Retro_Link Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 flameboy said: @Retro_Link pinnacle game profiler is really good and includes both xbox 360 and ps3 controller. It does however cost money but I gladly stumped up the cash.Just looking on that website now, am I right in thinking it says it's now free or? http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/
Sheikah Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Goron_3 said: Anyway, it's got me thinking about building a gaming PC. What is the best set up I could get for say £500? Of course, I'd be looking to upgrade it regularly but I think I just need a good starting point. Then there are these Steam machines which are tempting me, but I'm wondering if I could build it cheaper myself? (p.s. First ever post in the PC thread YEAHHHH). I've had a go at spec'ing a PC for you, I pretty much agree with Bard's suggestions, although I've opted for a few cheaper options to bring the price down (which still sits a little above your budget, but everything I've put here I couldn't really trim any more). This would be a really nice machine capable of running all games out now on very high: Case: AvP Defender 400 K2 USB 3.0 Mid Tower Case with 1x LED for PC - Black/Red (Amazon) £28.11 Reveal hidden contents Antec One Midi Tower Case - (Amazon) - £43. Antec make really good cases with good fan circulation, and this case has 2 front USB 3.0 ports as well as tool-less installation (ie. no screwdriver required to install hard drives/optical drives). Up to you if you want to switch with this. Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-HD3 Motherboard (Socket 1155, Z77 Express, DDR3, S-ATA 600, ATX) - (Amazon) - £67.81 ^ The cheapest Z77 1155 socket motherboard from a decent brand with favourable reviews I could find. Processor: Intel i5-3570K CPU (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155) - (Amazon) - £163.57 ^ The wallet always takes a hit with the processor...but you want this one since you can easily overclock it to get far more for your money. Graphics card: Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 7870 Dual-X 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card - (Amazon) - £132.14 ^ A really good price for this card. 1TB HDD: Western Digital 1TB internal Hard Drive - Caviar Blue (3.5 inch) - (Amazon) - £43.99 ^ Delete from the cost if you don't need it. Power supply: OCZ ZS Series 650W 80+ Bronze Power Supply - (dabs.com) - £54.99 ^ This is a pretty good price for the model. When it comes to power supplies you want one that's 80 Plus (ie. over 80% efficient) and from a decent company, so this one checks out. 650W should be more than enough for what you need. RAM: Crucial Sport 8GB RAM Kit (4GBx2), Ballistix 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-12800 - (Amazon) - £60.00 Processor Cooler: Hyper 212 EVO Processor Cooler- (Scan.co.uk) - £23.98 ^ The cooler that comes with the processor is gash. Get this one, it'll reduce the temperature a lot more effectively. There are some cheaper ones out there, but this one is much better at reducing temperature and well worth the money. All in all that costs £574.59. A bit above your budget, but I can't really get it lower without the PC basically being a fair bit worse/less future proof. I can tell you though, this will be a beast. It's nice when you build it yourself since you know what you're putting in is actually good stuff. At some point I highly recommend getting an SSD - even a 64GB/60GB will be enough since the primary reason is to just have it to install your OS onto it as well as commonly used programs (web browser, office programs, photoshop etc). This will make your PC boot and run incredibly fast as well as vastly speeding up the operation of the programs on the drive. This one is very affordable: Kingston 60GB Solid State Drive 2.5-inch SATA 3 with Adapter - (Amazon) - £39.45 (I'm also guessing you've got a DVD drive you can move over, but if not try this one for £12.98 off Amazon) (Second edit: For some reason my post wasn't displaying everything I wrote so I took some images out) Edited January 7, 2014 by Sheikah Automerged Doublepost
Deathjam Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Tales said: Internet recommend MotionInJoy but I couldn't figure out how to use it. This one below was easier to configure and use for me. Used it to play Rouge Legacy with my PS3 controller, making the game significantly easier to play. http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInput-Wrapper-for-DS3-and-Play-com-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller You use the charger cable to connect the PS3 controller to the laptop btw. And I don't know about Mac. Might be just for Windows for all I know. Don't use MotionInJoy. It has the potential to really screw with your drivers for other components and devices. But the other one you suggested works perfectly and is more seamless than motioninjoy ever was. Also has continuing support. Retro_Link said: Just looking on that website now, am I right in thinking it says it's now free or? http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/ It's not free.
Sheikah Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 I swear you said that before but I've never had a problem with MotionJoy. :p
Deathjam Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Sheikah said: I swear you said that before but I've never had a problem with MotionJoy. :p Yeah I did but just last week I continued to have problems even after uninstalling the motioninjoy. It would reinstall itself when I connected my iphone to my pc, killing the connection between itunes and my phone. I would literally watch windows install the driver when I inserted my phone and it took me a week to figure out and hours to resolve.
Goron_3 Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 The Bard said: Got Walking Dead Season 1 for me and my lady on your recommendation man, hope it's worf it! :p. As for PC, you'd want to go for something like this lot: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 Intel i5 3570k (4670k ain't worf it, doesn't overclock well and generally isn't as good for gaming as either the 3570k or the 2550k) Any good 750w PSU 8gb Ram 1tb Sata HD (If you want to spend an unnecessary amount of money, get an SSD, the load times are fucking outrageously good). Leaves you with about £140 for a GPU, which should be just a little under budget for something like a 7870 (Which is, incidentally quite similar to the PS4's GPU. Sheikah said: I've had a go at spec'ing a PC for you, I pretty much agree with Bard's suggestions, although I've opted for a few cheaper options to bring the price down (which still sits a little above your budget, but everything I've put here I couldn't really trim any more). This would be a really nice machine capable of running all games out now on very high: Case: AvP Defender 400 K2 USB 3.0 Mid Tower Case with 1x LED for PC - Black/Red (Amazon) £28.11 Reveal hidden contents Antec One Midi Tower Case - (Amazon) - £43. Antec make really good cases with good fan circulation, and this case has 2 front USB 3.0 ports as well as tool-less installation (ie. no screwdriver required to install hard drives/optical drives). Up to you if you want to switch with this. Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-HD3 Motherboard (Socket 1155, Z77 Express, DDR3, S-ATA 600, ATX) - (Amazon) - £67.81 ^ The cheapest Z77 1155 socket motherboard from a decent brand with favourable reviews I could find. Processor: Intel i5-3570K CPU (4 x 3.40GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155) - (Amazon) - £163.57 ^ The wallet always takes a hit with the processor...but you want this one since you can easily overclock it to get far more for your money. Graphics card: Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 7870 Dual-X 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card - (Amazon) - £132.14 ^ A really good price for this card. 1TB HDD: Western Digital 1TB internal Hard Drive - Caviar Blue (3.5 inch) - (Amazon) - £43.99 ^ Delete from the cost if you don't need it. Power supply: OCZ ZS Series 650W 80+ Bronze Power Supply - (dabs.com) - £54.99 ^ This is a pretty good price for the model. When it comes to power supplies you want one that's 80 Plus (ie. over 80% efficient) and from a decent company, so this one checks out. 650W should be more than enough for what you need. RAM: Crucial Sport 8GB RAM Kit (4GBx2), Ballistix 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-12800 - (Amazon) - £60.00 Processor Cooler: Hyper 212 EVO Processor Cooler- (Scan.co.uk) - £23.98 ^ The cooler that comes with the processor is gash. Get this one, it'll reduce the temperature a lot more effectively. There are some cheaper ones out there, but this one is much better at reducing temperature and well worth the money. All in all that costs £574.59. A bit above your budget, but I can't really get it lower without the PC basically being a fair bit worse/less future proof. I can tell you though, this will be a beast. It's nice when you build it yourself since you know what you're putting in is actually good stuff. At some point I highly recommend getting an SSD - even a 64GB/60GB will be enough since the primary reason is to just have it to install your OS onto it as well as commonly used programs (web browser, office programs, photoshop etc). This will make your PC boot and run incredibly fast as well as vastly speeding up the operation of the programs on the drive. This one is very affordable: Kingston 60GB Solid State Drive 2.5-inch SATA 3 with Adapter - (Amazon) - £39.45 (I'm also guessing you've got a DVD drive you can move over, but if not try this one for £12.98 off Amazon) (Second edit: For some reason my post wasn't displaying everything I wrote so I took some images out) Thanks a lot guys Much appreciated! Out of interest, how hard is it to actually build the damn thing? I'm a computer noob, would it be easy? OH! And Bard, enjoy the Walking Dead. Episode 2 still gives me goosebumps :') I've actually just restarted it (this time on my Macbook as opposed to that damn iPad), I forgot how much I hate Kenny
Happenstance Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Its not that hard and if you dont feel all too confident theres loads of text guides and Youtube videos that will pretty much explain it all./
Sheikah Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Pretty easy. You take the motherboard out of the box, then slot on the RAM, graphics card, processor, then splotch a bit of thermal paste on the top of the processor and place the processor cooler on top (followed by some screwing it in place on the board). Screw the motherboard into the designated holes on the case. Then you screw the PSU into place against the case. The Antec case has screwless installation so hard drives, DVD drives and SSDs don't need screwing in, just slotting. Then it's a case of hooking up cables supplied with your PSU from the PSU to individual drives and components (they're pretty clearly labeled).
Deathjam Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Reading the paperwork and manuals that come with the components is also very handy. Some things are colour coded and the most if not all motherboards have labeling that dictates what needs to be placed in that given slot. But the manual that comes with them is a great source of information.
Sheikah Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 To the Moon is on the Humble Bundle. No excuse guys... buy the bundle if you haven't already.
flameboy Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Retro_Link said: Just looking on that website now, am I right in thinking it says it's now free or? http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/ No it's free to download and has a 30 day trial I think after that you need to pay. I've never had any issues with it. Think it's well worth the money. I tried joy2key and motionjoy and neither was as easy to use. Pinnacle has a ton of game profiles on their site to download easily. I just outright prefer using controllers....the only "FPS" I think benefited from using WASD and mouse was Amnesia as I found the controls so cumbersome it added to the experience.
Rummy Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Sheikah said: To the Moon is on the Humble Bundle. No excuse guys... buy the bundle if you haven't already. Not to mention Runner 2! I'd have beat the average if I cared for surgeon simulator(already got Reus perviously in humblestore) but nonetheless the HumbleBundle's a cracking deal! Would also recommend checking out Torchlight II for some classic hack and slash style dungeoning - free to play this weekend and reduced during it too.
Jamba Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Ahhhhh yeah... Octodad is going to be getting a release date for Steam announced imminently and I'm thrilled! For anyone that hasn't caught this during the PS4 coverage, it's out to be a ridiculous and wonky kind of game where you play an octopus pretending to be a human. And you job is to fool your wife and kids. I've played the demo on PS4 and it was wicked:
flameboy Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Jamba said: Ahhhhh yeah... Octodad is going to be getting a release date for Steam announced imminently and I'm thrilled! For anyone that hasn't caught this during the PS4 coverage, it's out to be a ridiculous and wonky kind of game where you play an octopus pretending to be a human. And you job is to fool your wife and kids. I've played the demo on PS4 and it was wicked: There's also a free version that's the original project this game is based on it's still a pretty fully rounded game.
Jamba Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Ah yeah! So it's getting a release on the 30th on PC and is going to have a level editor that will allow you to mod it quite a bit. BRING IT ON.
flameboy Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 A level editor I can't wait to see what comes out of that?!!!
flameboy Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Got gifted Nuclear Throne today! Now there is one insane game!
drahkon Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 flameboy said: Got gifted Nuclear Throne today! Now there is one insane game! Care to elaborate? :p
dazzybee Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Agent Gibbs said: i'm using one of Mayflash's WiiU pro adaptors to use my WiiU pro controller on my PC....its awesome such a good pad I want to do this but the site says windows only. I have a mac... is there a way to use my wii u controller on my mac? Havne't played PC games properly since the late 90's (bar Football Manager), but got into steam recently and downloaded loads of games, but really want a decent pad. If Macs can't access these controllers what do people recommend as a great controller to play with?
flameboy Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Why did the what steam games should I buy thread get closed? I was enjoying @jayseven and his journey of discovery one game at a time. (or more like 20 games at a time)
Shorty Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Jay has been known to occasionally, accidentally hit the "close this thread after posting" tick box.
jayseven Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Yeahp! I've also been known to accidentally double-click the envelope on the thread view page, which also locks 'em!
flameboy Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Sheikah said: To the Moon is on the Humble Bundle. No excuse guys... buy the bundle if you haven't already. What a beautiful beautiful game I don't think I've ever played anything quite so poignant. The twists and turns along the way are magnificent. There's a few tiny bits that felt out of place but otherwise fantastic. Just love the aesthetic without any of the RPG malarkey!
Happenstance Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 flameboy said: What a beautiful beautiful game I don't think I've ever played anything quite so poignant. The twists and turns along the way are magnificent. There's a few tiny bits that felt out of place but otherwise fantastic. Just love the aesthetic without any of the RPG malarkey! Yeah its great, one of my favourite gaming experiences.
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