Retro_Link Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 http://www.cubed3.com/news/8135/1/Wii_HD_Discussed_by_Nintendo E3 2007 News | Wii HD Discussed by Nintendo Quick News - In a video interview with Shigeru Miyamoto, stated whilst hardware related answers could not be given just yet, High Definition could be incorporated at some point into Wii, all depending on the uptake of the format by consumers. Check out the full piece below: http://kotaku.com/gaming/the-miyamoto-interview-collection/the-miyamoto-interview-collection-part-5-278018.php?autoplay=true Interesting to know!Again (like Nintendo's stance with online gaming) it's really comes down to a case of consumer uptake levels.
Charlie Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Again (like Nintendo's stance with online gaming) it's really comes down to a case of consumer uptake levels. That's what they want you believe. If the above statement was true we'd have an Xbox Live style online play thing. The rate of HD conversion is increasing all the time, loads of people have them now. Even people who know absolutely nothing about TVs. They get them because they're flat screens and generally look good and they're assured by the shop assistant they're future-proof.
Excelle Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 That's what they want you believe. If the above statement was true we'd have an Xbox Live style online play thing. The rate of HD conversion is increasing all the time, loads of people have them now. Even people who know absolutely nothing about TVs. They get them because they're flat screens and generally look good and they're assured by the shop assistant they're future-proof. I can vouch for that. Even my parents have bought one, and they wouldn't even get a DVD player until I gave them my old one!
JoeTrumpet Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 That's interesting, because I personally do not know anyone with an HDTV--save for one wealthy individual who plays no video games. Maybe it's different in Europe, but Miyamoto's definitely correct about adoption rates here in the US. They may be rising and noticeable, but the Wii is still billed as a console for everyone, and to raise the price by inclusion of features only used by a minority would alienate many consumers. I would most likely not have gotten a Wii if it had been much more expensive.
Cube Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I've got a 19" HDTV, 37" HDTV and a HD Projector in my house. Anyway, a firmware update could make the Wii HD compatible with future games that support it. The Xbox and PS2 did HD.
Hellfire Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I've got a 19" HDTV, 37" HDTV and a HD Projector in my house. Anyway, a firmware update could make the Wii HD compatible with future games that support it. The Xbox and PS2 did HD. They didn't do HD, it could only be upscaled, Wii and GC support that too. A "Wii HD" would basically have to be a new console.
Teppo Holmqvist Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 The rate of HD conversion is increasing all the time, loads of people have them now. Below 10 percent in Europe, around 30 percent in USA and 60+ percent in Japan*. And according to some researchs, 85 percent of HD-TV owners connect have their sets connected with composite (ouch). Realistically speaking, HD-TV is going to reach 50-80 coverage in 6-8 years. Can't really say, but I do know that adaption rate has been slower than excepted. * And we all know how much impact HD-consoles have managed to do there....
gaggle64 Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Nintendo prefer to stay one step behind technologically and make their hardware affordable - it's a strategy which has worked for them from the original Gameboy to the DS and the Wii today. How they pitch their next console against their rivals is going to be interesting. The console wars aren't so simple any more, thanks to the increasingly diverse strategies of all three companies. It's not likely to be mono-et-mono every six years. The Xbox may stick to this pattern, but Sony have previously indicated that they intend to run the PS3 for at least a good ten years. What Nintendo do over the next decade, whether they focus on graphics again with a "Wii 2", or re-reinvent the wheel, is anybodies guess. Best guesstimate: Wii 2 released in Xmas 2013 - accused of being "souped up 360."
Teppo Holmqvist Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 The Xbox may stick to this pattern, but Sony have previously indicated that they intend to run the PS3 for at least a good ten years. Everybody just copycats victors strategy like always, and don't except next consoles having so big jump in power as before. Furthermore, Sony will probably push next console out within four years. PS3 won't ever have ten year long lifetime because it is failing miserably and draining billions of dollars.
Owen Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I honestly don't see the point in Nintendo doing this, but if they could make the images a little more crisp (espicially round the edges of some in-game characters etc..) then i suppose it would help matters! I think Nintendo as a company have shown that all they intend to do is make a damn good video-game only console and not having HD hasn't slowed them down yet. So why bother now? Maybe Nintendos next console should feature HD though, as by then, HD may well be coming in full swing.
steggy Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I think HD would be a good idea in some areas. I'd like to see a HD option on the Internet Browser, and I think strategy games can benefit from the extra resolution (the new civ) just because being able to see more onscreen can be useful. In terms of action games, I don't think it makes too much difference to be honest. I'd much rather a silky smooth frame rate than a few extra lines of resolution.
Fanelia Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 pikmin 3 has to look great in hd. imagine 300 on-screen pikmin all going about their business in plain sd. that sucks. am aai rite?
Emasher Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 i remember some news a while back that the wii actually has the HD chips in it there just not active at the moment
Cube Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 i remember some news a while back that the wii actually has the HD chips in it there just not active at the moment Bullshit!! It's chips are compatible of HD (hell, the NES could probably do HD). It's just a case of how well games run with HD. (with the NES you'll get one screen and then it'll crash...or something)
Ten10 Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 What I think nintendo need to do for now is focus on getting widescreen support into all their games. That is the least they can do.
Zechs Merquise Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Below 10 percent in Europe, around 30 percent in USA and 60+ percent in Japan*. And according to some researchs, 85 percent of HD-TV owners connect have their sets connected with composite (ouch). Realistically speaking, HD-TV is going to reach 50-80 coverage in 6-8 years. Can't really say, but I do know that adaption rate has been slower than excepted. * And we all know how much impact HD-consoles have managed to do there.... Yes exactly, 6-8 years, in that timescale we'll be seeing a new generation of consoles, and by that time HD will be more affordable and Nintendo will shove it in.
Hellfire Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I don't think there's such a thing as an "HD chip", just the technical power to output at higher resolutions. I could be wrong though.
Pit-Jr Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Miyamoto is a terrible spokesman. Get back to making games, you.
DCK Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 It kind of depends on what HD means in this case. HD Wii here would probably mean a Wii with a good, built-in upscale chip and HDMI support. Thing is, Wii can't physically render games in HD resolutions - its framebuffer is way too tiny. All that should be possible on the current hardware is add some components in the video output that make for a better image on HDTVs.
david.dakota Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 If you look through your instruction books, Nintendo seem to refer 480i as ED/HD. Its been commented that Wii CAN support HD visuals, however, this comes at the expense of framerates which drop to terrible rates. Miyamoto has gone on record a couple of times to say that Nintendo would create a HD console in the future, and thats a no-brainer. Perhaps upscaling is an option in the future for Wii, but expect a new consle for Nintendo HD.
flameboy Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I don't see how Nintendo could really justify doing this. They said they were dropping out of the graphics race to concerntrate on other things they would be hypocritical to release a new version that is clearly aimed at the graphics whore and creating a two tier userbase isn't a good idea. Leave true HD to any future consoles, firmware upscaling is fine though...
Konfucius Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 That's typical Miyamoto talk: could be. But he's not in charge of those decisions although he can be quite influential. We were promised DVD support and we didn't even get that (not that I needed it) now why should they make a HD version? The games aren't meant to be output in HD and Ninty wouldn't create one for DVD playback alone. I think the best bet is that we'll see HD with the next Wii and although I think it will be a long way off because Wii is in the lead at the moment this will only give them more money to put into R&D of the new console (and a lot more money to put on the bank).
DCK Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 A simple firmware upgrade will not make the Wii go HD out of the blue; they would've launched the Wii with that if it was possible. For the Wii to go HD, extra components are necessary. Even so, there's no way the games will actually be HD; they'll be 480p games scaled up properly to HD resolutions.
Speedfreak Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 A Wii with a new GPU that just renders in HD is really quite possible in a couple of years.
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