rokhed00 Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 A girl of 11 hanged herself after her mother banned her from watching Big Brother, an inquest heard yesterday. Yasmin Browder was found suspended from a bathroom door hook by her dressing gown belt tied around her neck. Her mother, Jill Morey, a 38-year-old care worker, tried to save her but she was pronounced dead at hospital. The inquest was told that Yasmin had been helping her mother decorate their home in Shoreham, West Sussex, in June when an argument broke out. As they began to pack up for the day, Yasmin protested about her mother leaving the decorating equipment in her bedroom. Miss Morey said: 'Everything was fine until the time when I said to her I was leaving the bucket, wallpaper and stripper in her room until the morning. 'She went totally out of character and started launching things out of her room. I said, "Why are you doing this?". She said, "I don't want it in my room".' Miss Morey said she went downstairs, leaving Yasmin 'stropping around' before she returned to her mother and said she intended to watch Big Brother. 'I told her she was not going to because she had misbehaved and that she was going to bed,' said Miss Morey. 'I shut her bedroom door, went downstairs into the lounge to watch Big Brother and I could hear her stropping around upstairs.' Some time later, Yasmin went downstairs and into the bathroom, leading her mother to believe she was going to have a shower. But when her father phoned later and she failed to go to the phone or shout out from the bathroom, Miss Morey knocked on the door. When she received no answer, she went outside and peered through a small window to see Yasmin standing against the bathroom door. She said: 'I saw her standing against the bathroom door with her eyes open. I thought she was having a strop behind the door and ignoring me. My boyfriend returned home and launched the lock off the door. Yasmin had her dressing gown on and the belt was around the door and her neck. 'She was obviously unconscious. I was shocked and distressed. I released the belt to put her on the floor, then tried to resuscitate her three times. I was hysterical. I was trying all I could for her.' Miss Morey's boyfriend, Mark Webb, dialled 999 and Yasmin was taken to hospital where she was pronounced dead 40 minutes later. The inquest at Worthing heard that Miss Morey and her ex-husband, Paul Browder, a 42-year-old printing proprietor, had been separated for six years. Yasmin, a year seven pupil, had enjoyed a weekend on the beach with her father before her death on the Monday evening. Mr Browder said: 'She was on the up. She was on cloud nine. She had everything to look forward to, friends, school, holidays. Just everything was positive in her life.' Detective Constable Tim Hughes, of Sussex Police, said there was no history of bullying at school or any indication of self-harm in either her diary or text messages. West Sussex coroner Roger Stone said: 'This is one of the saddest cases I have had to deal with.' Recording an open verdict, he said: 'Yasmin got into a strop, as her mum said, and could not watch Big Brother. 'This was some kind of an impulsive gesture which has gone horribly wrong, for Yasmin, her family, and perhaps wrong for our society.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400099&in_page_id=17 How pathetic is that?
Ramar Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 That is possibly the most pathetic and sadest thing I have seen.
Shorty Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 It's the Daily Mail for fuck's sake, do you really take that garbage seriously anymore? They've taken two words out of the whole story, two words that will cause the most trouble, and made them the focus of the situation. There could've been so many more things the Mother isn't saying. Perhaps she was an abusive parent, or denied her daughter everything and anything. Perhaps the girl was being bullied and ignored. Is the Mother likely to blame herself in front of the press? It's a tragedy of course, and I can't stand Big Brother, but it's nonsense to tie the two together with so little to go on.
conzer16 Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Pathetic, indeed, but what does say about how we teach our children the value of life? Does life mean so little to children/youths today that they use it as a protest to watch a tv program? I am deeply troubled by this.
Fierce_LiNk Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 It's the Daily Mail for fuck's sake, do you really take that garbage seriously anymore? They've taken two words out of the whole story, two words that will cause the most trouble, and made them the focus of the situation. There could've been so many more things the Mother isn't saying. Perhaps she was an abusive parent, or denied her daughter everything and anything. Perhaps the girl was being bullied and ignored. Is the Mother likely to blame herself in front of the press? It's a tragedy of course, and I can't stand Big Brother, but it's nonsense to tie the two together with so little to go on. I agree with this. Alright, we all know how 'teenage angst' works, but the kid could not have been in an emotionally stable state if she wanted to kill herself over something so petty as this. If it hadn't have been big brother, it would probably have been something else. Emmerdale? Not letting the kid go outside? Etc.
Calza Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Also what was with the girl getting angry about her mum leaving the wallpaper, bucket and stripper in her room. Maybe something happened when she was with her dad? I argree with Shorty tho, obivously something else happened and they just want to leave in the "juicy" bits in.
Jon Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 I couldn't help but burst out laughing when I heard this.
martinist Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 somthing like this is just to stupid for me to believe, its big brother for gods sake...the crappiest show arround
Kav Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Come on, we all know it wasn't over not being able to watch Big Brother! She hadn't intended to actually kill herself, I don't buy that for a second. I think it's an emotional cry out to her mother, she was looking to show her family that she was distressed and the arguement tipped her over the edge... her reasoning was that if she was found "trying to kill herself" then her mother would realise what emotional state she was in and thy could work through things. People do these things all the time, it's quite scary that they feel they can't just go and talk as opposed to taking such drastic measures!
conzer16 Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 she was looking to show her family that she was distressed and the arguement tipped her over the edge... Oh please....at the age of 11??? How can an 11 year old be in such a state of distress that she can be "tipped over the edge"...?
triforce_keeper Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Hmm, how sad. Shes either a very very stupid girl or there was something else than not watching big bro (most likely).
mcj metroid Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 That is just pathetic,over a TV program... also a very shit tv program to add to the mix(no offence if u like it but it is toss)
AshMat Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 they're trying to pin it on BB, but it's also because of the painting and stripping stuff being left in her room. I'm sorry, but i feel the girl is a bit of an idiot.
Athriller Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 It's the Daily Mail for fuck's sake, do you really take that garbage seriously anymore? They've taken two words out of the whole story, two words that will cause the most trouble, and made them the focus of the situation. There could've been so many more things the Mother isn't saying. Perhaps she was an abusive parent, or denied her daughter everything and anything. Perhaps the girl was being bullied and ignored. Is the Mother likely to blame herself in front of the press? It's a tragedy of course, and I can't stand Big Brother, but it's nonsense to tie the two together with so little to go on. Just quoting this again incase people decide to read the thread.
gaggle64 Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 they're trying to pin it on BB, but it's also because of the painting and stripping stuff being left in her room. I'm sorry, but i feel the girl is a bit of an idiot. Yes, living people driven to the brink of suicide for reasons we can only guess at deserve everything that's comming to them.
The3rdChildren Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 A waste of life. Especially for such trivial reasons.
gaggle64 Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 A waste of life. Especially for such trivial reasons. Somehow I suspect the actual reasons were not quite so trivial.
Haver Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Or maybe they were. Sometimes kids do stupid things. Sometimes adults do stupid things. Death is an utterly tragic consequence regardless.
gaggle64 Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Soooo, her parents divorcing, and a relationship with her mother that doesn't appear to suggest she has any personal space not likely to be nearly as important as Big Brother in her life then?
Kav Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Oh please....at the age of 11??? How can an 11 year old be in such a state of distress that she can be "tipped over the edge"...? Everyone has "an edge", yeah she's only 11 but people have very different ways of coping with many different things, pressure is always there! Don't be so foolish to think there's not... people committ suicide over 11+ results (yes, the test you take at the end of primary school)! you'd be surprised!
Babooo Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Yeh I read this in the Daily Mail a couple of days ago. Absolutely ridiculous.
The3rdChildren Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Somehow I suspect the actual reasons were not quite so trivial. In my opinion there is NO reason to throw your life away, and any reason to do so is trivial compared to the precious value of being alive.
Charlie Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 It's the Daily Mail for fuck's sake, do you really take that garbage seriously anymore? They've taken two words out of the whole story, two words that will cause the most trouble, and made them the focus of the situation. There could've been so many more things the Mother isn't saying. Perhaps she was an abusive parent, or denied her daughter everything and anything. Perhaps the girl was being bullied and ignored. Is the Mother likely to blame herself in front of the press? It's a tragedy of course, and I can't stand Big Brother, but it's nonsense to tie the two together with so little to go on. I completely agree with this, obviously the parent isn't going to say anything that could implicate her in it.
Haver Posted August 14, 2006 Posted August 14, 2006 Soooo, her parents divorcing, and a relationship with her mother that doesn't appear to suggest she has any personal space not likely to be nearly as important as Big Brother in her life then? She's 11 years old. 11 year olds have a very different value system to the rest of us. And vis-a-vis personal space: If I'd killed myself over television shows I wasn't allowed to watch or being sent to bed or having to Clean My Room, I would be very much dead.
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