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So your argument is that games would be created to run perfectly on Neo and thus may not even function acceptably on the base model, which they were not optimised for. That the base model would suffer as a result of the new model. The scenario you describe has to be the most foolhardy way to develop a game. For one, the original PS4 has sold through 40 million systems; by the time the Neo launches that could well be 50-60 million. So to not develop games with those people in mind; to leave the base version of games in a worse state than what those gamers are used to seems silly. Second, to develop a game on the powerful system and then worrying about the lesser system performance after is only going to lead to trouble. It makes more sense to develop your game to function well on the lesser system since if you do it the other way around, maybe the lesser system can't even handle the game you made (e.g. number of NPCs on screen) meaning you have just wasted your time. If you look at the Neo reports they clearly indicate there can be no gameplay differences. Thus, it really will be a resolution/FPS upping on the Neo. Let's wait and see before complaining that this will make things worse for us original owners because nothing so far convinces me of your argument. Can you explain why people are annoyed by this? This is no different to upgrading your PC graphics card to achieve the same thing (to achieve a higher level of performance). Yes, you can achieve 60 FPS on PC by lowering other sliders, but that means lowering other sliders. This way you can have both the resolution/graphics and FPS bump. When people bought their PS4 they knew the level of performance they were buying into. This gives people that want to upgrade the option. If you don't want to upgrade then you can carry on playing games at the graphical level you are used to.

So it's just about resolution to you? Why is that the only factor to consider? Better 3D effect in all games, reduced loading times + OS snappiness, more powerful system so that it can run exclusive games (which even the Neo isn't supposed to have). And that includes all the SNES games - N3DS only. And regarding your question about will people upgrade. Well I bought the N3DS XL while having the 3DS XL already. I then sold my 3DS XL for £100 or so. It was a very good upgrade given the 3D effect alone. I liked having the choice; why do you want people to have less choice?

Did anyone see a problem paying £200+ for a N3DS after maybe already buying the XL not long ago? I'm guessing not, because it was optional. If they bought it, it's because they saw it as a good investment. Do people also see a problem that major phone companies release one new flagship every year? It seems to me that you are unhappy that other people might have something better than you. Rather than appreciate what is in front of you, you base your happiness on whether there is a new model that other people might be enjoying. If you think about it, if the original PS4 keeps going then there is essentially no difference, other than your perception of the better deal out there. And really, that attitude is what stumps me. The PC has always, always been the better deal graphically - consoles are outdated automatically in the face of PC. If you're the kind of person who hates there being a better deal out there in terms of performance then home consoles are not for you.

I am being absolutely fair. A new standard is not decided just by looking at old history. Looking at the cycles as far back as NES/SNES couldn't be less relevant to today. The current market and customer attitudes (along with the PS3/360 era) are a far better judge. If you disagree about the 'at least 7 year' thing - do you expect the PS5 by the end of the year in 2018 then (ie. a 'normal' generation length)? Answer this while bearing in mind the console refreshes appear to be penned for 2017. As long as they continue to release games that run fully on the original system then the generation continues. They will look prettier on one system over the other but it's doesn't mean the generation has ended. Did you consider the 3DS generation to have ended upon launch of the N3DS?

As Blade touched on, the Wii U lifespan has for all intents and purposes, even if not officially, been very short. The Wii U effectively died quite a while ago in terms of support and is merely on life support until NX. Them announcing the NX next year does not suddenly make the Wii U situation any better. Also: Actually, given the way console gaming has matured, 7 years does not feel like an anomaly but the new standard. Let's see if I'm right by seeing how long it takes until the actual PS5.

Nope, if anything they have extended the generation - I can easily see a refresh keeping this generation going for longer as it keeps the current system family relevant. While we might have seen a new generation of consoles in 3 years, now that there is a refresh planned I am led to doubt that very much. I think the fundamental problem with your argument is that you don't understand what a generation is. It's not a new generation of consoles, because they're still running the same games as each other. It's not backwards compatibility at all, because the refreshed hardware isn't additionally running new games. The comparison you are looking for is PC, where games can run at different graphical levels, depending upon your rig. This is nothing new; and importantly, nobody in their right mind would say this feature on PC is somehow detrimental to the consumer or gaming. So what gives? Choice is a good thing, no? I bet people would have given their right arm for a Wii+ that played the same games but in HD, with the option of sticking to the old model if you wanted. And back to my previous point - optional upgrade after a short period is by far preferable to a forced upgrade after a short lifespan (forced as in, if you want to continue to play Nintendo software). That's why I don't get your singling out of console refreshes while totally ignoring something far worse.

Still don't get this argument. How is ending a generation early a la Wii U better than this? With Neo at least, games will still run on the original consoles so what is the issue exactly?

Pretty damn mad. 10 million sales within the past 6 months. Just to put that in perspective...12.8 million Wii Us sold in 3.5 years.

I proposed to my girlfriend and she said yes. Also five guys opened by Kings Cross so am currently nursing a food baby. Good shit.

Agree with you 100% on this. I was actually quite happy when I reached the end.

Just finished the game. I wasn't super impressed with it to be honest - it's amazing graphically and has great set pieces, but the shooting did generally not feel great and I think the general business of ledge hopping, dropping boxes and doing boosts has worn a bit thin on me. It felt great in the early days of PS3 but doesn't quite entertain me the same way now.

Gutted...they should just offer to pay for glitch information so the glitch finders don't blab.

Yeah same, got a Halifax clarity a few months ago. The best card for going abroad I think. Was incredibly useful in Japan (great for drawing out cash over there too since you can pay off interest right away online). Contrary to popular belief, withdrawing cash abroad with this card is much more cost effective than exchanging money in this country beforehand. Good to have some cash as a backup though.

I finished my PhD at UCL about a year and a half ago, good place! The most central of the London unis. My girlfriend is now working at UCL too as a post doc, ever since she finished at Cambridge. I am no longer at UCL though, nor academia. I didn't look back.

Nice. Which uni?

People who say Minecraft needs a graphical overhaul just don't get it - that's part of the charm. Nobody is playing it for modern graphics. I also don't see how that could really work - the whole world is constructed by large blocks so is 'pixelated' by its very design. HD texture packs already exist for the game, but by no means make the game look modern, and only cater to a reasonably small audience.

Sounds like there's something wrong with your unit then. Given how rarely I'm guessing you play it that could also be an issue. Batteries can die when not used often.

There's no way on hell or Earth that the 3DS lasts longer in sleep than the Vita. The 3DS is infamous for its shit battery (it lasts considerably less than the Vita and has far less impressive specs). The 3DS lasts maybe a few days at most if you close the lid, and even then the battery has depleted considerably (possibly due in part to Streetpass). My Vita can last just over a week in sleep.

Skip it. Get to da UC4.

As someone who has thoroughly been invested in AC since AC2 this looks pretty damn nice to me. Cool to hear AC music in this, wish they chose that instead.

I got the platinum for this last night. Great game from start to finish.

It doesn't seem right. Even though we knew about his situation, nothing can prepare you for the title of this topic. Very upset to hear this news. He was a great guy. A genuinely nice and down-to-earth person who I have had the pleasure of chatting with over the years. It sounds silly, but a message would always pop up on PSN whenever he logged in - now he won't, and that somehow feels very empty. I'm just totally gutted that we've lost a really great guy.

I reassigned my stats at Rosaria to get about 60 luck, had the gold covetous ring, symbol of avarice, the crystal sage rapier off hand and had all the proofs of concord kept that I needed in a few hours. There were times when I didn't have much luck but then I also got some quite close together. The other covenant items are much easier to get. Also factor in that you get a couple of the items free per playthrough as loot on the floor, and you'll need to complete the game around 3 times anyway.

And Zero Escape 3 next month too. What a time indeed.

Amazing. Best bit: A fun poke at review scoring in general, the people who hinge off scores and why I think it's usually detrimental to have them in a review. In other news, I just bought Uncharted 4 for 32 quid off Amazon, being delivered within a 2-hour window that I selected tomorrow. Link here with the promo code for those interested.