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Cool new Halloween event announced!

Oh, that race. That one is relatively easy...I thought you meant the one to get the Sun Sigil.

I laughed hard when I saw this on Eurogamer earlier. Absolutely crazy, nearly made a new topic about this actually. Miyamoto here seems to sums up Nintendo's attitude in general. Poor communication between players no doubt exists because of this attitude.. as well as a lack of games with darker undertones these days...it's a real shame.

I feel so bad for you right now. I'll say it again - there's a special place in hell reserved for the person who designed the chocobo race.

Were you guys not hitting the tortoise?

Sign me up!

Yeah Dust Palace is a cake walk with a good sword. Cleared the nightfall yesterday using remote play.

I done lucked it.

This limited edition controller brings back bad memories...

Well if you look at my post I never addressed a specific person when I said that, it was more of a collective addressing of the opposition's arguments. That particular part where I said Nintendo didn't pick the best things to include/chop was actually in response to King V who said Nintendo would know best when it came to balancing the books and picking features...given they released a 300 quid last gen console lacking some very basic features, I'd very much argue they didn't. As for your question - as someone who has been spoiled by other consoles I know what features should really be a standard now, and other things I'd like to see too. Here's my wish list: - Graphical power above the PS4 and X1 (in line with the next generation) - A standardised controller - Online functionality on par with the other systems; easy to add and play with friends (and message them), proper account system - At least half of all content to not be a sequel or rehash of an existing type of gameplay to bring back people who are bored of the same, decades-old franchises - Epic launch lineup - Option to have subscription-based access to back catalogue (as well as traditional model), and fairly cheap - Communication with third parties when developing the console, deals struck for new game development and investment/startup in western studios - For them to listen to their fans (personal hope: turn amiibo into toys and withdrawn them from the gaming sphere; I can dream)

The comparisons being made here to other things are not good. They already have the Blu Ray drive, which is the key difference, and is without doubt the big cost hurdle that they have already overcome. If you're going to make the argument that Nintendo must know what was best to include/exclude from their console then I'm going to remind you they got everything wrong on the Wii U, it bombed, and launched at 300 quid.

Come off it, who would be able to afford 200 quid but say no deal at 200 quid and 1p? Same goes to 200 and 206. I'm pointing out that ultimately that amount of money extra would make very little difference in swaying a customer either way. Just seems silly to me that they have the tech but say no to the license over such a small cost! It seems to me that people here are seriously underestimating Blu Ray playback; if you don't like it, great, but it is very popular. People like to own things.

You're inflating the figures to 'all Wii Us', to make it sound bigger, but it's still just 6 quid per unit. That's a real shame that they held something like this back over that. Bear in mind, they went with the technology, just not the license! You're also not acknowledging that extra features make consoles more appealing, so there is going to be a return for that investment. Some people that are on the fence will jump if it has something else they also need. Honestly, if they charged an extra 6 quid for their console would that have made any bleeding difference? Nintendo being Nintendo once again.

Interesting, didn't know they were effectively playing Blu Rays. Personally, I think Nintendo are depriving their fanbase something cool for the sake of £6.13 (the cost of a Blu Ray license). For that extra money all Wii U owners could be playing Blu Ray films. It might not be everybody's bag but it's one feature on a checklist of several in terms of stepping up to make their console the same value for money as the competition. Seems silly to near enough have the drive but not play them. That's actually such a small cost that they could just swallow it so you wouldn't need to pay any extra. Ok £15 to us, but hardly going to be less than 7-8 for them. They're not direct manufacturers of these things after all. That's still a heck of an added cost per game; it's a considerable added cost for literally no reason. The market is fine with optical media at the moment. Also as a console of the next generation (NX is technically a generation ahead of PS4/X1), we should expect that their games will considerably step up, so using 64GB cards in this example isn't unreasonable at all.

Cartridges or flash memory are still a lot more expensive than a single Blu Ray. I'm not sure where people are getting this information. Go google a 64GB flash card (akin to a 3DS game cartridge, but a size that might be able to accommodate 'next gen' games); you're looking at around 15 quid. Obviously this is the price for us to buy it and it would be cheaper for them, but it's still expensive. Blu Ray discs on the other hand are very cheap, costing pence. Some of the Blu Ray loading time is also offset by hard drive installations and people get a Blu Ray player out of it, so it's not so bad. Mind you, Blu Ray drives aren't as costly as they used to be so it's not too expensive as a one off cost for manufacturers to include. Sure, it's going the way of cheap and high volume flash storage, but we're not quite there yet.

But why do that when you can offer people something already very useful beyond games too? They'd be going Gamecube again.

They filed a patent for something without an optical drive, but companies file patents all the time. It was never said to be cartridge-based anyhow, just that it had a memory card slot and no optical drive. Cartridges that support massive games would most likely still be expensive, and online-only would lock out certain customers (and given Nintendo's attitude to online, seems pretty unlikely for them). So yeah, I'd argue having Blu Ray is pretty important, because it can play inexpensive discs with a lot of data them. Remember how cartridges burnt Nintendo before? It surprises me that people have completely glossed over the other function of Blu Ray when arguing it isn't important - it's not just movies, it's games too!

Floppy disk? No really, whut?

You guys that are hilariously trashing Blu Rays all know Blu Ray drives are to play games with too, right? Games with several GB on a disc.

By the same logic, nobody would bother with Chromecast either (as in, why bother with Chromecast when you can link a PC or laptop up to a TV). Yet people do buy it, which proves people want it.

Blu Ray support is very important; a massive market (essentially the modern DVD) and not everyone wants Netflix. I generally don't care about paid for streaming, they often seem to lack the things I actually want to watch.

I see no reason why they wouldn't do what they did with Wind Waker. It's gonna be at least a few GB (HD textures and all) and even then, there are younger people with no eShop access and such. If Terraria can get a retail release for consoles, this certainly can!

Feels good man.

Given the Wii U Premium has a 32GB hard drive, I struggle to believe they would make it download only.

If you go with Sun then you can add us 3 to the list