Posted November 27, 2013 Maybe they're not "refusing to buy the Wii U" as much as they simply...don't want it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 I think it's possible that Japan are losing interest in home consoles, concentrating more on handhelds. Look at the amount of Japanese games released recently on the 3DS and Vita compared to home consoles. And then there are Sony and Microsoft. The Xbox One is out in North America, Europe, Asutralia and Brazil before Japan and as for the PS4, all these places get the PS4 this year: North America, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea, South East Asia, South Africa and India Japan is getting it in February 2014. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 I always thought that Sony isn't releasing the PS4 in Japan until 2014 simply because they don't need to. The Xbox One won't be out there to compete with, and the PS4 will do well in Japan regardless of when its released, so they can put their efforts (and consoles) into other territories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Microsoft also aren't releasing in most of those countries, while they do have plans for Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Microsoft also aren't releasing in most of those countries, while they do have plans for Japan. MS shouldnt even bother with Japan. The console will bomb harder than the 360 did which is saying something. Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2013 (Nov 18 - Nov 24) 01./00. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.11.21} (¥7.770) - 277.082 / NEW 02./00. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 99.588 / NEW 03./00. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 83.605 / NEW 04./05. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 72.932 / 3.002.738 (-12%) 05./00. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 72.087 / NEW 06./01. [PSV] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 39.052 / 305.378 (-85%) 07./03. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 35.879 / 187.678 (-76%) 08./02. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 29.252 / 219.883 (-85%) 09./07. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 21.120 / 2.959.789 (-20%) 10./00. [PSP] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 20.508 / 132.531 11./00. [PS3] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Beginner's Package <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.11.20} (¥6.090) - 19.334 / NEW 12./00. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 19.265 / NEW 13./00. [PSV] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari - The Alchemist of Arland # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.11.21} (¥6.090) - 17.536 / NEW 14./00. [PS3] New Atelier Rorona: Hajimari no Monogatari - The Alchemist of Arland # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.11.21} (¥7.140) - 14.060 / NEW 15./09. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 13.548 / 593.370 (-33%) 16./06. [3DS] Daigasso! Band Brothers P <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.14} (¥4.800) - 12.635 / 52.831 (-69%) 17./12. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.10.24} (¥3.980) - 9.485 / 190.659 (-30%) 18./10. [PS3] Battlefield 4 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.11.07} (¥7.665) - 9.134 / 150.124 (-53%) 19./11. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥3.980) - 7.624 / 24.600 (-55%) 20./16. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980) - 7.046 / 102.350 (-12%) Top 20 PS3 - 8 3DS - 6 PSP - 2 PSV - 2 WIU - 2 HARDWARE Code: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3DS # | 84.506 | 70.102 | 162.077 | 4.032.539 | 4.138.328 | 13.812.419 | | PSV # | 28.912 | 88.522 | 9.712 | 990.894 | 612.530 | 2.121.719 | | WIU | 21.002 | 15.906 | | 563.669 | | 1.190.956 | | PS3 | 12.436 | 12.019 | 34.167 | 733.341 | 1.013.072 | 9.593.425 | | PSP # | 3.546 | 4.353 | 16.903 | 404.060 | 723.274 | 20.033.071 | | WII | 457 | 518 | 3.590 | 66.104 | 433.215 | 12.704.940 | | 360 | 342 | 404 | 1.495 | 22.785 | 69.921 | 1.636.619 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ALL | 151.201 | 191.824 | 229.143 | 6.813.392 | 7.109.731 | 61.093.149 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PSVTV | 7.868 | 42.172 | | 50.040 | | 50.040 | | PSV | 21.044 | 46.350 | 9.712 | 940.854 | 612.530 | 2.071.679 | | 3DSLL | 63.709 | 47.852 | 101.667 | 2.726.076 | 1.237.738 | 4.816.447 | | 3DS | 20.797 | 22.250 | 60.410 | 1.306.463 | 2.900.590 | 8.995.972 | | PSP | 3.546 | 4.353 | 16.903 | 404.060 | 723.274 | 19.857.084 | Wii U with Mario & Taiko no Tatsujin barely moved. Vita TV looks dead already but never did quite understand why people thought this was going to be big. 3DS got a nice boost with One Piece. When does the console become the problem in all this? It seems no matter what games are released people just do not want the Wii U. Edited November 27, 2013 by liger05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 I never expected Vita TV to do big figures as it appeals to a very niche audience. Having said that, I hope it comes out over here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei needs to be released on the 3DS. Forget the Wii U. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei needs to be released on the 3DS. Forget the Wii U. Yeah, that'll help the Wii U to sell. What they need to do is shift titles to the Wii U, not away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Yeah, that'll help the Wii U to sell. What they need to do is shift titles to the Wii U, not away. The game will bomb on the Wii U. The Wii U may need it but it will perform a lot better on the 3DS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Someone posted this on GAF...puts things into perspective a little GCN before Sunshine: 8.242 GCN Sunshine Launch: 31.750 Wii before Galaxy: 34.766 Wii Galaxy Launch: 40.836 Wii before Galaxy 2: 17.870 Wii Galaxy 2 Launch: 21.304 Wii U before 3D World: 14.006 Wii U 3D World Launch: 20.177 Famitsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 The game will bomb on the Wii U. The Wii U may need it but it will perform a lot better on the 3DS. Wouldn't be surprised if Atlus were seriously thinking about switching it to 3DS. Wii U is Done! Consumers are not interested in the console. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if Atlus were seriously thinking about switching it to 3DS. Wii U is Done! Consumers are not interested in the console. Not Atlus' decision. Nintendo is financing it so they dictate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Someone posted this on GAF...puts things into perspective a little GCN before Sunshine: 8.242 GCN Sunshine Launch: 31.750 Wii before Galaxy: 34.766 Wii Galaxy Launch: 40.836 Wii before Galaxy 2: 17.870 Wii Galaxy 2 Launch: 21.304 Wii U before 3D World: 14.006 Wii U 3D World Launch: 20.177 Famitsu It does but its not like there were any titles before Mario 3D or any other titles on the horizon which will move hardware. It seems that no matter what game is released the effect on hardware sales is minimal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Someone posted this on GAF...puts things into perspective a little GCN before Sunshine: 8.242 GCN Sunshine Launch: 31.750 Wii before Galaxy: 34.766 Wii Galaxy Launch: 40.836 Wii before Galaxy 2: 17.870 Wii Galaxy 2 Launch: 21.304 Wii U before 3D World: 14.006 Wii U 3D World Launch: 20.177 Famitsu I'm not sure what this is supposed to show. How many consoles were sold the week before and of a Mario game launch? If so, to look at it in isolation is misguided. What else is out there, the time of year, overall console sales and trend (ie is it generally on the up, in a rough patch, staying steady), console price, sales leading up to etc all play a role. Just saying "it did this one week and this the next" doesn't really show anything. Edited November 27, 2013 by Ashley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 I always thought that Sony isn't releasing the PS4 in Japan until 2014 simply because they don't need to. The Xbox One won't be out there to compete with, and the PS4 will do well in Japan regardless of when its released, so they can put their efforts (and consoles) into other territories. Yeah that's pretty much what I thought. Xbox has literally no presence/people don't care for it in Japan. They can release it there when they want really; Wii U is the only other console and that offers something completely different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Yeah, that'll help the Wii U to sell. I don't know man. Sure, you've got a hardcore following for both franchises, but once the units have sold, that's it, it wont continue afterwards unless they go on a multiple-demographic blitz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 I don't know man. Sure, you've got a hardcore following for both franchises, but once the units have sold, that's it, it wont continue afterwards unless they go on a multiple-demographic blitz. i personally think it should have been a 3DS title from Day 1. What about Smash Bros. The 3DS version is really gonna suck them Wii U sales thats for sure. I honestly dont see what nintendo can do to dig the Wii U out of this hole. People say more advertising but that is not the reason it is not selling. You can advertise all you want but if people do not have any desire for it then your screwed. Blackberry with the Z10 should show people that blitz marketing is not the savior to problems. I think nintendo released a console that nobody wants. The lack of power in the machine is a problem and it has come back to bite. 8 years on and games are looking like previous Generation. Sorry guys but that was never gonna work again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 Whether it's new software or hardware bundles people are just not interested. The core gamer ha ignored it. The casual audience from the wii has ignored it. What's next? Time to pour a 40 on it I think. I'm curious to know you the actual wii u playing install base is in Japan. I really do wonder how many have been traded in as the software sales just give the impression that there are less than the 1 mil units sold actually active. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2013 The sad thing is that it seems like the Wii U install base has ignored Super Mario 3D World. Okay the game may not have sold consoles but @ the very least you would expect current Wii U owners to buy the game for sure. Are Wii U owners just now not actually bothered about the console they own or like liger said, have they traded in there machines. Maybe the 3DS has just killed Wii U's appeal. 3DS has all the quality Nintendo games and has the big and small 3rd parties on board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2013 Look, I love the gamepad, but it just wasn't needed. Wii 2 should have come with a better wii-mote and nunchuk with Wii Sports 2 and a proper Mario at launch. Make the console as powerful as possible and sell it for $249. Boom. They retain their USP from the last generation (motion controls), whilst making the console more 'future proof' spec wise. At a price like that it would easily take the limelight away from the XBOne and the PS4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2013 It makes me wonder how Nintendo will follow up the 3DS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2013 With the 2DS! I'm actually not sure what they plan to do next. Who knows. Maybe they'll go Vita and just make it a portable Wii? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Not a good result at all Mario did 100k (which is more than I expected), Wii U only did 20k. I honestly don't get why people are refusing to buy the Wii U. This sums up exactly why you shouldn't be posting and arguing with people in this thread - you don't understand what's going on. Someone posted this on GAF...puts things into perspective a little GCN before Sunshine: 8.242 GCN Sunshine Launch: 31.750 Wii before Galaxy: 34.766 Wii Galaxy Launch: 40.836 Wii before Galaxy 2: 17.870 Wii Galaxy 2 Launch: 21.304 Wii U before 3D World: 14.006 Wii U 3D World Launch: 20.177 Famitsu This is what? Week on week sales? LTD sales? Number of consoles sitting on shelves? Nice set of figures lacking context there. What about Smash Bros. The 3DS version is really gonna suck them Wii U sales thats for sure. I'm very interested to see what SSB4 does in the market. Will 3Ds sales suck from Wii U? Will Wii U sales go up? What proportion of people will get the Wii U version compared to the 3DS version? It's going to be really nice to see how that game affects both consoles at the same time. The sad thing is that it seems like the Wii U install base has ignored Super Mario 3D World. Okay the game may not have sold consoles but @ the very least you would expect current Wii U owners to buy the game for sure. Are Wii U owners just now not actually bothered about the console they own or like liger said, have they traded in there machines. Maybe the 3DS has just killed Wii U's appeal. 3DS has all the quality Nintendo games and has the big and small 3rd parties on board. I'm a little surprised, but as a Wii U owner with little interest in it atm, not too surprised. Edited November 28, 2013 by Rummy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2013 It makes me wonder how Nintendo will follow up the 3DS. Back to the game boy brand and single screen and looking to sell at no more that £199 but if possible £150-£179. The Vita and the 3DS at its launch price has showed the market has no interest in a dedicated handheld retailing for more than £200 and has no interest in a high spec handheld either. The next Nintendo handheld for me just needs a 720p screen and specs a bit more powerful than the Vita. 3D can go and as I said most important is hitting that sub £200 price point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2013 This sums up exactly why you shouldn't be posting and arguing with people in this thread - you don't understand what's going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
