Bogbas Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Didn't see a thread about this here so I decided to make one. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2274635 Well the somethingawful forums thread (1st post) explains the issue. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipaul Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think musicians should write their own dam songs and not hire people to do it for them or rip off other musicians ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twozzok Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think it's wrong, though I can see how they can get away with it. Also, it could be that they just had the same idea. I know it happened with a mate of mine. He made some riff for his guitar. I was all... dude that's the riff from 'Filip' by Muse. He hadn't heard of Muse before :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 ah why the hell not, most of you steal the music anyway, so you condemn him for doing somethin you already do? pssh sit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 It sounds nothing like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think musicians should write their own dam songs and not hire people to do it for them or rip off other musicians ideas. But actor's don't write their own scripts. (Random counter-argument for the sake of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I have several thousand songs, all warezed. Oh noes... the RIAA CSMB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMat Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Downloading music illegaly is wrong. But we all do it anyway, pfft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirtynine. Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 But actor's don't write their own scripts. (Random counter-argument for the sake of it) irrelivent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyellowbloke Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think it's wrong, though I can see how they can get away with it. Also, it could be that they just had the same idea. I know it happened with a mate of mine. He made some riff for his guitar. I was all... dude that's the riff from 'Filip' by Muse. He hadn't heard of Muse before :/ That is possible, I mean there are only a limited number of notes in music so occassionally they might be put in the same combination more than once by pure accident. But in this case, listening to the tracks it looks like this is a pure rip off, it is exactly the same in every way shape and form which is just plain wrong. A similar thing happened to my sisters friend Graham. He spends much of his time sat around in his room mixing tracks, releasing bootlegs and mash-ups and occassionally Dj-ing around a few places around Oxfordshire. Anyway, remember that one hit wonder track by a group called Wiseguys called 'Ooh La La', it got fairly high in the charts back in the late '90's. Well Graham worked with those guys for a while and basically produced that track but got no recognition for it or any royalties. He was pretty pissed off for a number of years, so I can see why this guy is pissed off. ah why the hell not, most of you steal the music anyway, so you condemn him for doing somethin you already do? pssh sit down. But we don't then release that music as our own track, make millions off it and never give the person who actually came up with it a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinist Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 what about file sharing programs....can i steal music from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twozzok Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 what about file sharing programs....can i steal music from them? If you don't try and make money from it like They are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoDesiato Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 ah why the hell not, most of you steal the music anyway, so you condemn him for doing somethin you already do? pssh sit down. But we don't make millions doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 and that makes it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 and that makes it right? Well, noone loses any money, and the artist gets free advertisement via recommendations. Nothing wrong with that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoDesiato Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 and that makes it right? I have multiple hobbies and they cost a lot of money, and I love music. I can't pay for ALL the music I like. The music industry is asking too much money, which makes me download music for free. And don't tell me all the downloading is the cause of that. The music companies still make tons of money. So, in my opinion it wasn't even wrong to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twozzok Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Also remember the Artists makes cents on the dollar from each cd/song sold. They make most their money from merchandise and gigs and shizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hmm, I think this makes me wanna play Sonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think it's wrong, though I can see how they can get away with it. Also, it could be that they just had the same idea. I know it happened with a mate of mine. He made some riff for his guitar. I was all... dude that's the riff from 'Filip' by Muse. He hadn't heard of Muse before :/ I love that song, so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solitanze Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 The problem is based on two things. Firstly, price (in that its often too expensive) and secondly music companies not providing customers with what they really want. Always on cds, there are ommissions of KEY songs just about every time, people have no option but to resort to piracy. For example, say you buy an 80s compilation disc, they always have the usual well known songs, but there are perhaps lesser well known songs you're after but they aren't featured on just about any cd. You don't want to be spending hundreds of dollars just to get all the songs you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think musicians should write their own dam songs and not hire people to do it for them or rip off other musicians ideas. Why does it matter though? If they couldn't 'rip off other musicians' then the music industry would have died out ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 i think most people here went way off topic.This is about People ripping off musician not whether or not you download music.Anyway i think those songs are too different.Its such a basic tune Anyone could have accidentally made it but i think that yes they stole it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thinking about it, companies are a piss take when it comes to buying music. Theres more DRM on music from iTunes than clothes on a nun in winter for gods sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solitanze Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Does anyone else here tend to think music cds have too much bass in them and actually appear to sound of lower quality than compressed mp3 files where courtesy of an application equaliser, you can get sound to your liking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbas Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 I can understand that someone comes up with a similar riff using a guitar, for example. But when the exact melody is recreated with the same machine(or an emulator C64) and sounds exactly the same... This ytmnd should shows the similarities better than the youtube link did: http://timbalandtempest.ytmnd.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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