Dante Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 According to scientists. For the female half of the population, it may bring a satisfied smile. Scientists have found that evolution is driving women to become ever more beautiful, while men remain as aesthetically unappealing as their caveman ancestors. The researchers have found beautiful women have more children than their plainer counterparts and that a higher proportion of those children are female. Those daughters, once adult, also tend to be attractive and so repeat the pattern. Over generations, the scientists argue, this has led to women becoming steadily more aesthetically pleasing, a “beauty race” that is still on. The findings have emerged from a series of studies of physical attractiveness and its links to reproductive success in humans. In a study released last week, Markus Jokela, a researcher at the University of Helsinki, found beautiful women had up to 16% more children than their plainer counterparts. He used data gathered in America, in which 1,244 women and 997 men were followed through four decades of life. Their attractiveness was assessed from photographs taken during the study, which also collected data on the number of children they had. This builds on previous work by Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics, who found that good-looking parents were far more likely to conceive daughters. He suggested this was an evolutionary strategy subtly programmed into human DNA. He cited two findings from the Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, a US government-backed study that is monitoring more than 15,000 Americans. The measurements include objective assessments of physical attractiveness. One finding was that women were generally regarded by both sexes as more aesthetically appealing than men. The other was that the most attractive parents were 26% less likely to have sons. Kanazawa said: “Physical attractiveness is a highly heritable trait, which disproportionately increases the reproductive success of daughters much more than that of sons. “If more attractive parents have more daughters and if physical attractiveness is heritable, it logically follows that women over many generations gradually become more physically attractive on average than men.” In men, by contrast, good looks appear to count for little, with handsome men being no more successful than others in terms of numbers of children. This means there has been little pressure for men’s appearance to evolve. The findings coincide with the bicentenary of the birth of Charles Darwin, whose theory of evolution first described the forces that shape all species. Even he, however, might have been surprised by the subtlety of the effects now being detected by researchers looking into human mating. The heritability of attractiveness is widely accepted. When Elizabeth Jagger became a model, her mother, the former model Jerry Hall, said: “It’s in her genes.” Women may take consolation in the finding that men are subject to other types of evolutionary pressure. Gayle Brewer, a psychology lecturer at the University of Central Lancashire, said: “Men and women seek different things in their partners. “For women, looks are much less important in a man than his ability to look after her when she is pregnant and nursing, periods when women are vulnerable to predators. Historically this has meant rich men tend to have more wives and many children. So the pressure is on men to be successful.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.C.G Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 And who are scientists to determine who is 'beautiful' and who is 'plain'? It's entirely subjective... there are a lot of generalisations in that article that I'm sure many - including myself - don't agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Dare Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 So: scientists have worked out that pretty people get laid more and have pretty children? fuck me! Science, eh? Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 It's annoying when people get paid to do simple stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakhangsari Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I do not about others, but that's good news for me. Oh my, the world will be such a wonderful place where you will only see beautiful girls all around. That will be a heaven like place. The good thing is that there will be more girls per guy, so a guy has got better chance of ............ you know lol!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 LOL!!!!! EYAH I know I cant wait eitver. You excited 2 dante?!? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkatronics Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 LOLOL i wanna time macheyne so i cn go there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 There goes your chances then Dante. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tissuetown Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 When I see such lucious erotic beauties such as nightwolf, eenuh and the magic buttons girl. I have to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Well that's a load of bollocks. Chavs are having way more kids than other people, and they tend to be dog ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellyn Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 It's annoying when people get paid to do simple stuff like this. "You know, if we really put our minds to it we could use this government funding to discover some really important breakthroughs in the treatment and prevention of cancer." "We could... or we could go play Frisbee, then come back and scientifically prove that beautiful people have a higher chance of getting laid than plainer people!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwolf Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 When I see such lucious erotic beauties such as nightwolf, eenuh and the magic buttons girl. I have to agree. HUH?! Women to me just seem to be grabbing the make-up bag more, natural beauties don't seem to exsist. Hmmf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh64 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 How can they rate how beautiful someone is. And like a lot of you have said, it's fairly obvious that if your better looking you will end up with more kids or basically - get more sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 LOL!!!!! EYAH I know I cant wait eitver. You excited 2 dante?!? LOL! Eh no. There goes your chances then Dante. Noes! "You know, if we really put our minds to it we could use this government funding to discover some really important breakthroughs in the treatment and prevention of cancer." "We could... or we could go play Frisbee, then come back and scientifically prove that beautiful people have a higher chance of getting laid than plainer people!" Yeah it did happen just that. HUH?! Women to me just seem to be grabbing the make-up bag more, natural beauties don't seem to exists. Hmmf. Maybe that because girls put to much make-up on and fake tan on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.C.G Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Maybe that because girls put to much make-up on and fake tan on. Not all girls do though, see that's the difference, there are too many generalisations but yes the ones that do put waaaaaay too much fake tan on - to the point of being comparable to Orange Tango - look pretty bad... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwolf Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Not all girls do though, see that's the difference, there are too many generalisations but yes the ones that do put waaaaaay too much fake tan on - to the point of being comparable to Orange Tango - look pretty bad... :/ Well there's that, but have you seen the pressue on women lately? Oh don't get me wrong men get alot of crap pushed their way now, they must moisturise, they must be shaved etc etc. Its all bull, but people still buy into it and look RIDICULOUS. Yeah I hate that kinda thing, I rarely wear make-up and I wear what I want ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenuh Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Well there's that, but have you seen the pressue on women lately? Oh don't get me wrong men get alot of crap pushed their way now, they must moisturise, they must be shaved etc etc. Its all bull, but people still buy into it and look RIDICULOUS. Yeah I hate that kinda thing, I rarely wear make-up and I wear what I want ^_^ Yes! Too much pressure! D: Haha but I don't even know how to properly put on make-up (never had anyone to show meeee), so I'm a bit limited in my choices. =P But yeah, just read this in the newspaper too. It's a bit weird, as there are lots of "non-beautiful" families out there with lots and lots of kids. Though I guess the thing is they'd be more likely to get sons then instead of daughters? Wait, does that mean my mom is considered "beautiful" cause she got three daughters? O.o *confused* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blender Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) It's annoying when people get paid to do simple stuff like this. it more annoying that they "claim" to be scientists... remember, we are the ones paying for most science. That money should be spent on helicopters for are boys in yellow How can they rate how beautiful someone is.And like a lot of you have said, it's fairly obvious that if your better looking you will end up with more kids or basically - get more sex. usually, its based on metrics like 1) symetrical features... 2) "averaged looks" - so mixed raced people tend to do well. ETC.. 3) the results of surveys to produce stereotypes.. However, you can just pick the metric that brings about the conclusion you want. it's fairly obvious that if your better looking you will end up with more kids or basically - get more sex. I am sure there is a study on how every one is getting taller. Tall men get more sex and small men get into more fights. but this study is semi-interesting becasue it says something about molecular level happings...... The other was that the most attractive parents were 26% less likely to have sons. This is interesting. It means that good looking people commit infanticide if they have a daughter or maybe something more pro-found at the chemical level.... in the miracle of life.... but then again evolution doesnt exist as it was all gods choice Edited July 27, 2009 by blender Automerged Doublepost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raining_again Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 When I see such lucious erotic beauties such as nightwolf, eenuh and the magic buttons girl. I have to agree. I'm actually relieved to see that my name wasnt included in this little statement! Well there's that, but have you seen the pressue on women lately? Oh don't get me wrong men get alot of crap pushed their way now, they must moisturise, they must be shaved etc etc. Its all bull, but people still buy into it and look RIDICULOUS. Yeah I hate that kinda thing, I rarely wear make-up and I wear what I want ^_^ I think this is a very fair point. Mags like nuts and zoo do nothing for NORMAL female image. Yes! Too much pressure! D: Haha but I don't even know how to properly put on make-up (never had anyone to show meeee), so I'm a bit limited in my choices. =P I've never worn a face full of slap. Wouldn't have a clue and have very little interest in wearing it on a daily basis. Shouldn't feel like you have to! besides, Ine, you are stunning anyway! also just another point, beauty is subjective, eye of the beholder and all that shiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwolf Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Specially boobs, did you see the sex education show? Most teenage boys say the perfect pair is fake and thats what they believe every girl should have and dismissed all others. It makes you realise how unperfect you are, hah. I don't think I have the effort to make my hair perfect and flawless make-up everyday, women like that spend way too much time in the bathroom and not enough time outside, I know women who won't go to the shops (like sainsburies) without a full face of slap..argh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Yes! Too much pressure! D: Haha but I don't even know how to properly put on make-up (never had anyone to show meeee), so I'm a bit limited in my choices. =P But yeah, just read this in the newspaper too. It's a bit weird, as there are lots of "non-beautiful" families out there with lots and lots of kids. Though I guess the thing is they'd be more likely to get sons then instead of daughters? Wait, does that mean my mom is considered "beautiful" cause she got three daughters? O.o *confused* Does Cindy Crawford son confuse you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raining_again Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Specially boobs, did you see the sex education show? Most teenage boys say the perfect pair is fake and thats what they believe every girl should have and dismissed all others. It makes you realise how unperfect you are, hah. I don't think I have the effort to make my hair perfect and flawless make-up everyday, women like that spend way too much time in the bathroom and not enough time outside, I know women who won't go to the shops (like sainsburies) without a full face of slap..argh. oh lord i remember that! Every single one of them favoured the faked boobs. Really does very little for confidence! Now I have to go get a boob job to be accepted by men? Fuck that shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Specially boobs, did you see the sex education show? Most teenage boys say the perfect pair is fake and thats what they believe every girl should have and dismissed all others. Was that on Ch5 or Ch4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caris Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 What a great thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) oh lord i remember that! Every single one of them favoured the faked boobs. Really does very little for confidence! Now I have to go get a boob job to be accepted by men? Fuck that shit. Not for me Raining. Edited July 27, 2009 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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