ArtMediocre Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 3080 all the way. Great value for the price, and will last for years!
Will Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I've been watching some YouTube videos and attempting to keep researching this, currently I'm looking at something like this. Two differences would be that I'll go for one of the new 3080 cards because it seems pretty great considering the price POINT. I also think I prefer the NZXT H1 case but it didn't seem to be listed there. What do you guys think? Anything I should reconsider before I continue on this path? I know there are other bits I need but these seemed like the ones I need to get locked down first.
Happenstance Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Does PCPartPicker take into account physical sizes? Just want to make sure that 2080 will fit. That was the problem I had and was why I went with the 2060 Super Mini in the end as I have an ITX mini tower case. One thing that’s also worth looking into is future proofing with usb c ports. 1
Nicktendo Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, will' said: I've been watching some YouTube videos and attempting to keep researching this, currently I'm looking at something like this. Two differences would be that I'll go for one of the new 3080 cards because it seems pretty great considering the price POINT. I also think I prefer the NZXT H1 case but it didn't seem to be listed there. What do you guys think? Anything I should reconsider before I continue on this path? I know there are other bits I need but these seemed like the ones I need to get locked down first. I think it looks decent, nice one! 2TB SSD drive is a great idea, I'd suggest getting a beefy regular one for movies, music etc. 4TB won't cost much these days but it's useful to have it for tons of small files and extra space if you need it. Also recommend adding a M2 drive to that for your OS, most used programs and a few select games as even that will be much better than an SSD with loading. 512gb would be more than enough for that and a few games on rotation. I have an NZXT case, and honestly, I wouldn't recommend them. Cable management is shit. Mine gets quite hot because they are designed to be "quiet" (i.e. bad cooling). They are not that quiet when the GPU is at full whack, so pretty redundant. Sturdy AF but doesn't really do what it advertises very well. I have a Radeon GPU though which generally runs hotter than a NVidia so you might be OK on that front. That processor is an absolute beast, I'm so jealous 1 hour ago, Happenstance said: One thing that’s also worth looking into is future proofing with usb c ports. Just had a look at that motherboard and it has two. Most of the ASUS ROG-Strix ones do. The graphics card will need to be ITX compatible, that's right. No way the standard 3080 will fit in that system. Might not be one available immediately after it launches so keep an eye out for any companies doing a mini version in the next few weeks / months. You might be waiting a while to be honest, given the size of the heat sink on the regular card. There's some dimensions of the different cards available here: Edited September 4, 2020 by Nicktendo 1
Ike Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 Dimensions for the Founder Editions are here: 3rd party cards might be different. 1
Will Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Happenstance said: Does PCPartPicker take into account physical sizes? Just want to make sure that 2080 will fit. That was the problem I had and was why I went with the 2060 Super Mini in the end as I have an ITX mini tower case. Good point. It seems that it does for graphics cards but not for some other things. Will keep in mind to use this as a starting point but fully check it out before I buy anything. 17 hours ago, Happenstance said: One thing that’s also worth looking into is future proofing with usb c ports. Definitely planning on doing this, seems the motherboard I’ve got down at the moment has some. 16 hours ago, Nicktendo said: 2TB SSD drive is a great idea, I'd suggest getting a beefy regular one for movies, music etc. 4TB won't cost much these days but it's useful to have it for tons of small files and extra space if you need it. Also recommend adding a M2 drive to that for your OS, most used programs and a few select games as even that will be much better than an SSD with loading. 512gb would be more than enough for that and a few games on rotation. Totally understand the concept of just having a massive drive to store other stuff on. Not sure I’ll need it but storage is always one of those things I wish I had more of. On the smaller M2 for the OS what is the difference between that and the SSD I have listed? Is it just the case of smaller is cheaper and it’s good to have a ridiculously fast drive for loading times? With rotating games is it just a case of drag and drop the files across or would it need more work? 16 hours ago, Nicktendo said: I have an NZXT case, and honestly, I wouldn't recommend them. Cable management is shit. Mine gets quite hot because they are designed to be "quiet" (i.e. bad cooling). They are not that quiet when the GPU is at full whack, so pretty redundant. Sturdy AF but doesn't really do what it advertises very well. I have a Radeon GPU though which generally runs hotter than a NVidia so you might be OK on that front. Good to know, I’ve been looking at a lot of videos of H1 builds and it’s right at the top of my wishlist. Will keep an eye out for anything that might improve the form factor. 16 hours ago, Nicktendo said: That processor is an absolute beast, I'm so jealous Great to know, I was worried I’d dropped too far from the top end stuff I looked at. A friend recommended an 8 core 16 thread intel CPU might be better for gaming as most stuff is designed to take advantage of the configuration better - any thoughts on that? 16 hours ago, Nicktendo said: The graphics card will need to be ITX compatible, that's right. No way the standard 3080 will fit in that system. Might not be one available immediately after it launches so keep an eye out for any companies doing a mini version in the next few weeks / months. You might be waiting a while to be honest, given the size of the heat sink on the regular card. Ah that’s a shame, will keep an eye on what happens with this. I’m OK to wait a while as I’m thinking I’ll just stick with a PS5 this year and get the PC early next. 11 hours ago, Ike said: 3rd party cards might be different. This 3rd party card stuff... How does it work? Other companies just buy the internals, repackage it and sell it on? What are the advantages and disadvantages of getting something direct vs the 3rd party versions? Do they end up with compatibility issues or are they generally the same thing?
Dufniall Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 9 hours ago, will' said: This 3rd party card stuff... How does it work? Other companies just buy the internals, repackage it and sell it on? What are the advantages and disadvantages of getting something direct vs the 3rd party versions? Do they end up with compatibility issues or are they generally the same thing? Basically what happens is Nvidia brings out the reference card, and says alright this is the new graphics card. Usually it is not the best performing/most quiet model. Other brands then get the PCB/chip and make their own versions. Some choose to put on quiet fans, others go for higher clock speed, or put out mini versions or water cooled versions of the card. I personally would never get the Nvidia reference model but go for a 3rd party one from for example Asus or MSI, as they are usually clocked faster and cooled better. 1
Will Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Vileplume2000 said: Basically what happens is Nvidia brings out the reference card, and says alright this is the new graphics card. Usually it is not the best performing/most quiet model. Other brands then get the PCB/chip and make their own versions. Some choose to put on quiet fans, others go for higher clock speed, or put out mini versions or water cooled versions of the card. I personally would never get the Nvidia reference model but go for a 3rd party one from for example Asus or MSI, as they are usually clocked faster and cooled better. Got it! Thanks, I feel like I’ve been learning a lot just looking into all of this stuff. With these new NVIDIA cards when should we expect to see 3rd party cards available? Is there a good reference site to check the differences between cards and pick out the one that’s most suited?
Dufniall Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 I'm not sure when, but we will probably see reviews pop up quite soon. I usually use a Dutch website who posted the line up of the brands without pricing: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/171676/fabrikanten-kondigen-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3000-videokaarten-aan.html I think this English site usually is also quite up to date with news, might be worth checking that from time to time: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-rtx-3080-and-rtx-3070-custom-model-pricing-in-uk 1
Ike Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Most of them should be available at the same time as the founder editions.
Dufniall Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 Apparently the embargo for reviews of the new NVIDIA series is September 14th, so I guess we'll be seeing a lot of news about them next week.
ArtMediocre Posted September 11, 2020 Posted September 11, 2020 Thanks for the heads up, @Vileplume2000. I'm glad that the embargo lifts a few days before the cards launch, because I'm not sure if I would've bought the cards going in blind (probably would've though...). It will be nice to see some actual numbers from youtubers and tech nerds.
S.C.G Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Digital Foundry showcase Graven on the PC, it's a modern day version of Hexen, which seems to be the next old-style FPS-type game to get a remake. Edited September 12, 2020 by S.C.G
ArtMediocre Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 4:52 PM, Vileplume2000 said: Apparently the embargo for reviews of the new NVIDIA series is September 14th, so I guess we'll be seeing a lot of news about them next week. Embargo got pushed to the 16th, so we have a full day of reviews before making a choice. 1
Ike Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Reminder that the 3080 cards should be available at 2pm(bst), so about an hour and half from time of posting.
ArtMediocre Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) I already have multiple tabs with GPUs open and ready for order, just to be sure I'll be able to snag one. The supply is supposedly really, really low, so the cards will most likely be sold out after a few minutes/hours, and resupply won't happen until around christmas. Just a heads up. Edited September 17, 2020 by ArtMediocre
Ike Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Went from notify to out of stock in 4 minutes. Never saw a buy button. Other sites seem to be down.
ArtMediocre Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I managed to snag two cards. A MSI Gaming Trio X and an ASUS TUF Gaming OC. Now I just need to figure out which is better (as I had no reviews beforehand), before selling the other one. Most likely at a bit of a higher cost, if I can (sorry)
ArtMediocre Posted September 20, 2020 Posted September 20, 2020 Aaand like everyone around, I have to wait for my cards. What a terrible launch . So few cards for so many buyers. A retailer here in Scandinavia is apparently having over 10.000 backorders, so I guess people will have to wait a while. My cards are due to be sent sometime next week, but I'll believe it when I get the shipping numbers. On the bright side, it looks like the affordable ASUS TUF Gaming is a really solid card! 1
drahkon Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 This is out now. Haven't heard of it before but it seems really cool Here's hoping it'll come out to more platforms eventually 2
Ike Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 Managed to order a 3070 FE, should be decent enough upgrade at least. Took like 30 minutes because the site wouldn't work sometimes.
Dufniall Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 Command & Conquer Remastered Collection is currently discounted on Steam, so I finally picked it up. Played one Red Alert skirmish and it's fun as always! Loved the old-school intro video of "installing" the game, and the graphical upgrade as well as the QoL upgrades are more than welcome if you see the old style! Will be a lot of fun replaying the campaigns.
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