bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rummy Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 It works in theory, but not in practice. War never does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Why not just use chemical warfare? ...I guess there's more paperwork involved. Hell, why not use a mirror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Is this to use against masses of poor people that throw stones at troops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Interesting idea. As long as this has no side-effects it could come in handy. Imagine surrounding an entire town with these heat ray guns until they surrendered! However, I think that officers and other people in war would see death as much more inexpensive and just easier than this and so I'm not sure if this will catch on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwii Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I advise you to read a book called "House to House". Its even available on iBooks, so you could conveniently buy it with that iPod you were complaining about a while back. You'll probably learn a lot from it. Short answer: not all drugs do that. But surely opium is the only drug substance the Taliban have... Does that have your mentioned effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 You do realize that its not just the Taliban that is being fought right now. The drug use I'm talking about, from what I understand is actually more common in Iraq (which is what the book I suggested is about). The drugs they use are either smuggled in, or are stollen from foreign soldiers. For instance, in Fallujah (Iraq), the American soldiers and marines who took the city found US Military Morphine supplies in some of the houses. Morphine can hinder physical performance, but it did give the insurgents the desired effects, and they still were able to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 plenty of non-lethal weapons (including this ADS). Article made two years ago. The idea is that there are potential side-effects, but the target won't have to endure prolongued exposure because it'll hurt too much to just stand there. Also, Bizarre ran a feature on non-lethal weapons as a form of riot-control what must've been 3 or 4 years ago. Included was a weapon that was dubbed something like the 'gay ray' -- a chemical that triggered large feelings of brotherly love, or something. I'll dig around for the issue tomorrow/thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwii Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 You do realize that its not just the Taliban that is being fought right now. The drug use I'm talking about, from what I understand is actually more common in Iraq (which is what the book I suggested is about). The drugs they use are either smuggled in, or are stollen from foreign soldiers. For instance, in Fallujah (Iraq), the American soldiers and marines who took the city found US Military Morphine supplies in some of the houses. Morphine can hinder physical performance, but it did give the insurgents the desired effects, and they still were able to fight. Oh I see, however the hindering of physical performance support my original point slightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairdriver Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Included was a weapon that was dubbed something like the 'gay ray' -- a chemical that triggered large feelings of brotherly love, or something. I'll dig around for the issue tomorrow/thursday. Ironically, the most fearsome army in the classical world was one which all the soldiers were lovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Oh I see, however the hindering of physical performance support my original point slightly Not really, because they can still shoot, and many of them are not easy kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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