Ramar Posted February 8, 2010 Posted February 8, 2010 I just caught the episodes, and I really can't add anything to the discussion. I'm just hoping they wrap up the show well, because I was expecting answers but the plot just thickened.
Gizmo Posted February 8, 2010 Posted February 8, 2010 Wow. Apparently the John Lennon guy is actually called Lennon. I can't decide if that is awesome or terrible. I think it's both.
Dante Posted February 8, 2010 Author Posted February 8, 2010 Well his name is Lennon and temple maser is called Dogen. Edit: WTH!
Oxigen_Waste Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Lol :P RE: alternate timeline stuff. If the island blew up in '77 (or whenever) then surely some other things would never have happened, like that mystic trying to convince Claire to go to LA, thus she never would've gotten on the flight? Hurley's numbers are now 'lucky', but his reasons for going to Oz are now not clear. In any case, the direction they've gone obviously gives us a lot to talk/think about, and that's what the show's about really. The whole Jacob/Abel (whatever his name is) side of things is going to be the answer-holding arc, hopefully telling us more about the island and generally giving us some reasons behind much of teh first season. I STILL want to know why the smokemonster didn't hurt Mr Ekko in teh jungle that time, and if it was him who possessed jack's dad which led them to the caves, and why. Eko's character was supposed to stay, but the actor asked to be written out (the asshole, his character was fantastic), so I think Esau/Abel/Smokie didn't kill him purely because he "understood" the island and how special it really is (much like Locke). They could've given him a better send off, though... I mean, he had such a shitty death.
dan-likes-trees Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Eko's character was supposed to stay, but the actor asked to be written out (the asshole, his character was fantastic), so I think Esau/Abel/Smokie didn't kill him purely because he "understood" the island and how special it really is (much like Locke). They could've given him a better send off, though... I mean, he had such a shitty death. This is true. Which baffles me - surely working on Lost is one of the most sought out acting jobs ever... on location Hawaii, probably pretty nice pay, high profile show. Madness. I actually thought he was turning into a bit of a dull character anyway tbh - he started off fantastic but then all the religious shit was incredibly boring...
Wesley Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 I thought his religious twist was fantastic. Not many other characters have that. Locke is the only other character who has the faith thing going on - but it's just generalised.
jayseven Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Eko had some driving incident didn't he? The cast/crew didn't get on with him so I see it more as he was fired than that he wanted out. And his character 'knowing the island' doesn't really explain much. That infers that Eko's desire to build a church is what smokeman wanted? It's important to remember with Locke that pretty much all of last season he wasn't himself. Jacob asked Ben to make sure all of the O6 returned to the island, so why did Ben kill Locke? Doing so only gave smokeman the vessel he needed, and smokeman inferred with his line ~"after all these years my efforts come to fruition" (paraphrase from last ep of the last season) that it was him that made Ben kill Locke... I'm not really going anywhere with this, I still think that it'll be after the show ends and I watch it all the seasons from the beginning again, with my wiki-guide besides me, that I'll get my head around most of it. Locke in the alternate reality should be interesting, with this in mind.
Oxigen_Waste Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Eko had some driving incident didn't he? The cast/crew didn't get on with him so I see it more as he was fired than that he wanted out. And his character 'knowing the island' doesn't really explain much. That infers that Eko's desire to build a church is what smokeman wanted? He wasn't fired at all, he was a fan favorite, and Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje is a terrific actor (especially on Oz) who just didn't get along with Hawaii, and pretty much asked to be writen out. If you see the making of DVD extras, he actually got along very well with the rest of the cast (or at least made it seem like it). His character "understanding" the island explains the fact that Smokie would spare him. It doesn't mean that Eko was acting on Smokie's behalf, he had his own motivations... it just means that Smokie doesn't mind sharing the island with those who, in his opinion, are worthy. Like some of the natives/others.
Dante Posted February 10, 2010 Author Posted February 10, 2010 I have watched the episode and wasnt very good in some parts. Sayid, Claire and the French team have the sickness?
Oxigen_Waste Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I have watched the episode and wasnt very good in some parts. Sayid, Claire and the French team have the sickness? How the hell do you see them so soon? O.o PM me! Meh, nothing too good. So Sayid is now Esau's bitch and Claire's back and looks like shit. That sums up the episode. Nice to see Ethan.
darksnowman Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Well his name is Lennon and temple maser is called Dogen. Edit: WTH! Dogen, really? Gotta be another nod to Stephen King and the Dark Tower. Love it!
SPAMBOT4000 Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Oh my god this was probably the most boring episode of television I've watched in a while. ZzzzZzzzZzzz... I thought the pace was going to be picked up now we're reaching the end? Seems not.
dan-likes-trees Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Oh my god this was probably the most boring episode of television I've watched in a while. ZzzzZzzzZzzz...I thought the pace was going to be picked up now we're reaching the end? Seems not. To be fair, it's not like it's even possible to have a Kate-centric episode that isn't totally shit. I'm hoping they're just planning on getting the crap out of the way in time for the last ten or so. Still, some interesting enough bits and bobs in there. I have watched the episode and wasnt very good in some parts. Sayid, Claire and the French team have the sickness? Urgh, read inbetween the lines.. They think Sayid has, like Locke, been possessed or 'caught' by Jacobs villan friend. Possibly 'the sickness' is this concept, if that's what you meant
Chuck Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I have watched the episode and wasnt very good in some parts. Sayid, Claire and the French team have the sickness? So the dude that was escorting Kate and Jin is Lacombe?
flameboy Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 oh dear sounds like i'll be in for a boring night come friday! Just cos you guys don't seem to impressed. Anyone else listen to the official Lost podcast, very interesting in the first episode they were keen to stress that people shouldn't call the flashsideways an alternate timeline..just thought would say that as people myself included use it.
Dante Posted February 10, 2010 Author Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) What are you on about Chuck? To be fair, it's not like it's even possible to have a Kate-centric episode that isn't totally shit. I'm hoping they're just planning on getting the crap out of the way in time for the last ten or so. Still, some interesting enough bits and bobs in there. Urgh, read inbetween the lines.. They think Sayid has, like Locke, been possessed or 'caught' by Jacobs villan friend. Possibly 'the sickness' is this concept, if that's what you meant doesn't need to possess Locke body but he does need to have army that he has control over with the sickness that some how reacts to people that died. Next week preview. Edited February 11, 2010 by Dante
dan-likes-trees Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) Firstly, haha when I saw that Tweet pre-episode I knew I was in for a filler ep. [/center] doesn't need to possess Locke body but he does need to have army that he has control over with the sickness that some how reacts to people that died. Next week preview. Firstly, haha when I saw that Tweet pre-episode I knew I was in for a filler ep. Fair point about not possessing Locke but I don't think it's out of the question. Plus, he's only shapeshifted to people who are actually dead. Aand (this ain't bad) I get the impression this baddie can't do any physical damage on Jacob or whoever when he's in shapeshifted form (thus explaining why he had to convince Ben to kill J) but now that he's physically taken on the body of Sayid that might change. Erruuhh dunno. Anyway, you could be right but I hope not - brainwashing an army of the dead is surely the most wanky way to conclude such a great show. Also, if john lennon and wassisname so want to kill Sayid, why not just shoot him and be done with it? Lhame. Edited February 10, 2010 by dan-likes-trees Automerged Doublepost
Dante Posted February 11, 2010 Author Posted February 11, 2010 might be important tie to Sayid. XZs8XZsKh3U
Dante Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 CarltonCuse 23 minutes ago Don't miss tonight's episode. A number of things are illuminated. ...lead to more questions but it was great episode.
killthenet Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I don't think we learned too much in that episode. The numbers were shoehorned in, all we really got to know was that Jacob was a nut who was worried about the future. There were at least 295 names written on those walls, it reads to me that Jacob was a desperate man wanting to let go of the island. Again, this apparent 'revelation' brings up another set of questions that will likely be answered with more questions. The episode was enjoyable though, I particularly liked seeing Locke and Helen back together again, the romance portions of Lost tend to be strong, if at times saccharine, so it was nice to see them returning to this one. It did make me think though, there isn't a strong, centre stage romance in the show anymore which could be detrimental to the finale if the show continues as it is. But I'm expecting Jack and Kate to rekindle their fire around the middle of the season to add more tension to the final hours.
dan-likes-trees Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 CarltonCuseit was great episode. Was it really though? Seemed like a bit of a for-wendy episode, recapping and explaining things we more or less knew. Or vaguely expanding upon them. Also, I'm getting bored of the flashforwards fast. All the coincidences - if they really are just coincidences then does anyone really care anyway? And it would be silly if they were all just coincidences as well. I did enjoy Ben's acting as the teacher though, lolrific Anyway, I'm getting slightly worried that Lost will indeed manage to awnser all our questions, but they won't actually be very interesting answers. Owell, we'll see. I don't think we learned too much in that episode. The numbers were shoehorned in, all we really got to know was that Jacob was a nut who was worried about the future. There were at least 295 names written on those walls, it reads to me that Jacob was a desperate man wanting to let go of the island. Again, this apparent 'revelation' brings up another set of questions that will likely be answered with more questions. The episode was enjoyable though, I particularly liked seeing Locke and Helen back together again, the romance portions of Lost tend to be strong, if at times saccharine, so it was nice to see them returning to this one. It did make me think though, there isn't a strong, centre stage romance in the show anymore which could be detrimental to the finale if the show continues as it is. But I'm expecting Jack and Kate to rekindle their fire around the middle of the season to add more tension to the final hours. No central romance? Sun and Jin for the win (rhyme). You're probably right about Kate and Jack getting together again. Though again, I couldn't care less... never watched Lost for the romance That was abit of a rantish post. Wasn't that bad an ep. EDIT: Ouch, fucked up the spoilers tag at first, fixed, only a few seconds, hope noone saw
flameboy Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I'm gonna miss the next 2 fridays...have to remember to sky + and hope my dad is taping over crap...unless someone wants to *help* me out?!
FalcoLombardi Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Last episode was great. Finally, the numbers are revealed. The young kid telling MIB that he can't kill "him". I think he's referring to Sawyer. Why? His name was on the wall. And this is why the monster was able to kill Eko. His name wasn't on the wall.
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