Cube Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 @Shorty if those features were as good as they said, and actually a selling point, Microsoft are utterly moronic for not keeping them for digital game. There was absolutely nothing stopping them from doing that. It seems there may some truth to this rumour after all. Apparently CVG dismissed the rumour for the UK but some other European countries may be set to miss out on the One this year. Be a bit nuts if any of this turns out to be true. Well, Sony have dominance over Xbox over most European countries - so it sounds like Microsoft may be focusing on keeping the UK with Xbox. Which may hopefully lead to some good competition over here.
Sheikah Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Personally I don't think their decisions were out of touch in the first place. Really? After the massive backlash, and even after Microsoft themselves going back on them? Surely the correct decisions are the ones most people want. Even if you liked what they proposed, if having those decisions made real meant loads of potential customers weren't happy with the console, then they weren't the right decisions.
Cube Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) What he means was that they had some very nice ideas for treating digital games. They just made the dumb decision of messing with retail games. The perfect solution would be: - The planned system for digital games, with a more lenient online check. - Selling digital codes to retailers (like Nintendo do). - Retail games work normally and without these features. (Although I do think that the features were also removed from digital games because Microsoft's vagueness meant that everyone thought they meant "10 people have full access to all your games" when it was more of a time limited demo - the revelation would be more bad press whereas removing it at the same time as the other stuff would go fairly unnoticed and people would be happy) Edited August 14, 2013 by Cube Automerged Doublepost
Sheikah Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Well when I was saying they were out of touch I was referring to most of the retail stuff, which they should have realised wasn't going to go down well. Hence calling them out of touch.
Daft Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Lets say I put Spotify on my PC, and I get a Spotify Premium service, that gives me mobile access. Now I can listen to my music and my playlists on the go. Amazing! All the songs I want, playlists, radio stations, albums, all in my pocket all the time. I can play this music to anyone. I can even sync the songs on my phone so that they're available to play when I don't have an internet connection. The check-in period for Spotify is 30 days. I think Microsoft would have faired much better had the restriction not been so tight. Even once a week would have been better than every day.
bryanee Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Confirmed to be delayed in a bunch of places http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651819
Cube Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/424164/ms-teases-unique-exclusive-for-xbox-one-reveal-at-gamescom/ Microsoft will be announcing a "unique exclusive" at Gamescom. Although without them using the word "game" it could be anything.
Ramar Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 No one is saying that. I think I did. Just because I didn't agree with their vision shouldn't deter them.
Dcubed Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Confirmed to be delayed in a bunch of places http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651819 Everyone's favourite pair of buttocks is also hinting at more (related) info to come next week... http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76359187&postcount=6268 Oh boy!
MindFreak Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 At least they're giving away a free game for those who have preordered Day One Edition. -_-
Dcubed Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 At least they're giving away a free game for those who have preordered Day One Edition. -_- True. Fair play to them, that's a pretty nice gesture (though it's pretty funny that Japan isn't even considered to be a Tier 2 country anymore for them )
Daft Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Xbone delayed until 2014 in a few territories. At E3, we announced that Xbox One would be available in 21 markets around the world at launch. This was an aggressive goal and the team has been working very hard to deliver Xbox One to as many markets as possible. Our priority is ensuring our customers get the best Xbox One experience the first day it is available. To do that, and in order to meet demand, we have adjusted the number of markets that will receive Xbox One in November to 13 markets, including Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, Spain, United Kingdom, United States and New Zealand, in November. We remain committed to launching Xbox One in Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, as soon as possible in 2014. The fact they can't coordinate/produce enough units for a global launch put a little niggle in the back of my mind. It's a rushed launch, for sure.
MindFreak Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 I preordered Xbox One last night after this reveal so that I will get to get a free game with it. If the game turns out to be crap, I'll just cancel and wait a bit longer. I wouldn't have bought the console this year anyways.
Agent Gibbs Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) I've just generally no faith in the console being any good, the 360 came out it wasn't rushed but yet it still had the overheating issues. The Xbone on the other hand has been in development for ages yet they misjudged what the vast majority of gamers wanted and have had to flip flop on a whole host of issues, theres been rumours of minor hardware changes due to manufacturing problems and now its been delayed in some territories because they can't produce enough stock. If this wasn't a microsoft console and didn't have the current track record to fall back on nobody would be wanting to wait for it, right now the only thing going for the Xbone is the fact people assume it can be as good as the 360, and personally i don't have that faith. I've said it before but various issues made me fall out of love with MS and the 360 (UI becoming an advert,Xb live lack of value for money, RROD) so to me my confidence of MS as a company are at an all time low, they produced Windows 8 forcing metro on everyone and its been widely criticised for it, the Xbone was anounced with a boat load of restrictions and new ways they thought was cool, and its been widely criticised, i've seen nothing to inspire confidence in them, only random backtracking (good things though) acts that scream despiration, every thing is so rushed. They are on the right track with the changes and yes it shows they are listening, but it doesn't shake the probelms and perception its giving people, it just shows they are deperately backtracing to play catchup to what consumers actually want Right now they'd be best delaying until summer 2014 and fixing the isssues, restoring the digital aspects of the xbone but without the restricions and keeping disks, otherwise i can see them bombing so hard it will make the WiiU look positively PS2 levels of popular/successful Edited August 15, 2013 by Agent Gibbs
Dcubed Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Ok, major leak time, courtesy of the Buttocks! http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654903 A translation below, for those that don't speak Arse... TL: #1 No livestream from GDC due to yield issues, 15-20% performance drops in latest SDK--this is a normal setback for console development, and will be fixed, but not in time for an early October launch... #2 ... Certainly not for all 21 countries. Localization is BS; look at official/spoken languages in countries that did/didn't make it. I was right on yield issues, and this is pushing launch titles, Smartglass, etc. back. (All the 180s with MS abandoning and redirecting their vision are taking their toll) #3 PS4 SDKs effectively final, launch in late October. #4 MS has picked up a Platinum Games exclusive... NOT for NA/Europe though (which he thinks makes no sense). Talks with other JP devs are also ongoing, but CBoAT can only guarantee this one. #5 Bigpark has canceled their MOBA project, shifted entirely to TV focus. Dev talent to Big Tusk or gone completely. Rare on Kinect. #6 New indie policy not finalized, details post-launch #7 Early September surprise. CBoAT backing down on previous claims of Kinectless SKU; new potential for console-only SKU in March-April based on launch performance. Platinum... Bollocking shit... They've got me by the balls (unless its multiplatform for it's western release - why the hell anyone would agree to that deal with an Xbox Japan exclusive of all things, I have no idea though!) Edited August 18, 2013 by Dcubed
Clownferret Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 so Sony copy Nintendo and now Microsoft are copying Sony... just buy NIntendo simples squeak squeak
Hero-of-Time Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 So apparently Microsoft are bundling a 3rd party game with the console. Microsoft has signed a landmark deal to bundle a "major third-party title" free with every Xbox One launch system across Europe, CVG understands. Each new Xbox One console sold in Europe (and perhaps the US) will come free with the title that alone will retail at £40 or higher, in an attempt to kick away at the £80 premium Xbox One has over Sony's PS4. A source with knowledge of the deal, who wished to remain anonymous, said the developments were part of Microsoft's goal of adding value to its system without lowering its £429 release day price. The specific game set to be bundled with Xbox One launch systems was not named, although it's understood to be a "major" Christmas release. Striking a deal of this magnitude is thought to have cost Microsoft further millions in budget as it prepares to launch its next-generation Xbox around the world. This major game, the source said, is the "unique Xbox One exclusive" that Microsoft executive Phil Spencer said was being saved for a Gamescom announcemen Gaf have done the detective work and it looks like it may be Fifa. The thing is if you were to buy a PS4 & Fifa it would still be cheaper than the ONE.
Charlie Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 So apparently Microsoft are bundling a 3rd party game with the console. Gaf have done the detective work and it looks like it may be Fifa. The thing is if you were to buy a PS4 & Fifa it would still be cheaper than the ONE. Getting FIFA as a free launch title would be a massive coup for Microsoft. When you factor in the Kinect (which a lot of people admitedly won't want) it's an alright deal.
Daft Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 I shows a real lack of confidence in their product. I share that lack of confidence.
Cube Posted August 20, 2013 Author Posted August 20, 2013 Gaf have done the detective work and it looks like it may be Fifa. The thing is if you were to buy a PS4 & Fifa it would still be cheaper than the ONE. That makes sense considering that they're announcing something to do with the "Biggest franchise in Europe" at Gamescom.
Hero-of-Time Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 That makes sense considering that they're announcing something to do with the "Biggest franchise in Europe" at Gamescom. Yup. It's a good deal to be sure but to me it just reeks of desperation, just like every other move Microsoft have made since E3.
Rowan Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) It's a great deal. I'm assuming it being a bundle deal you may not be able to trade it in (like Forza 4 Essentials) but either way it's still a good deal. Have to say I'm loving the competiton that is happening between Sony & Microsoft as it means we the consumers are going to win. Here's hoping Sony chuck in a free game too:D edit: looks like its a digital copy: http://media.whosay.com/400992/400992_lalt.jpg Edited August 20, 2013 by Rowan
Hero-of-Time Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Launch games have been announced but still no actual launch date yet. •Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag (Ubisoft, Ubisoft)•Battlefield 4 (DICE, Electronic Arts) •Call of Duty: Ghosts (Infinity Ward, Activision) •Crimson Dragon (Grounding/Land Ho!, Microsoft Studios) •Dead Rising 3 (Capcom Vancouver, Microsoft) •FIFA 14 (EA Sports, Electronic Arts) •Fighter Within (AMA Ltd., Ubisoft) •Forza Motorsport 5 (Turn 10 Studios, Microsoft Studios) •Just Dance 2014 (Ubisoft Paris, Ubisoft) •Killer Instinct (Double Helix, Microsoft Studios) •LEGO Marvel Super Heroes (TT Games, Warner Bros. Interactive) •Lococycle (Twisted Pixel, Microsoft Studios) •Madden NFL 25 (EA Sports, Electronic Arts) •NBA 2K14 (Visual Concepts, 2K Sports) •NBA LIVE 14 (EA Sports, Electronic Arts) •Need for Speed: Rivals (Ghost Games, Electronic Arts) •Peggle 2 (Popcap, Electronic Arts) •Powerstar Golf (Zoe Mode, Microsoft Studios) •Ryse: Son of Rome (Crytek, Microsoft Studios) •Skylanders: Swap Force (Vicarious Visions, Activision) •Watch Dogs (Ubisoft Montreal, Ubisoft) •Zoo Tycoon (Frontier Developments Ltd., Microsoft Studios) •Zumba Fitness: World Party (Zoë Mode, Majesco
Cube Posted August 20, 2013 Author Posted August 20, 2013 Have they shown anything about Zoo Tycoon yet? The original was amazing, but I have a horrible feeling that it's Kinectimals 2 in disguise.
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