Sheikah Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I've got MGS2, never finished, MGS3, never played, and MGS4, played 15 mins. Should I try and plough through them all for the story's sake before getting this? Was thinking of a guide to make some progress on MGS2, since I found it a bit irritatingly clunky. I got to the point where you don't have a radar and the camera is zoomed right in, top down view, so you can't see enemies on the other side of the room even though you clearly would be able to see them >____> I'd say it's worth playing the other games because it is quite a story focused series, and games like MGS3 are very much worth playing. It also gives you quite a bit of investment in the series, having followed the story and characters through. Although the story is quite convoluted it is quite enjoyable to piece together throughout the games.
Shorty Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I decided a while ago that I would have an MGS-a-thon, I completed the original MSX Metal Gear games and went through MGS1 for the hundredth time, but that bit of MGS2 I described above halted the entire experience for me....
Happenstance Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Quiet is playing MGSV on Twitch at the moment http://www.twitch.tv/stefaniejoosten
Hero-of-Time Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 I've got MGS2, never finished, MGS3, never played, and MGS4, played 15 mins. Should I try and plough through them all for the story's sake before getting this? Was thinking of a guide to make some progress on MGS2, since I found it a bit irritatingly clunky. I got to the point where you don't have a radar and the camera is zoomed right in, top down view, so you can't see enemies on the other side of the room even though you clearly would be able to see them >____> If you're just bothered about the story in MGSV then you can probably skip MGS2 and 4. MGS3, Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes are the key ones for this game. You could just watch catch up vids but I will echo what the others have said and recommend you at least play MGS3. Fantastic story and amazing ending. One of favourite games of all time.
Shorty Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Maybe I'll watch some story catch up for 2 and jump into 3. Time to dust off the 360!
MadDog Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Story wise, wouldn't I be completely lost? Is it like the witcher? I never played any of them before, but I still loved it. Yeah, you could be a little lost. Did you download Ground Zeroes when it was on PS+? That does a decent job of filling you in on the story so far and then the end of that leads into this game. Yeah I've got Ground Zeroes on my PS account. Is it like a prequel or something? Is the gameplay similar to Phantom Pain?
Hero-of-Time Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 Yeah I've got Ground Zeroes on my PS account. Is it like a prequel or something? Is the gameplay similar to Phantom Pain? Yeah, it's very much a prequel to the events in V. The gameplay is also identical. Give it a try and see if you like it.
drahkon Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Fuck me this game's hard. I keep dying left and right. I love it Being stealthy is a lot more difficult than in the older games. I keep fucking up which always results in me becoming Rambo and having to kill everything. Enemies are tough, though.
Happenstance Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I've actually found the stealth a lot easier than in previous games but I think thats down to the controls being the best they've been in the series. Apart from 4 and Ground Zeroes I always felt like I was fighting against the controls all the time.
Cookyman Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Can't wait until October 6th for the multiplayer, it looks fantastic!
Blade Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 If you're just bothered about the story in MGSV then you can probably skip MGS2 and 4. MGS3, Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes are the key ones for this game. You could just watch catch up vids but I will echo what the others have said and recommend you at least play MGS3. Fantastic story and amazing ending. One of favourite games of all time. Worth getting MGS3 for the 3DS then?
CoolFunkMan Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 What a lovely video - genuinely emotional. It's really an amazing video, and just shows how much Kojima cares about his fans. On a random note, one of my mates picked this up today, so I'm gonna get the lowdown from him. And when he's done with it, I'll get to borrow it!n
Jimbob Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Finally finished that Bee's mission, boy that was fun. And i captured myself a new companion quite soon afterwards. Comparing the stealth to other games in the series, this is a lot better by a long shot. Worth getting MGS3 for the 3DS then? Yes, 3 is a fantastic game. Until Phantom Pain came along, it was my favourite in the series.
Happenstance Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Worth getting MGS3 for the 3DS then? From what I've heard though, if you can play it somewhere other than 3DS then I would.
Hero-of-Time Posted September 4, 2015 Author Posted September 4, 2015 Worth getting MGS3 for the 3DS then? From what I've heard though, if you can play it somewhere other than 3DS then I would. Pretty much what Happenstance said. While it is playable ( think nando and RedShell played it on the 3DS ) its by far the worst version. Ideally you want to play through the version on the HD collection. Had a cracking mission last night. It was the mission where you had to eliminate the hostages to stop them from talking. Having found the first guy ( I sent him back to base. To hell with orders. ) I went to the mines to nab the rest of them. I was shocked to see that they were kids! I honestly thought that BB had pulled the trigger on them. The next section was amazing. I usually hate escort missions but I really wanted to keep the kids alive and done everything I could to get them to the extraction zone ( GET TO DA CHOPPA ) safely. It was very tense but very satisfying. I done a bunch of side missions, as well. The ones where you have to take care of the tank crew have become hilarious now that I can steal tanks. There was one where the guards were all walking in front of the tank, so I snuck up behind the tank and sent it back to base. If the guards had turned around they would have been in for a shock. I was honestly giggling like a school girl, as I set up the fulton system and then shot it off up in the air.
Happenstance Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 I done a bunch of side missions, as well. The ones where you have to take care of the tank crew have become hilarious now that I can steal tanks. There was one where the guards were all walking in front of the tank, so I snuck up behind the tank and sent it back to base. If the guards had turned around they would have been in for a shock. I was honestly giggling like a school girl, as I set up the fulton system and then shot it off up in the air. I was doing a mission last night where one of the side objectives was to rescue a prisoner being transported by jeep. I killed the guys transporting him but instead of taking him out and fultoning him, I thought screw it and fultoned the jeep with him still inside. Pretty sure the prisoner never made it back to mother base lol. Also, turns out that bears dont like it when you sneak up behind them and try to place C4 on them. Who knew?
Hero-of-Time Posted September 4, 2015 Author Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Also, turns out that bears dont like it when you sneak up behind them and try to place C4 on them. Who knew? I had a bear mission the other day. Took all of my tranq bullets to finally bring him down. Just seen that the soundtrack is on iTunes. Snapped up Sins of the Father and Quiets theme. Lovely tracks. Edited September 4, 2015 by Hero-of-Time
drahkon Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 7 hours of total playtime now. I just spent 1 hour and 20 minutes with that 'Bee mission'. Lots of planning has been made. Lots of plans have been scrapped because of either miserable execution (resulting in my execution ) or miscalculations of enemy placement/movement. Restarted some checkpoints, but my final run was pretty cool. I basically evaded every enemy soldier and found the target without being noticed. : peace: And the shit that went down after I acquired the objective...I was on the edge of my seat Halfway through that mission I realized how important equipment drops and supply drops are. Since you can basically carry only one secondary weapon as the second slot is always taken by your prosthetic arm, being able to have a lethal, suppressed pistol sent to you is amazing. Phantom Pain is revolutionizing open-ended gameplay for me. The game adapts to you and you have to adapt to the game in an endless cycle it seems. It always seems fresh and new, even though you eventually have all the tools at your disposal. This and The Witcher 3 are new benchmarks for basically any game of the genres they are part of (maybe even for games in any genre).
Happenstance Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Ok....I think I have actually finished the story this time! It wouldnt be Metal Gear though if I didnt leave confused though. Final time was 47 hours
Jimbob Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Ok....I think I have actually finished the story this time! It wouldnt be Metal Gear though if I didnt leave confused though. Final time was 47 hours Not bad, that's good value for money.
Happenstance Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Ok then, some final thoughts: Its an incredible game, but not one without its flaws unfortunately. Those are mainly down to the story and voice acting. I think probably with any other game the story would have been less of an issue but of course, this is Metal Gear and because of that we were expecting a dense story, not one that kind of comes to you in drips throughout a 50 hour game. The voice acting is the worst part for me. Not necessarily the quality of Sutherland's work but just the amount. There are times when he feels like a silent protagonist and it actually takes you out of the moment. One mission in particular has a ridiculously long silence which feels like they wanted a reaction there but couldnt afford it. The missions though were brilliant. I have always been terrible at Metal Gear Solid games, never getting along with the stealth mechanics but this time it was like they finally got everything just right and with it being an open world game, I could plan exactly how I wanted things to go. Multiple times I felt like a complete badass, going through bases completely un-seen or just sitting from a distance and taking someone out with my sniper rifle. I never would have expected at all to get an S rank on a mission before I started, let alone the 5 or 6 I ended up getting. Quiet probably ended up being my favourite character in the game. Once I got over her "costume" (and Kojima claiming we would understand when we heard the reasons was pretty much bullcrap) I found her to be interesting and pretty damn awesome. She was always my buddy of choice. Ok then, so you dont play as the real Big Boss. Some people seem to be going crazy about this on other forums but for the most part, I did see it coming. They did a good job of having things not feel quite right throughout the game and when you first came across the AI pod when you were extracting Huey, she mentions that you arent Big Boss which set off alarm bells in my head. Im not sure if it was necessarily a twist that was needed but I guess they wanted to explain away the death and return of Big Boss in Metal Gears 1+2. Gonna miss Quiet God I hated Huey throughout that entire game and its a shame you couldnt choose to kill him! I was surprised nothing happened with Eli/Liquid Snake after he stole the Metal Gear So yeah, great game and I'm sure I'll be sticking with it for a while to finish off all the side missions.
nekunando Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Worth getting MGS3 for the 3DS then? I played Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D with the original 3DS and the controls were far from ideal. If you have a New 3DS or a Circle Pad Pro, I imagine it will control significantly better and as such would probably recommend it if you're curious about the game or simply want to catch up on the story. Personally, I played it on PS2 in recent years before going through it again on 3DS and it's possibly my least favourite in the series, though I've only played up until the end of Guns of the Patriots so far with Ground Zeroes waiting on my PS3 hard drive. Edited September 4, 2015 by nekunando
Jimbob Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Just fully upgraded the Fultron stuff, now can extract just about everything.
Hero-of-Time Posted September 5, 2015 Author Posted September 5, 2015 Just completed the main story. I........errrr........hmmmmmmm EDIT:.................ok maybe not then. Sneaky Kojima! Just reached this.... Please don't tell me I have to replay the same missions again but with just different restrictions? Seems very cheap if that's the case. I didn't care for a few of the chapters in the mid 20s. Felt like I was playing Resident Evil or something. How many more missions are there to do before I get the real ending?
Happenstance Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Just reached this.... Please don't tell me I have to replay the same missions again but with just different restrictions? Seems very cheap if that's the case. I didn't care for a few of the chapters in the mid 20s. Felt like I was playing Resident Evil or something. How many more missions are there to do before I get the real ending? There are 50 missions overall. During Chapter 2 though you dont have to do all of them. Usually just going off and doing a side mission or something and returning to Mother Base will trigger a new story point so its not that bad. I ended up doing most of the missions before I realised this but there are still 5 or 6 I didnt complete by the time I got the true ending. Also, if you read my thoughts a few posts ago about the game, the moment I was talking about where the lack of VO really stood out was the car ride with Skull Face at the end of Episode 30.
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