What Have I Doooone Wrooooong?

[Fierce_LiNk]

Ok, I basically have a problem relating to money and friends. Just to let you know, this is a long story, so only enter if you're prepared to read a lot, otherwise it won't make sense.

 

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I bought a new suit for my graduation ball, and it cost me around £110, which is not exactly cash that I have, since I'm pretty skint 99% of the time. Still, I forked out for a new suit because I thought it would be good for the graduation, and any subsequent interviews and such afterwards.

 

At the ball, you choose where you sit in advance, and I chose next to sit to my housemate Jack and his friend Ollie. During the ball, I took off my jacket and placed it on the back of my seat, so that I could go off and dance somewhere. When I came back, I noticed that Jack and Ollie's jackets were still there, but mine had gone. I asked Ollie if he had seen mine, and he said no, and I asked Jack, and he said no, too. Nobody had noticed that it had suddenly gone, despite only being a few feet away.

 

Me and a few friends stayed til the very end of the ball, and my friend Cerys noticed that a jacket was left behind. So, drunkenly, she picked it up. I told her that I didn't think she should do that, and it should be left for lost property, because we didn't know who it belonged to. But, whilst under the influence, she thought that it would make a replacement for mine, because "obviously the person who had taken mine had left theirs behind," as she said.

 

So, I carry on with life, jacketless. The jacket that Cerys had picked up remained in her room. Then, the day before I leave Brighton, Jack and Cerys come up to my room, and give me back my jacket. Basically, Ollie's friend Seb had taken my jacket by mistake, and was now giving it back after Cerys got on the case and tracked it down. There was a voucher in the inside pocket that I had won in the raffle, so that was a give-away.

 

The next day, Jack and I were leaving Brighton. Jack tells me to text him when I was going around to Ollie's to give him back the jacket. So, I text Jack, and walk around to Ollie's, which is in the next road over. He is not there. Knowing that I have to leave that day, I go back to the house, and tell the girls that Ollie wasn't at his house, and leave the jacket with them.

 

About 3 days after leaving, Ollie facebooks me, and I reply with this message:

 

Hey dude, cheers for helping finding my jacket! I was pretty gutted when I couldn't find it. I left Brighton last Sunday afternoon, and gave your house a little knock on the way, but there was no answer. I looked like a right tart saying my goodbyes, trying to drop off the jacket, then going back to the house to put the jacket back, hehe.

 

I left the jacket in the house with the girls and let them know there was no one home when I tried to drop it back. So, its either back in the house, or one of them may have it, I think."

 

I send him that message, and he doesn't reply. A few weeks pass, and he asks me the same thing as before: "Am I coming around with the jacket?"

 

I tell him that I already sent the message, and that he should try contracting the girls. He replies with: "Cerys isn't replying."

 

I contact Cerys and Siobhan, the housemates and they tell me that they've now moved out. They were staying there for 2 weeks longer than me, but weren't there anymore. I ask about the jacket, and they tell me that the jacket must have been given to the charity shop, with the rest of the left-over stuff. They both say that Ollie should have come around to claim it, but he didn't.

 

So, now, I send a message to Ollie on facebook:

 

Hey man, I messaged you before about coming around to your place before I left for home, and then you weren't there so I took the jacket back to the house in the hope you or the girls would have sorted it out.

 

Just got into contact with the girls to find out what happened to it, and it turns out that everyone had forgotten about it, as they were pre-occupied with moving out, getting work signed off and taking exams. I think maybe they were expecting someone to come to the house to pick it up, too. They piled any left-over stuff together and put the lot in a bag and popped it off to the charity shop.

 

Sorry about this, the girls and I feel pretty bad about it. x x

 

Ollie replies with: You should hace sorted it out before you went back and I did not arrange to come and pick it up anytime, You were meant to give it to Jack to bring round and he popped round a few times. Well thats not really on as Seb got your jacket back to you. He had just bought that jacket for the ball for £70 and would like to be reimbursed as you gave it away, so can you transfer the money into his account soon as he needs to buy a new jacket for his event next week

 

Ok, just to set a few things straight:

 

1. I didn't take the jacket from the ball - Cerys did. Cerys picked it up, after I had told her to hand it into lost property at the hotel.

 

2. Jack told me on the day that he left to text him when I was going around to yours, and to go around there to hand in the jacket. He told me about an hour before he left, and we were leaving Brighton on the same day. I did exactly that - I texted Jack, and I came around to your place, but you were not there. So, I took the jacket back to the house, in the hope that it would have been sorted out between you, Siobhan and Cerys.

 

3. I think it is pretty damn unfair to ask me to re-reimburse the money for the jacket when the big problem was that Seb took mine in the first place.I had spent £110 on a new suit for the ball, so I was pretty upset about that. I did not give away the jacket at all. When I sent you the message on here, (after you had asked me about the jacket), you, Cerys and Siobhan were all still in Brighton, and I was not. The jacket was still there, too.

 

As far as I knew, I had done exactly what I had been told. There's no telling whether or not the jacket from the ball is actually Seb's or not, since it was a random one picked up by Cerys. I did exactly as Jack said, I texted him, I went around to your place, and you weren't there. I think it's pretty unfair to ask me to fork out the £70 when this was not my fault.

 

Then, his reply:

 

Jim

 

It was your responsibilty to get Sebs jacket back to him, like it was Seb's responsibilty to get your jacket back to you. He could of kept your jacket and voucher for himself but gave them back to their owner. You shouldnt of "done what you were told", you should of known you had to get the jacket back. When you knocked on my door you could of posted the jacket thru the letterbox, or contacted me to arrange a time when someone was in. Why did you leave it till the day you were leaving? If you think its pretty damn unfair to pay the £70, its pretty damn unfair to give away Sebs jacket and loosing that money he paid for his jacket. If the girls threw away the jacket then maybe you can ask them to help you pay the £70.

 

Then: He could have kept the voucher? I'm grateful that he's a good person and not a thief.

 

I did what I was told because Jack told me on the day that I was leaving to pop around to yours to give the jacket back. We were leaving on the same day. I didn't get my jacket back from Jack until the night before I left. That is why it was not done by me sooner.

 

I didn't want to ruin the jacket by posting it through the letterbox, so I took it back to the house. The jacket was never in my possession, until that day when I took it around to yours. I left it with the girls because I knew that you only lived on the next road over, and that it would get sorted out best then. You could have gone around there?

 

To be honest, I don't even see how any of this is even my fault. I've outlined my reasons above and have also explained my reasons to Jack, and I'm angry that I'm being made to pay for something which isn't even my fault.

 

Just to add, but you knew I was leaving/had left Brighton anyway. Here is a message which I wrote on your wall a month ago:

 

"Hey dude, cheers for helping finding my jacket! I was pretty gutted when I couldn't find it. I left Brighton last Sunday afternoon, and gave your house a little knock on the way, but there was no answer. I looked like a right tart saying my goodbyes, trying to drop off the jacket, then going back to the house to put the jacket back, hehe.

 

I left the jacket in the house with the girls and let them know there was no one home when I tried to drop it back. So, its either back in the house, or one of them may have it, I think."

 

 

Then: You have just said this:

 

"I didn't get my jacket back from Jack until the night before I left. That is why it was not done by me sooner."

 

Which leads me to beleive you did not want to swap jackets until you had yours back which is very devious.

 

Thats my point he is not a thief and gave back you jacket and voucher.

 

Im afraid it is your fault as you took it upon yourself to take the jacket from the girls and swap them over to get your jacket back. You could of contacted Jack so he could then arrange a time for me to meet you. I arranged to get your jacket back to you and you should of arranged the same in reverse. Or as you didnt do this you should of left clear instructions with the girls to contact me and get it back to me rather than allow them to throw it away.

 

Seb is now left without a jacket and a £70 hole in his pocket.

 

Did you not read all of my message?

 

" The jacket was never in my possession, until that day when I took it around to yours."

 

I didn't touch the jacket until the day I took it back to you. It wasn't mine, and when Cerys picked it up at the ball, I told her to leave it for lost property, because we had no idea if it even belonged to the same person that took mine. How is that in any way devious?!

 

I don't understand what you're trying to get at. Are you trying to say that I'm a thief for "not wanting to swap jackets"? Devious? Come on now.

 

I took the jacket back to the house after trying to get it to you because I honestly thought that it would have got sorted out between you and the girls. When I facebook messaged you, I told you that the girls were in possession of the jacket, so you could have sorted it out with them directly? It was an honest mistake when it got put with the other leftover things in the house and then taken to the charity shop. Nobody meant for the jacket to be taken there, and due to the situation not being sorted out, they probably forgot. Like I have mentioned here, you knew that they had the jacket, so why didn't you go and collect it?

 

I am sorry that Seb is left without a jacket, but I don't think it is right that I need to fork out the money to pay for a new one when this is clearly not my fault.

 

What the Fuck Did I Do Wrooooong? I wanted a Total Recall reference in the title, but I didn't want to see swearing on the forum page.

 

That is as far as we have got. What the hell?

Edited July 5, 2009 by Fierce_LiNk

[Pit-Jr]

over a jacket? really?

[Ashley]

Urgh people are such knobs. I'm having similar problems with a so-called friend at the moment and money and it seems some people just can't comprehend something, no matter how many times you tell them, which is obviously the case here.

 

*manhugs*

 

I think the best solution would be to call Arnie. He can sort that motherfucker out. But as you said, you have no obligation with anything. Have you spoke to the girls as they are the ones who took the jacket, kept it until giving it to you, kept it afterwards and then gave it away (granted an honest mistake, as you say with moving and exams happening its entirely possible things like that could happen).

[S.C.G]

I would say that you did nothing wrong Flinkeh... it's a pretty crappy situation for you to be in :/ I hope it's able to be resolved somehow.

[Mr_Odwin]

You have your jacket? Just cut these douche bags out of your life. Seems like a waste of effort and typing to try and reason more.

Just send a "this is the last message you're getting from me" message where you say you're not handing over any money ever and they have no option but to deal with it.

[mcj metroid]

over a jacket? really?

 

I thought this too..

 

 

Am ... would you consider them to be good friends?

[Ramar]

Dickhead shouldn't have taken your jacket in the first place flink, tell the dude to get stuffed.

[Fierce_LiNk]

over a jacket? really?

 

Exactly, it's sad, and I feel bad that we're arguing over it. I am sorry that this guy doesn't have a jacket now, but...70 is money I don't have and money I don't even think I need to pay, as it wasn't my fault.

 

Urgh people are such knobs. I'm having similar problems with a so-called friend at the moment and money and it seems some people just can't comprehend something, no matter how many times you tell them, which is obviously the case here.

 

*manhugs*

 

I think the best solution would be to call Arnie. He can sort that motherfucker out. But as you said, you have no obligation with anything. Have you spoke to the girls as they are the ones who took the jacket, kept it until giving it to you, kept it afterwards and then gave it away (granted an honest mistake, as you say with moving and exams happening its entirely possible things like that could happen).

 

I've not spoken to the girls about it since they told me it was sent off to the charity shop. But, I did speak to Jack, and he's...kinda siding with Ollie.

[Rummy]

Jackets are srs business, especially to some people, especially when new. Dude puked up on my jacket once, he didn't even offer me money for the dry cleaning. I didn't even get to hit the bastard neither! Well, I did, but he was so fucked it would have just been hollow. True Story.

 

If I lost me a jacket that I cared enough about to get back, well, I'd go and get that mother back! Admittedly if I was in the possession of another jacket, I wouldn't give it back til I got mine back, not devious but just how I'd roll with it, who knows if I *would* get my jacket back, might as well get something out of it, ESPECIALLY if some other dickhead left with my jacket(actually happened to me once with some coats, never got mine back either). As for what you've done wrong...hmm, I'm not sure, I need to put myself in this situation a bit more first, one bit of your story totally confused which jacket was which and it totally fucked me over in my thinking cos I spent the rest trying to figure out what was what?

[Fierce_LiNk]

You have your jacket? Just cut these douche bags out of your life. Seems like a waste of effort and typing to try and reason more.

Just send a "this is the last message you're getting from me" message where you say you're not handing over any money ever and they have no option but to deal with it.

 

The thing is, they're actually making me feel bad about it all, because this guy Seb is missing a jacket, like I was. But, I just don't think it is my place to pay the money, because it's not my fault. :S

 

I thought this too..

 

 

Am ... would you consider them to be good friends?

 

Jack, yes, because he was my housemate. Ollie, I don't know him all that well, so didn't have an opinion of him before all of this. He's getting on my fucking nerves, though.

 

Dickhead shouldn't have taken your jacket in the first place flink, tell the dude to get stuffed.

 

I really, really want to be rude to him, but I guess I'm trying to be polite to get it solved decently, but it isn't going well. Hmm.

 

Jackets are srs business, especially to some people, especially when new. Dude puked up on my jacket once, he didn't even offer me money for the dry cleaning. I didn't even get to hit the bastard neither! Well, I did, but he was so fucked it would have just been hollow. True Story.

 

If I lost me a jacket that I cared enough about to get back, well, I'd go and get that mother back! Admittedly if I was in the possession of another jacket, I wouldn't give it back til I got mine back, not devious but just how I'd roll with it, who knows if I *would* get my jacket back, might as well get something out of it, ESPECIALLY if some other dickhead left with my jacket(actually happened to me once with some coats, never got mine back either). As for what you've done wrong...hmm, I'm not sure, I need to put myself in this situation a bit more first, one bit of your story totally confused which jacket was which and it totally fucked me over in my thinking cos I spent the rest trying to figure out what was what?

 

Which bit confused you, dude?

[Mr_Odwin]

The thing is, they're actually making me feel bad about it all, because this guy Seb is missing a jacket, like I was. But, I just don't think it is my place to pay the money, because it's not my fault. :S

 

 

Exactly, so just cut short all the to and fro, and just outright deny these guys anything. Let the guilt go, it's not your fault! You've done all that you should.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Exactly, so just cut short all the to and fro, and just outright deny these guys anything. Let the guilt go, it's not your fault! You've done all that you should.

 

I know I'm going to see Jack and Ollie at the Graduation Ceremony at the end of the month, and Jack is asking me if I'm going to give money, as well. I'm being pressured to do it, I know I shouldn't do it, but at the same time I will feel bad myself if I don't...I guess I just don't want to piss off people.

[Jon]

My god, it's like he is comparing his Jacket to pet or a small African child. Silence this fools Flink. Not worth worrying about, don't need friends like that

[Mr_Odwin]

Don't take any cash with you. Or debit cards or anything.

This making me furious Flinky, please don't make me furious.

[mcj metroid]

It's never easy to just let friends go... but this guy is really laying into you over a jacket. I've had similiar experiences with people and I always just end up getting bitter.

 

Suppose it's true people should never mix money with friendship..

[Rummy]

Why were you texting jack when you were going round to Ollie's, and not contacting Ollie?

 

Why did you go back and leave it with the girls if Jack is your housemate and Ollie's friend, why did you not leave it with him?

 

When you say you sent a message, facebook or text?

 

How do you actually pronounce Cerys?

 

Do you honestly feel no fault at all here? Despite taking the jacket into your care for a short while in order to attempt to drop it round to Ollie's(which he actually only knows cos you told him).

 

Did you know that the jacket was Seb's before you actually physically got your jacket back?

 

Have you considered it's quite a serious sum of money for a group of people who are really probably quite poor? Have you imagined yourself in the situation the other way round?

 

Why is Jack involved, and why is Ollie involved(to some extent), why are you not talking to Seb if this is such an issue and have you tried? Would you be willing to split some cost with him 50/50 or some such?

 

Do you think it was sensible to put so much faith in all these people? A message to Ollie, a brief word to the people who you left the jacket with, did you not consider it might be worth chasing everyone up to make sure the jacket was returned/collected in good time?

 

What are the implications of not paying anything for the jacket/admitting fault? Are you gonna see these people again? Are they good friends of yours? Are they...dispensable?

 

Have you been made aware that if you need cheering up/distraction, pretty much all of Desmonds is now online at 4oD?

 

 

I realise it's alot of questions, tbh it isn't written in a very friendly or helpful way, I was writing those as they came to mind and cannae be bothered to go phrase it all properly, but I'm not taking any actual sides yet, I'm kind of seeing it from both and I dunno what I'd do in that...

Edited July 5, 2009 by Rummy

[mcj metroid]

 

Jim

When you knocked on my door you could of posted the jacket thru the letterbox, or contacted me to arrange a time when someone was in. ?

 

1:this very line is fail.. Who the fuck posts a jacket through a letterbox?.. if he is SO concerned about his friends jacket then he would care about how wrecked it would have been if you squashed it through a letterbox..

 

2: contacted him? the very person who doesn't seem to actually reply to anything?

 

No Man you are totally right to be concerned here.. But it seems like in my opinion that his friend Seb is pushing him into this... i can hear his point of view

" I gave him his so he can give me mine or my money back!"

 

out of curiosity are you friends with this seb?

[Deathjam]

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE do not pay that £70. Im a stranger, so my opinion may not count, but then because I am a stranger who has no ties, it may be all the more important. Stand your ground. Really, you were just in the middle, and for some reason, I think they reckon they could get the money out of you rather than the girls and especially this Cerys (like Rummy says, how do you pronounce that name?) who is ultimately responsible. Geez why did she have to take it in the first place. Reminds me of some of the annoying antics my old housemates used to get up to for nor good reason, and ended up causing trouble for me. It's not your fault so please don't let them take you for a ride.

 

P.S. A jacket?! All this over a jacket?!

[Raining_again]

Well to be fair I think I would be pretttty pissed if I was in that guys situation.

 

But no flinkeh, its not your fault at all, the girl that took it should be forking out. Not you. No way of contacting her?

[Fierce_LiNk]

Don't take any cash with you. Or debit cards or anything.

This making me furious Flinky, please don't make me furious.

 

Haha, that is my facebook status. I'm trying to be firm with this, and I think I've defended myself well so far.

 

It's never easy to just let friends go... but this guy is really laying into you over a jacket. I've had similiar experiences with people and I always just end up getting bitter.

 

Suppose it's true people should never mix money with friendship..

 

I do feel pretty bitter about this. And, whatever the outcome, my estimation in both Jack and Ollie has gone down.

 

Rummy, this will be a long post, so please forgive:

 

Why were you texting jack when you were going round to Ollie's, and not contacting Ollie?

 

I don't have Ollie's number, and me and him have never actually been good friends. Jack is the link between us two. When Jack gave me back the jacket, he told me where Ollie lived and asked me to let him (Jack) know when I was going around. Why he didn't go himself and give it to him, I have no fucking idea.

 

Why did you go back and leave it with the girls if Jack is your housemate and Ollie's friend, why did you not leave it with him?

 

I think I mentioned somewhere that me and Jack were leaving on the same day. Jack left first, and when he left he gave me Ollie's address and told me to message him when I was going there.

 

 

When you say you sent a message, facebook or text?

All the facebook messages have been documented on here. I assume you mean when I sent the message to Jack? That was done over text message, and I texted him letting him know that I was going around to Ollie's. The girls live with me and Jack. Well, lived.

 

How do you actually pronounce Cerys?

 

Haha. Well, it's like the singer Cerys Matthew.

Think of the word "Care" and then "is" at the in. Care-is. But, riss. "Careriss."

 

Do you honestly feel no fault at all here? Despite taking the jacket into your care for a short while in order to attempt to drop it round to Ollie's(which he actually only knows cos you told him).

 

I don't feel any fault, because I did what Jack asked of me, which was to take the jacket around there. Then, instead of taking the jacket back with me to Wales, I left it with the girls, because Ollie lives only around the corner.

 

I mean, he had the message on facebook to let him know that I tried popping around. He knew that the girls had the jacket, because that was included in the message. He could very easily have walked over there to ask for it.

 

Did you know that the jacket was Seb's before you actually physically got your jacket back?

 

Nope, because we don't actually know who the jacket belongs to. Cerys picked it up, despite me actually telling her to leave it for lost property/hand it in to reception at the hotel, where the graduation ball was set. Some days/weeks had passed between me losing my jacket and getting it back. In that time, Cerys kept hold of the jacket that she picked up. So, I didn't know a thing about it.

 

Have you considered it's quite a serious sum of money for a group of people who are really probably quite poor? Have you imagined yourself in the situation the other way round?

 

Definitely, and that's why I was gutted in the first place that my jacket had been taken. But, at the same time, if he was that poor and it mattered that much to him, why didn't he walk the street over from his house to ours to get it back? I feel bad and that's why I think maybe I should pay up...but then, if my jacket had never been recovered, I'd have to have forked out money for a new one, and I'm a bit reluctant to give the money when I don't even think this is something that is my fault.

 

Why is Jack involved, and why is Ollie involved(to some extent), why are you not talking to Seb if this is such an issue and have you tried? Would you be willing to split some cost with him 50/50 or some such?

 

You know, I don't even know who Seb is. All this talk about him, I'm pretty certain I've never even met him. Jack is on the same course as Ollie, and Seb is somebody who lives with them, I expect.

 

Honestly, I guess 50/50 would be fair. But, at the same time, I'd be losing 35 quid for something which still isn't my fault. I mean, is this my fault? Should I be parting with the money?

 

Do you think it was sensible to put so much faith in all these people? A message to Ollie, a brief word to the people who you left the jacket with, did you not consider it might be worth chasing everyone up to make sure the jacket was returned/collected in good time?

 

Well, I had left the message with Ollie so he knew where the jacket was. Infact, he knew about the jacket through Jack anyway...so he could quite easily have popped over there at any given time, but he didn't for whatever reason. Why that is, I don't know.

 

I thought I had done enough, and I did trust these people. They were my housemates, and they knew the guy, too. The fact that Ollie says he got into contact with Cerys and she didn't give him any reply is making me a bit suspicious about something.

 

What are the implications of not paying anything for the jacket/admitting fault? Are you gonna see these people again? Are they good friends of yours? Are they...dispensable?

 

I don't know the answer to the first question. I'm going to see them at Graduation Ceremony, so they will be there. Jack is a good friend, but then I'm not liking the whole feeling of pressure of accusation that is being thrown at me by him or Ollie. If I did pay them the money, to be honest I wouldn't be too much in a hurry to get into contact again in future, since this is leaving me feeling pretty humiliated.

 

Anything else that needs clearing up, just ask.

[EEVILMURRAY]

What the Fuck Did I Do Wrooooong?

YOU BLABBED QUAID!! You blabbed about Mars!

 

 

 

I must say, when I first started reading the story I had to check the post date, as I thought it was a bumped topic :S, but tis good to hear you got your jacket back. Few questions I may have missed the answers to:

 

You posted the thanks and lowdown message on his Facebook and the "weeks" pass, what was his excuse for not acting on this old information?

 

Is there any chance of tracking the charity shop it was carted off to?

[Haden]

Frankly you just need this image post it to the whiny loser.

 

[Kirkatronics]

That was lon, and thanks for colour coding it.

Id just tell them that you did what you could, andyour not doing anything else.

If they want the money, they'll have to get it elsewhere.

[Fierce_LiNk]

1:this very line is fail.. Who the fuck posts a jacket through a letterbox?.. if he is SO concerned about his friends jacket then he would care about how wrecked it would have been if you squashed it through a letterbox..

 

2: contacted him? the very person who doesn't seem to actually reply to anything?

 

No Man you are totally right to be concerned here.. But it seems like in my opinion that his friend Seb is pushing him into this... i can hear his point of view

" I gave him his so he can give me mine or my money back!"

 

out of curiosity are you friends with this seb?

 

That letterbox comment definitely caused me to do this o_O

 

I don't even know who the hell Seb is. For all he knows, this was never even the jacket he was missing.

 

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE do not pay that £70. Im a stranger, so my opinion may not count, but then because I am a stranger who has no ties, it may be all the more important. Stand your ground. Really, you were just in the middle, and for some reason, I think they reckon they could get the money out of you rather than the girls and especially this Cerys (like Rummy says, how do you pronounce that name?) who is ultimately responsible. Geez why did she have to take it in the first place. Reminds me of some of the annoying antics my old housemates used to get up to for nor good reason, and ended up causing trouble for me. It's not your fault so please don't let them take you for a ride.

 

P.S. A jacket?! All this over a jacket?!

 

I'm thinking back to that moment where she picked up the jacket at the ball and I told her not to, and I'm just thinking "why didn't she listen?!"

 

To be honest, I do feel like they are taking me for a ride. Not really happy with the way Ollie is badgering me to pay up, when he's not said a word to the other girls.

 

Well to be fair I think I would be pretttty pissed if I was in that guys situation.

 

But no flinkeh, its not your fault at all, the girl that took it should be forking out. Not you. No way of contacting her?

 

I do feel bad for the guy, and that would be the reason why I would pay up. I mean, a few weeks before that, it was me who would be forking out money for a new jacket, my new jacket.

 

YOU BLABBED QUAID!! You blabbed about Mars!

 

 

 

I must say, when I first started reading the story I had to check the post date, as I thought it was a bumped topic :S, but tis good to hear you got your jacket back. Few questions I may have missed the answers to:

 

You posted the thanks and lowdown message on his Facebook and the "weeks" pass, what was his excuse for not acting on this old information?

 

Is there any chance of tracking the charity shop it was carted off to?

 

Why didn't he act on the information? Again, I have no idea. If he hasn't mentioned it in the messages I've posted on here (all of the messages so far- posted in the first post) then there has been no reason given. For all I know, he was too fucking lazy to do it.

 

I could ask Siobhan which charity shop and then we could track it down that way. The funny thing is, he hasn't even asked about that, they've just asked me for the money.

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I think in this instance regardless Cery should be the one forking out, you stated that you only managed to get the jacket when you went to take it round, which in my opinion is pretty decent of you considering Cery took the damn thing in the first place despite you telling her otherwise.

 

I wouldn't pay, I would feel guilty, but I wouldn't, you didn't take the jacket and the only reason he's trying to force you to pay is because he gave you your jacket, its not your fault if he can't get off his arse and contact Cery to ask for the money; you asked the girls specifically to give them the jacket back, but they only put it in the charity shop.

 

All liability is on Cery, not you.