pedrocasilva Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Right, so this thread might get locked or whatever mods decide to make with it later on... but I felt I should inform about it since it seems like it's not asking for something impossible (a change from most petitions) so following this: - Matt called Julian Eggebrecht today. They would love to work on Wii and if the opportunity would arise they would do it in a heartbeat (maybe Pilotwings?). Willing to make a new Rogue Squadron game. Could maybe update the Rogue Squadron games from Gamecube, or preferably make a new Rogue Squadron game. Matt wants fans to make a petition and IGN would support it. Source: http://wii.ign.com/articles/818/818845p1.html This came: -> http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?rqf5dev Sign it, if you will.
theguyfromspark Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 As long as they don't produce a game as bad a lair appears to be, the more the merrier!
Mikey Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 I hope they don't put out a Star Wars game if they make one.
Goron_3 Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 I signed the petition, mainly because they got a lot out of the poor lil cube. DO IT!
Konfucius Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Wasn't factor5 the one complaining about Wii's hardware and praising the PS3? Fascinating how sales figures change minds... It should be great to have devs like them on board though. Judging by what they squeezed out of the GC we should see some really impressive things from them. Hopefully with a control system to make them playable. But given Wii's sales figures, a predestination for a lightsaber game and the fact that factor5 has experience with Nintendo plattforms I think that we could very well get another Star Wars game made by them.
Dilli Gee Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I wouldn't get your hopes up. Sony has their hands around Factor 5 pretty tight.
pedrocasilva Posted September 10, 2007 Author Posted September 10, 2007 Wasn't factor5 the one complaining about Wii's hardware and praising the PS3? Fascinating how sales figures change minds... Indeed, Still, I think they're needed to take the excuses out of some third parties out there, these guys really push their machines and have done it with the cube so... They would be very welcome in my point of view, despite all that's happened in the past. I also don't think of them as bad developers (after Lair) just that they got too ambitious, just like with Rogue Squadron 3, just leave the ground alone (ground missions on RS3 and ground combat in Lair) and I think they're really capable.
IMJ Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Indeed, it IS funny how Factor 5 got their attitude/opinion changed about Wii. Maybe it's the sales figures, maybe it's the 'failure' of Lair, maybe it's the limited motion sensing capabilities of PS3, i donno. Factor 5 has always been a respected developer, the managed to churn out amazing graphics out of the consoles. Roque Squadron 2 is still one of the best looking titles to date on Cube and that was a launch title. They do have their hands on two more PS3 titles if I'm not mistaken (they signed a three-game deal with Sony), but that doesnt mean they've abandoned the Nintendo ship. I'd love to see what they can do on Wii. Just don't make it another Star Wars title. After so many titles on N64 and Cube, I think they should move on for now.
Cube Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Wasn't factor5 the one complaining about Wii's hardware and praising the PS3? Actually, they they said that the Wii was more powerful than most people think - they sad it was that all the developers were just lazy towards Wii graphics. So, it's about time to see what they can do with it. I want another Rogue Squadron.
Strange Cookie Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Funny indeed. Isn't this a case of history repeating itself? Wasn't Julian Eggebrecht very fond of Nintendo in the Rogue Leader-days, then made the dreadful Rebel Strike (that Degobah-level still gives me nightmares...) and blamed Nintendo for the bad reviews their game got, instead of looking in the mirror? All of the sudden, they would develop exclusively for the PS3. Now they make Lair, which get mediocre reviews, and once again it's not their fault the game plays bad, is full of bugs and and has a horrible lock-on system and framerate, but it's the reviewers fault. They even made a reviewers guide, for crying out loud! *sigh* Digital Unrest
Owen Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Well Lair is a great game and the critics are wrong. So in my opinion, i think it would be cool if Factor 5 brought Lair to the Wii, actually. and no, i'm not joking. Sometimes having your own opinion and not always listening to these reviews on IGN etc.. is a good idea.
Cube Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Isn't this a case of history repeating itself? Wasn't Julian Eggebrecht very fond of Nintendo in the Rogue Leader-days, then made the dreadful Rebel Strike (that Degobah-level still gives me nightmares...) and blamed Nintendo for the bad reviews their game got The game got mostly good reviews. And it was ace - the on foot sections were hardly bad. They were fun, just not as sun as the flying sections.
The-chosen-one Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 i signed the petition too and hope they make another roque sqoudron and that they push the wii to its limits like they did with the cube
pedrocasilva Posted September 10, 2007 Author Posted September 10, 2007 Well Lair is a great game and the critics are wrong. So in my opinion, i think it would be cool if Factor 5 brought Lair to the Wii, actually. and no, i'm not joking. Sometimes having your own opinion and not always listening to these reviews on IGN etc.. is a good idea. That, I believe they couldn't... They pitched the idea to sony that financed and published it; no way sony didn't retain rights for it.
Zechs Merquise Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 As long as they don't produce a game as bad a lair appears to be, the more the merrier! lololol so true. Wasn't factor5 the one complaining about Wii's hardware and praising the PS3? Fascinating how sales figures change minds... They were, but now their flag ship game for it is a stinker and the PS3 is selling rather poorly they've obviously realised how much money a great Rogue Squadron game would have made on the Wii!
Slaggis Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 They were, but now their flag ship game for it is a stinker and the PS3 is selling rather poorly they've obviously realised how much money a great Rogue Squadron game would have made on the Wii! Have you played Lair yet?
mcj metroid Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 new interview from gonintendo: Our friends over at Revogamers were nice enough to translate some key points from their interview with Julian Eggebrecht. A lot of interesting stuff was said! - On publishers not taking advantage of the Wii’s power for graphics: “the traditional, more photorealistic route, because there you really have to push it, and they’re really not pushing it. Why not? Hmmm I don’t know, the hardware is very, very easy to understand. Now the problem might be –and it just might be- is that some studios -or some publishers specifically- are discarding the graphical capabilities automatically simply because it is a Wii title and they’re basically telling the developers “look, we won’t pay for any advanced graphics”.” - On Wii’s “shaders” and possibilities: “If you connect you can get a lot of shader effects which would’ve been on the 360 or the PS3.” (…)”it’s got so much more power compared to the GameCube. If even with the extremely similar shader hardware, the system clockrate is so much higher, you can do so much more advanced things” (…)”in the photorealistic route there’re certain things which the basic structure of the graphics hardware was not meant for and which you have to find really clever tricks to basically make up.” - On porting their old tools (SW engine): “If we would do a Wii version of that, certainly that could be something which somebody could license. (…)” “But I can imagine that there will be several engines coming out, also for the Wii ” - On casual gaming: “I really hate the current trend of the hardcore people very much getting into this bubble of being very defensive and not wanting the whole casual thing to happen. In the end it’s all one big market we’re, essentially we’re all casual.” - On F5’s next project: “We’re honestly at this point thinking about several titles in development (…). So might be PS3, might be Wii… we’re totally open to that.” - On Mario Galaxy: “is so inspired that it seems to be worth the success of Mario 64. (…) “yes, this thing is actually taking advantage, (…) it’s basically doing new graphical things with the hardware” - On the German and European industry: “now that the consoles are coming back, specially with the Wii selling so extremely well, I think for the first time in many, many years, you actually have a pan-European situation where you can develop quite nicely” i think ever single word of this is true. I especially agree with the hardcore gamers comment underlined.
harribo Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I certainly hope you're not saying that people on this forum are "very much getting into this bubble of being very defensive and not wanting the whole casual thing to happen" because I certainly see no evidence of that.
Fanelia Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 there are some people, like me for instance, who feel like throwing up when shigsy says "i don't think anybody is interested anymore in a long epic zelda game". well okay. forward the minigames, and suck my fucking cock! then you get all these pikmin resembling fanboys who try to crawl up his ass going like "yeah, minigames are great! there isn't anyone on the defense, is there?" fuck casual gaming, and fuck you too if you think that nintendo's market share is more important than your own gaming experience. "but this way more developers will get interested in developing games for wii". more interested in making crappy minigames for the new demographics is NOT a good thing assholes.
jammy2211 Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 there are some people, like me for instance, who feel like throwing up when shigsy says "i don't think anybody is interested anymore in a long epic zelda game". well okay. forward the minigames, and suck my fucking cock! then you get all these pikmin resembling fanboys who try to crawl up his ass going like "yeah, minigames are great! there isn't anyone on the defense, is there?" fuck casual gaming, and fuck you too if you think that nintendo's market share is more important than your own gaming experience. "but this way more developers will get interested in developing games for wii". more interested in making crappy minigames for the new demographics is NOT a good thing assholes. He was talking specifically about Japan with that statement, and to be honest, he has a point. All the 'long epic games' are declining in sales in Japan, in favour of other sorts of games. Not so much minigame packs, but equally not adventure games. He did say it was selling well in the Americas and Europe, and I don't see Nintendo's line up any different to the GameCube's in all honesty :S. Except, third parties seems to be more focused on making exclusive 'long epic games' as well as others porting their old games or making some cash-in minigame compilation. All he ever really does is speak his opinion, and I think he was spot on. The demand for these sorts of games in declining in Japan, but I don't think their solution is going to be turning their back on all their old fans.
DCK Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Wow for the Factor 5 interview. I really hope they will develop for the Wii, Lair being bad or not.
LegoMan1031 Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 I'll sign it, i think it would be good to have factor 5 onboard again for the wii and i would personally love a new rogue squadren game (anythin is better than the third). EDIT: Signed!
Zechs Merquise Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Have you played Lair yet? I haven't played Lair. But when so many people say it's so bad you get the picture. Everyone with any credibility has panned it for the important stuff, controls and gameplay. http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/929230.asp It's not a one off or a harsh review, it's a consenus.
Slaggis Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 I haven't played Lair. But when so many people say it's so bad you get the picture. Everyone with any credibility has panned it for the important stuff, controls and gameplay. http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/929230.asp It's not a one off or a harsh review, it's a consenus. Still you can't say it's rubbish intill you've actually played it yourself. Anyway, hopefully they will develop something for the Wii.
Zechs Merquise Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Still you can't say it's rubbish intill you've actually played it yourself. Anyway, hopefully they will develop something for the Wii. Well, I don't think that's entirely true. If everyone's comments on here were confined to games they've actually played we wouldn't have much discussion. If it was a game where opinion was split between two large groups, one saying it was good and one saying the opposite that would be another matter, however from reading reivews and impressions of this it's fair to say it's crap.
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