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[Fierce_LiNk]

They did exactly that to the Bond films. They're no longer Bond films. Bond should never be in love. Ever. He's a 2 dimentional womanising character who was totally suave and everything. There was nothing else needed. He should have totally snuck in to the baddies hideout using some rad gadgets and off a few lackies with a watch mounted laser whilst saying things like "looks like your time was up", "Time for you to clock out" or something equally as badass. But no, he went and played poker like a tool. The only gadget was a defibrillator in the car. And even then he rolled the car like a total bellend. Seriously, if you can roll an Aston Martin after steering one way, then the other, then the other again, you need to retake the spy exam. Or a fucking driving test.

 

Unless they've made him totally rad in the most recent film? I didn't watch that after Casino Royale.

 

Yeah, that's why, as good as Casino Royale is, it still isn't a patch on the classic Bond films. Still, it's an interesting take, but I think there's a tendency nowadays to over-think ideas, rather than keep them simple.

 

Alien 3 I quite like, but I resent the shit effects. The bit where it's running around the brown corridor near the end looks atrocious. And the pit of lava at the end look like it's from a cartoon.

 

It was an interesting way to take the series, and I appreciate it for that. Sometimes it seems a bit..silly? though.

 

Resurrection is a joy to watch. Actually makes me happy. It's so far removed from the other ones. It's enjoyable and pleasant a way to pass the time on a boring afternoon.

 

The lead/molten stuff is very bright towards the end, and on the whole the effects could probably be improved. But, I still think it's good at what it does. Scriptwise, I think its right up there with Alien.

 

Alien: Resurrection on the other hand...has an awful script. I can watch the film, but it's very hard to stomach. If you consider Alien3 to be silly at times, then what do you think about the Newborn? It's an interesting idea...but it's also terrible at the same time.

 

The Alien series should have been kept as a trilogy, and it ended nicely that way. Resurrection is a giant spanner in the works, an a fairly unwelcome one, imo.

[Chris the great]

They did exactly that to the Bond films. They're no longer Bond films. Bond should never be in love. Ever. He's a 2 dimentional womanising character who was totally suave and everything. There was nothing else needed. He should have totally snuck in to the baddies hideout using some rad gadgets and off a few lackies with a watch mounted laser whilst saying things like "looks like your time was up", "Time for you to clock out" or something equally as badass. But no, he went and played poker like a tool. The only gadget was a defibrillator in the car. And even then he rolled the car like a total bellend. Seriously, if you can roll an Aston Martin after steering one way, then the other, then the other again, you need to retake the spy exam. Or a fucking driving test.

 

Unless they've made him totally rad in the most recent film? I didn't watch that after Casino Royale.

 

actualy bond did fall in love in the whole bond mythology. he marries in on film, the spy who loved me, and is distraught at his wifes death by assassins. also, i belive in the casino royal novle he falls in love, and the loss is what makes him a womaniser, and alcoholic.

 

hes more like his old self in quantum of solice, but without the uber cheese.

[Fierce_LiNk]

actualy bond did fall in love in the whole bond mythology. he marries in on film, the spy who loved me, and is distraught at his wifes death by assassins. also, i belive in the casino royal novle he falls in love, and the loss is what makes him a womaniser, and alcoholic.

 

hes more like his old self in quantum of solice, but without the uber cheese.

 

I think the whole idea of Bond getting married in the Spy Who Loved Me was to show that can't ever have that life-style of a wife, kids and settling down, not with his job.

 

So, Casino Royale just felt like it was treading old ground, in my mind anyway.

[Oxigen_Waste]

First of all, Ressurection isn't even worth mentioning. 3 was a disappointment, but Ressurection was just plain awful.

 

As for Bond, don't be stupid goafer, Casino Royale is the best Bond's ever been since Goldfinger, and that's something the whole world pretty much unanimously agreed upon. Popular vote, the critics, the skeptics, even the counter culture, Casino Royale is up there with Goldfinger for best Bond ever.

[Chris the great]

I think the whole idea of Bond getting married in the Spy Who Loved Me was to show that can't ever have that life-style of a wife, kids and settling down, not with his job.

 

So, Casino Royale just felt like it was treading old ground, in my mind anyway.

 

but its the first on, or at least the first written

[Oxigen_Waste]

but its the first on, or at least the first written

 

Yup. Casino Royale was his first assignment.

[Fierce_LiNk]

First of all, Ressurection isn't even worth mentioning. 3 was a disappointment, but Ressurection was just plain awful.

 

As for Bond, don't be stupid goafer, Casino Royale is the best Bond's ever been since Goldfinger, and that's something the whole world pretty much unanimously agreed upon. Popular vote, the critics, the skeptics, even the counter culture, Casino Royale is up there with Goldfinger for best Bond ever.

 

You know, you've probably said there what a lot of Alien fans were thinking. 3 disappointed a lot of people, because it wasn't Aliens. It's not the most natural progression from Aliens. Infact, Alien3 is cruel.

 

The main character from Alien, Ellen Ripley, has her life taken away at the end.

Her new found family, Hicks and Newt, are killed in the opening few minutes, in an undignified and horrible way. She's left alone, and she knows that anyone she comes into contact with, she loses as a result of being involved with this Alien. She lost her daughter after being in the hypersleep for 57 years. Her original crewmates were killed, and even the majority of prisoners and staff on the planet in Alien3 are decimated. It's cruel, but that's why I like it, in a way.

 

Resurrection just goes against my image for the series, I think. It's very ordinary.

 

I think the reason that Casino Royale was so well accepted was down to the fact that the last few Bond films had been a bit of a disappointment. I do like The World is Not Enough, but Die Another Day was pretty much a letdown. New Bond = new expectations. I think that's what people were more excited now. You ask the majority of people "So, what happened in Casino Royale?" or "What was the plot?" and they won't have a fucking clue.

 

but its the first on, or at least the first written

 

Yeah, but that's why I think they maybe should have looked for a newer route when making the new Bond, rather than "going backwards" in a way.

[Goafer]

First of all, Ressurection isn't even worth mentioning. 3 was a disappointment, but Ressurection was just plain awful.

 

As for Bond, don't be stupid goafer, Casino Royale is the best Bond's ever been since Goldfinger, and that's something the whole world pretty much unanimously agreed upon. Popular vote, the critics, the skeptics, even the counter culture, Casino Royale is up there with Goldfinger for best Bond ever.

 

I still don't like it. I find poker massively boring. And at the one point that I thought there was going to be a badass car chase, he crashes like a special (as I mentioned earlier).

 

Oh and why on Gods green earth did that spacker at the beginning run up a crane? What was the best he hoped for? "Hmm, continue down the street, which could yield any number of escape routes, or climb a crain?". And then Bond blew up an embassy! Way to go you suave, subtle spy...hired goon more like.

 

And as for popular vote: Bob the Builder has had 2 number ones and Mr Blobby has had 1. I think that proves the popular vote is fallible.

[Paj!]

I wasn't saying Resurrection was good, just that I like it. In the way I like Batman & Robin. :p

 

The hybrid lab is one my favourite scenes, visually, in the franchise. I just like the designs of the creatures.

[Fierce_LiNk]

I wasn't saying Resurrection was good, just that I like it. In the way I like Batman & Robin. :p

 

The hybrid lab is one my favourite scenes, visually, in the franchise. I just like the designs of the creatures.

 

In that case, you're forgiven...a little. Only because you're alright.

 

See, I like the lab scene because the mercy that Ripley shows...Ripley is quite similar to that which she shows Dallas in the Alien: Director's Cut. It's a nice little nod. That's my favourite scene in the entire film.

[Paj!]

In that case, you're forgiven...a little. Only because you're alright.

 

See, I like the lab scene because the mercy that Ripley shows...Ripley is quite similar to that which she shows Dallas in the Alien: Director's Cut. It's a nice little nod. That's my favourite scene in the entire film.

 

Yeah. I liked that it referenced that scene.

[Dante]

 

I saw that too (and the original post), but didn't want to say anything.

 

What is so funny?

[jayseven]

Did you get out from the wrong side of the bed this morning?

 

I'm starting to think that someone's rotated my bed, because I swear I'm supposed to feel happier than this.

[Dante]

I'm starting to think that someone's rotated my bed, because I swear I'm supposed to feel happier than this.

 

Okay Mr Jay7. For myself I am feeling great.

[jayseven]

Then curse your non-spiralling bed.

[Dante]

Then curse your non-spiralling bed.

 

I would fall out from the top bunk if it started to spin.

[Oxigen_Waste]

I still don't like it. I find poker massively boring. And at the one point that I thought there was going to be a badass car chase, he crashes like a special (as I mentioned earlier).

 

So because the film is actually believable, it's worse? What?

 

Oh and why on Gods green earth did that spacker at the beginning run up a crane? What was the best he hoped for? "Hmm, continue down the street, which could yield any number of escape routes, or climb a crain?". And then Bond blew up an embassy! Way to go you suave, subtle spy...hired goon more like.

 

Agree about the crane. Thought the embassy bit made perfect sense, though. This is Bond before he became Bond.

 

And as for popular vote: Bob the Builder has had 2 number ones and Mr Blobby has had 1. I think that proves the popular vote is fallible.

 

Fuck popular vote. You need only take a look at imdb, which considers The Shawshank Redemption the best film ever made, and even if it is amazingly good, it's not even in the top 25.

 

 

 

As for the whole Predators thing, you're all stupid, it's not a damned remake... it's another entry in the franchise, it's a reboot, not a remake!

[Goafer]

So because the film is actually believable, it's worse? What?

 

Crashing a car like that is in no way believable. I could go into it, but it would be boring and I doubt anyone would care.

 

Any anyway, yes basically. The whole appeal of Bond films was that he was some ultra cool spy with some rad spy gadgets. His character was almost a joke, but it worked. Sure Casino Royal was more realistic (apart from the car crash), but I found it boring.

 

Edit: And you mentioned popular vote first.

[Oxigen_Waste]

Crashing a car like that is in no way believable. I could go into it, but it would be boring and I doubt anyone would care.

 

Any anyway, yes basically. The whole appeal of Bond films was that he was some ultra cool spy with some rad spy gadgets. His character was almost a joke, but it worked. Sure Casino Royal was more realistic (apart from the car crash), but I found it boring.

 

Edit: And you mentioned popular vote first.

 

It's 100 times more believable than not crashing it in an even more over the top way (like in every other Bond). As it was, he's just human and screws up. A lot. He's also a rookie.

 

You grew up watching bad bond movies, that's why you're saying that crap. If you go back and watch the true greats like Goldfinger or Dr. No, you'd see the character was actually much more than a gimmick, and Casino Royale finally brought that back! If what appealed to you in the bonds was the fact that they sucked, then yes, I can understand you being upset about Casino Royale, because it doesn't suck.

 

Also, I mentioned popular vote as part of the unanimousity that was the acclaim of Casino Royale, you're the one who took it out of context and chose to elaborate on wether or not it's trustworthy. All I was saying was that everybody agreed on it's quality, but somehow you only chose to pick on the popular vote, which is the only part which is completely irrelevant.

[Goafer]

It's 100 times more believable than not crashing it in an even more over the top way (like in every other Bond). As it was, he's just human and screws up. A lot. He's also a rookie.

 

It's not his part in the crash that I find unbelievable, it's the way the car rolls. An Aston Martin wouldn't roll like that. A 4x4 maybe, but not a sports car. Too much downforce, low centre of gravity, flat road (at the part where he rolls anway) etc. Told you it was boring!

 

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on Casino Royale then.

[Oxigen_Waste]

It's not his part in the crash that I find unbelievable, it's the way the car rolls. An Aston Martin wouldn't roll like that. A 4x4 maybe, but not a sports car. Too much downforce, low centre of gravity, flat road (at the part where he rolls anway) etc. Told you it was boring!

 

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on Casino Royale then.

 

Ah, well, yes, I'm ready to concede it's not possible. :p

I don't remember the crash very well, only that he suddenly flips the car.

 

Well, bye then.

[Dan_Dare]

Crashing a car like that is in no way believable. I could go into it, but it would be boring and I doubt anyone would care.

 

Any anyway, yes basically. The whole appeal of Bond films was that he was some ultra cool spy with some rad spy gadgets. His character was almost a joke, but it worked. Sure Casino Royal was more realistic (apart from the car crash), but I found it boring.

 

Edit: And you mentioned popular vote first.

 

personally I always found bond to be light weight and boring untill Casino Royale. With the exception of Goldeneye and some Dalton stuff, I don't really rate the old films.

[Nintendohnut]

The point, in my opinion, is this: James Bond films are about ridiculous threats to the earth, an arrogant man that you can't help but love, explosions, gadgets, sex with women who are mostly dead later, and pithy quips when someone dies.

 

I admit that Casino Royale and Quantum were both good action films, because you can't argue with that. But they were good actions films that might as well have been the Bourne series. They are very similar in style, and that's not a bad thing.

 

However, that is also NOT BOND. The point is that Bond isn't supposed to be about realism, grittyness or whatever. It never has been. It's about one maniac being stopped by a man in a tuxedo, usually feeding him to pet sharks/lions/piranahs and then having sex. That is Bond, not a fight scene then an emotion bit etc etc.

 

As I say, Casino Royale was a good film, but it wasn't a good Bond film. I have recently watch the entire series of Bond films (seriously - my friend bought the box set and we watched every single one - Lazenby was awesome) and they all have a similar, awesome formula. Casino Royale wasn't Bond, it was just a straight action film with the Bond name on it.

[Dante]

www.variety.com -

Twentieth Century Fox is set to close down Fox Atomic, the production label started by Peter Rice in 2007 to generate comedy and genre films. The division had been seen as vulnerable since its marketing arm was absorbed back into Fox and Fox Searchlight in January 2008.

 

Label head Debbie Liebling will return as an executive at 20th Century Fox, where she’ll continue to develop comedies and genre pics for co-presidents Alex Young and Emma Watts. The fate of the other executives will be decided next week.

 

Fox would not confirm the move, and speculation is that the division is being eliminated because it didn’t produce enough hits — and because its chief benefactor, Rice, was elevated to run Fox Broadcasting for Rupert Murdoch.

 

Fox Atomic was formed in January 2007 around former chief operating officer John Hegeman, now at New Regency, and Liebling, who as a Fox exec showed a flair for comedy on such Fox hits as "Borat" and "Dodgeball." Before that, she served as a producer on the "South Park" series and the 1999 feature film.

 

The label has had its name on such genre efforts as "28 Weeks Later," "The Hills Have Eyes II" and "Turistas" and on comedies such as "The Rocker," "The Comebacks," "Miss March" and "12 Rounds." Only a few were bona fide successes.

 

Atomic was hoping to make its biggest mark later this year with two potentially commercial films: the July 10 opener "I Love You, Beth Cooper," directed by Chris Columbus and starring Hayden Panettiere, and "Jennifer’s Body," the Diablo Cody-scripted, Karyn Kusama-directed horror film that stars Megan Fox and Amanda Seyfried. That film will be released Sept. 18.

 

Liebling has several other high-profile projects percolating, movies that presumably will move over the 20th. They include "28 Months Later," a continuation of the zombie franchise launched by director Danny Boyle, and "Accidentes," which Liebling bought as a pitch for a potential star vehicle for Sacha Baron Cohen to play an ambulance-chasing lawyer who becomes a working-class folk hero. Peter Baynham, who shared an Oscar nomination for scripting "Borat" with Baron Cohen, will write the screenplay, and Baron Cohen is overseeing the comedy as producer.

[ReZourceman]

"Comedy and genre films"

 

 

What? Someone wanna fill me in on what the fuck that means.