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Oh it's definitely a handheld, the fact it can output to TV doesn't really change anything (think of the swathes of devices that are portable but can do TV-out - my phone can cast to my TV with no extra hardware and I wouldn't call it a home device). It's a hybrid only in the sense that Nintendo are consolidating their software from two ecosystems into one. And because it's a handheld, we're not going to get a home console in terms of performance, just like with a laptop versus a PC of the same cost. I personally wouldn't expect every multiplatform game that goes to X1/PS4 to come to this.

I'd have to disagree with each and every one of your examples, given that every single one thrived for a specific reason, and that reason was not it being a weaker system. In some cases that weakness may have led to it being cheaper (e.g. Wii) which no doubt helped it shift units, but that by no means was the reason it was so successful. Again, success in spite of weakness. This generation shows that people don't just want a weak, cheap console. Time and time again we see people go to the console that suits their needs - the Wii had a cool new and exciting technology, the PS2 had a DVD drive and many exclusive games, and the PS4 somewhat astoundingly was a system that seemed to be basically what people wanted...in contrast to the other systems. My comment to Serebii was basically to say that the console being weaker should have no predictive power in determining success. It's all about whether the console does what enough people want.

Um, I'm not sure you've noticed but the PS4 is itself a monster as a result of doing exactly what it has been doing...so why not just carry on doing it? Sony and Microsoft have already locked in to upping their specs anyway with Pro/Scorpio home consoles. I suppose you could say Sony/MS might release a similar product as an extra device to complement their successful home consoles, but that seems rather superfluous. Why have a home console and a handheld/home console. Sorry, I just can't see them having much interest in this. It's just totally in the opposite direction of what these companies are all about. It's not like a Wii Remote clone that you can cheaply invent for your console to jump onto a craze...it's the console itself. I also think that after the Vita, Sony know they can't compete on the handheld front, and Microsoft have never seemed interested in this area, so I can't see them wanting to copy this, even though I'm sure it will sell. Also regarding specs... specs are absolutely vital to the console; without parity, and especially if you're the underdog, you can kiss those cross-platform releases goodbye. Publishers will go where the audience is and where it's easy for them to port their games. That's exactly what we saw on the Wii U.

Yeah but not because it was the weakest, rather in spite of it.

Nintendo have moved entirely into the handheld domain so no longer really share the same generations with the other home consoles. I doubt Sony and Microsoft are bothered about Nintendo now - Nintendo aren't going to produce a machine that will compete with theirs on specs so they know they'll keep their userbase and third party devs.

I'll admit, GO has certainly done more to shift 3DS systems than I thought it would. That said, from what I recall, 3DS hardware sales were pretty poor before GO's release (particularly in the US) and they're reporting percentage increases, so it probably sounds like it's had a much bigger effect than it really has. Also remember that a bunch of other factors came along too (Monster Hunter, 2DS price cut, old school Pokemon games on the eShop sale). I don't deny some of it is Pokemon GO's doing though.

Awesome news on Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, been interested in that for a while.

If anyone is up for an alt one after that, I'd be free on Sunday.

This seems like what Christmas is for. Definitely asking for contributions to this...

You're not doing yourself any favours by giving quite a childish response like this. Rather than put your hands up for running your mouth again you just carry on...it's poor form.

Inexcusable means literally that there is no excuse for it. If they didn't use the USB standard then I would agree they there's no excuse for it; that doesn't mean people are angry about it though.

Either is fine for me!

Yeah you are. We can only assume the wow factor of Ronnie's graph was to show how much the NX is being discussed relative to the competition. Well, he put in a term that didn't even exist in the public domain (pro) until a certain point; as shown by Cube, if you put in Neo then you see a different picture. This is also a good lesson in 'garbage in, garbage out '. As soon as you put in a proper term (PS4 Pro) instead of a term people don't really use (PlayStation Pro), you see on Cube's graph that the Pro trends above the NX since its announcement to right now. That to me goes against the idea that there is some unreal hype about the NX that everyone can't wait to hear about. Although I don't think much of this graph, it would actually suggest more people are interested in a technical upgrade than the NX...which I'm sure is not the point he was trying to make.

I've had that a few times - I've always thought it was when I leaned back and something slightly blocked the signal (e.g. the edge of the sofa near me).

I assume most people overlooked your post Cube given people are still saying the NX is impressive, lol. It's not even called the PlayStation Pro, why are people giving the fudged data any time of day?

Rather than hating Nintendo, maybe they just hate the profits to be made by making special versions for Nintendo consoles?

Unless it's Red Dead Redemption, which never got released on PC at all.

@MilaGi can also never do the Tuesday either so I would suggest a different night as the standard raid night. Quite busy most of this week but could do Sunday evening.

The PS3/X1 game was a third person open-world shooter borrowing mechanics from GTA, set in the wild west. It was pretty darn amazing.

The thing is...Sonic also has a fucking strong recognition factor, but it doesn't really mean much for dedicated console gamers. Unless Nintendo can make their games relevant and not just mostly retreading old ground then they are going to have an uphill struggle with the NX.

Yes plz....

I am thinking about asking for this as a pooled Christmas gift from my family. The other systems are out of my price range and this sounds like good fun, it's making me really want one!

You said Nolan clearly hadn't seen how American parents react to things when he is an American. How more wrong can you be? This was an unnecessary and somewhat condescending/passive agressive post. The reason that topic was setup was because certain individuals in here begin shitposting whenever negative opinions are posted about Nintendo. It's not a simple case of ignoring people since other people still respond to the problem posts and the discussion tends to derail. And generally speaking, through lack of Ronnie, the other thread actually works.

Yep, it's been there the past few days. I was tempted to queue as the queue wasn't massive, but I passed on it (it was getting a bit late, plus tired).

Nintendoland only has a couple of good games in my opinion. I actually had more fun playing the minigames in some of the Mario Party games.