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The people have spoken with their wallets how much they care for the Wii U's features.

lol no. That was completely made up.

Only just noticed this. My beef actually had nothing to do with the person who made the comment. My problem was with someone claiming to have an understanding of the intricacies of Nintendo's OS, then calling in completely unrelated qualifications to try to strengthen their point. Rather than any relevant or reliable information. Just like anywhere in life, you are free to have and express an opinion, but others are just as free to challenge the information on which you have formed that opinion. For instance, I could hold the opinion 'Microsoft's Xbox One will overheat and die within a year'. If you challenged me as to why I said this, and I said 'I know this because I'm really into technology and did an IT degree', you would be well within your rights to raise an eyebrow. If I instead provided meaningful explanation such as 'they use DD1X cooling systems which are notoriously unreliable' - then I suddenly have credibility. You might be thinking 'well everyone is expressing their opinion all the time', and you'd be right. But hey, that's what discussion is. Someone posts, and maybe you agree disagree. That's the fun of it.

Other companies are doing things new all the time - but where it matters. New software and IPs (things Nintendo are not doing). This mindset needs to go. 'Different hardware = innovation, new software = no innovation". It is so totally backwards to logic, this mantra, since despite having different hardware, nearly all of Nintendo's A1 titles have played and felt the same, or at least very similar.

I think Nintendo need to steer away from the idea that there needs to be a gimmick to justify a new console. A hardware upgrade to allow better software development should be enough.

That's the point - it isn't as dependent. Mokong is making good points that so much of it is done with buttons. I'm also not saying it definitely won't require a lot of work. I'm saying that anyone so heavily sure that Nintendo wouldn't do it for reasons they possibly couldn't know should be taken with a pinch of salt.

That's like me pretending I automatically understand the intricacies of the latest stem cell find because I have a degree in cell biology. It simply doesn't work that way. Unless you have inside knowledge of the OS and its coding then what can you claim to know? It could be extremely laborious to change, or with a team of talented staff it could take not too long at all. Stop reaching.

Most likely you know very little about Nintendo's OS and I am extremely dubious of whatever qualification you claim to have.

He is again countering comments with opinion but in a manner like fact. 'They won't drop the gamepad because of the work involved with changing the OS'. By all means he can have his opinion, but when you say things in a manner like he knows what he is talking about/has inside knowledge (when he doesn't) then a simple 'proof?' is all that's needed to knock his comment down.

What is astonishing is your fabricated 'inside knowledge'. I asked for proof that the work would be considerable. For all we know, it might not be that difficult at all - or at least not enough to put them off the option. Maybe they have even already achieved such a thing? Don't pretend to know everything, else you come across as knowing nothing. Of course - I want Nintendo to become a 'me too'. A 'me too' in terms of 'I'm successful too'.

Proof? lolwut? What hook? If it had a hook, they wouldn't be in this position. Yes? Do you honestly believe people are picking it up now, while it has the gamepad? Wrong choice.

Nobody should be happy with this news. This was their chance to cut out the gamepad and lower the cost to the customer so people could start picking this up at gamecube prices (£130). Sure they'd take another hit but for one, they can afford it, and second, they could start producing these things cheaper in future. They'd sell more, no doubt. They also needed to reduce the cost of their games across the board - something they haven't done. A console itself does not need a USP. That is the flawed philosophy to which Nintendo have ascribed. They looked at the Wii and thought they needed another gimmick, to make systems fly off the shelves. They don't. People want to play Nintendo games - give them either a high end console that is suitably priced, or a low end console priced affordably. Also the DS Virtual Console garners a resounding 'meh' from me - you can already pick up DS games for bargain priced and play them on 3DS. Then there's piracy competition - you can get a flashcard to play any DS game on 3DS. And lastly, Nintendo suck at getting VC games out, and we've just had the DS generation. Feels too soon to me.

Even worse - it's people who buy lots of games who get the discounts -

I agree, it's terrible. The lower priced games thing is a loyalty program, right? What they need to do is reduce the price of their games across the board. I don't want to walk into a game store and still see 3 year old titles priced at £30 or above. 'Blue ocean' = 'we can't compete' And not abandoning the costly gamepad when most people don't care about it? Essentially stating that NNID is fine for now, check back next generation? Fuck me... Really bad news. It's really sad to see Nintendo fall to such a low and to be led by such a jackass.

There never are. Too true.

Get dancer (performer) and freelancer maxed on one person guys. They can do a move called My Hero that gives everyone 1BP but costs them 2BP to use. So you use the ability once followed by as many Freelancer mimics as you can (each Mimic is free to use and doesn't cost further uses of 2BP). It effectively gives each character several BP to use each turn.

With the PS4 doing so much right to please its customers it's bound to garner a lot of support. Similarly when the Wii U is doing so much wrong, it gets flak. I don't think anyone is mindlessly supporting/criticising at the moment. Just a sign of the times. Vita is faring badly but it's hard to argue that relative to its competition, the actual machine and its potential are more impressive. I think PC gaming is brilliant in many ways too.

SDF ASSEMBLE! Yeah, this is how we all are. Totally dedicated to the cause.

Nah, it was a joke. Probably more like 8 years?

Yeah that was truly weird. The same thing happened with my 360 controller.

Nintendo's consoles don't break because they used tried and trusted components designed about 10 years ago.

The Vita is like the thinking man's 3DS.

The only reason you would say 'they should look to improving these things' is because you believe they have the capacity to excel in all those things. I don't think they do. It's a simple but crucial difference in belief.

Because the thing they're running badly is making/maintaining a good console, attracting third party support and having decent network features. All of which would mostly disappear if they didn't have a home console anymore.

So what you're saying is, by terming all that 'hardware', they just need to change a fuck load of things, which we all know won't happen. Neither will third party, so either argument is equally pie in the sky/ we can dream.