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Think it's smart that they've announced a date for people to hold on to rather than endless wondering and speculation going forward. Live conference may be a good way to do it, but the bit about public hands-ons are what interest me. The Wii got a lot of roadshows in its run-up, and I'm definitely still enough on the fence to want to possibly get my hands on the thing before I think further about buying it. Just hope they have one more local to me than Westfield(unlikely).

Well for a start £250 to £350 is an extra £100, rather than £50 - and all of those add up. If your mark for this is £200-250 then £300-350 can be quite a difference, even spread across 4 years. Especially if you're unsure whether it'll offer you continued value for said 4 years. #WiiU

£350 is well beyond the mark for me, as it means this system is unlikely to see my more comfortable £200-250 within at least a number of years; by which time it probably won't be as relevant. Makes me actually wonder if this is why they're holding out until after christmas for more price/details; hoping some xmas folks will hold on to monies and then be prepared to wait longer afterwards. If this comes out at £350 however I think I'd genuinely consider something else that is on the market unless this is shown to be absolutely on par in terms of online features and content. Free online could tempt me as it'd save £30-40 a year, and I could factor that in, but I still feel like I'd need to wait and see a lot more of the system before jumping in on that.

This is what annoys me. They slowly but surely achieve good sales - just imagine what they could do if they actually managed to have a console that actually gets a decent level of uptake. Less than 5 million for Splatoon is criminal - despite all the online criticisms that could be thrown at it the general gameplay itself was rather unique and refreshing; massive shame it's not an experience that made it into more people's hands.

Yeah I'd imagine they go for their own file system just to add layers of security to it. Don't see how having a proprietary format card itself would necessarily offer any speed/technical advantage though - surely that'd be adopting some potential new tech in place of the common but apparently well-enough functioning SD card/USB/flash storage tech that's so ubiquitous now.

You didn't actually re-read the other bolded part, did you? :p

Offer 50-90% off BotW digital download on Switch to any WiiU purchasers - 30% isn't enough. 50% minimum. Get it somewhere between £5-20 as an extra cost to have it on your Switch and I think many people will get tempted by taking up the Switch and buying the game digitally for it at that price. Who's going to spend £40+ on it on the WiiU and then spend another £20+ to get it on the Switch? Make it cheap enough and you might actually tempt some of the BotW/WiiU returners who are dusting off their consoles to....make the Switch.

That surely can't be right :p I'm with you on that. I did know I was eventually going to buy a WiiU anyway but I didn't on launch and then around March/April 2013 iirc HMV and a few other stores started their clearout - I got the WiiU with Nintendoland+ZombiU for £200 just, what, 6 months after launch? If they price the system too high they run the risk of running into that same situation again. Retailers buying in then not being able to sell the thing; and resorting to clearing out. I'd wonder how much goodwill there still is with retailers after the WiiU, and how much they can afford to take big risks with the price.

I was gonna say that I think the issue is calibration etc. though I guess the PS4 pad manages it ok? I haven't used the pad for much motion stuff barring maybe Flow and the keyboard(even then I find it fiddly). Personally I think for unity of experience that if it's a touch thing on the go then it should have an equivalent touch thing at home - none of this pointer style substitution.

£200-250 for me. £300 with two games at a push if it's somehow exceptionally on form and matching everything else on the market in the majority of ways. Honestly I do think if I had a choice between £300 for this or £150-£200 for another PS4 I'd opt for the latter as it's giving me enough content to keep me happy I'd probably just like to have it for putting in another room etc. I also think we'll get both kinds of games. As Blade mentioned the marketing is that it's a home console you can take on the go - but I honestly think a big part of that is just marketing and they have to focus on it 'as a home console first'. Whatever may be said about Nintendo - they're certainly prone to being very resolute and arguably stubborn on their image and marketing.

Doesn't make the most sense if said developers don't agree with the approach and want to talk about their own products sooner rather than later though - subsequently also consider what might it do for future relations?

The idea's certainly interesting with enough possible truths but it does seem a bit bizarre - having it on the bottom of the controller for example. I also don't see why they can't just put(as someone mentioned) a PS4-style middle pad in the middle of the controller for docked mode and just use that as a touch screen - with visual feedback on the main screen in the way of some sort of indicator - exactly the same thing you'd have to have with a pointer anyway. Seems a simpler and more sensible implementation than a pointer system which will have to involve re-orientating the controllers to use the pointer.

Yeah sort of essentially. I'm just saying it's not an officially supported means - and some people don't like that. There's loads of 3rd party mains adapters out there too for if yours breaks - but again some people don't like that and will only go official for a replacement. I'd be fairly sure that using them and/or a usb charge cable with your 3DS could technically be warranty invalidating(but Nintendo would theoretically never know). As you mention too - some people don't like proprietary connectors. I don't think people having a preference for officially supported things only makes them 'moaners' nor 'annoyed'(again words I didn't even use), but I know some people who have that preference - and as I said especially more so when it comes to power supply/charging options. One notable example I can think of re: wanting official was when Smash U came out and the gamecube adapter was hard to get hold of. Even after Mayflash came onto the market with their own functioning 3rd party one due to the shortages there were very many people(at least in SmashUK and a few people I met at Smash events) who held out and went without an adapter at all or paid well over the odds in order to try and obtain the official one. Some people mind; that was all my point was. Not everyone, not no one, just some people out there do. The standardisation to USB as you mention avoids a lot of the above, as well as having to actually get another cable(regardless of how cheap it may be); I'd welcome it now mostly because micro-USB has become so standard across the board, it just sort of makes common sense.

Err...where did I say anyone was moaning?! I just said that some people don't like that. Not sure how you manage to conjure words that just aren't being said. Besides which - The 3DS didn't actually do it though, did it? Sure, it works, but the 3DS itself didn't 'do it' afaik. If anyone can prove me wrong and show me an official USB charge cable then sure thing, but it's not an official thing and some people don't like that; especially more so when it comes to something like charging/power supply. Fair point about the NES mini though - if that's actually got USB rather than something else proprietary then it's a good sign for the Switch doing similar(assuming it meets what Nintendo want it to do with the USB standard; can't see why not but who knows).

Yes, I fully understand the concept and would you even believe I have a cable myself. I never said it wasn't possible and, in fact, I even acknowledged that it was. My point was, I thought quite clearly, that it isn't an official thing. Some people don't like that. Besides which if they actually adopt USB in their product then they have to actually adhere to the USB standards unless I'm mistaken.

Not officially afaik though. I think the idea/hope here will be that it is.

Colour me corrected! Personally I'm just not sure I can stand to invest that level of money in Nintendo's product off the bat again(WiiU was the first console I never got at launch since N64 iirc) especially when I'm getting pretty good value out of alternative offerings. Don't get me wrong I really do want to, but I just feel like I got more burned with WiiU than I'd have liked. Often felt like promises with half-hearted implementation/realisation. I was really excited about even Mario Maker when it happened(poss last game I bought for it) - but still that left me feeling bummed again. With the approach they seem to be taking - yeah I think something's holding them up. Again though - as much as I want to hope it's something sensible/rational completely outside of their control I get increasingly worried that it might not be.

I think somewhat sensible is 64GB MicroSD as standard in the system itself, with potential to expand the dock with a HDD maybe? Figure out transferring and stuff via the docked feature, to allow you to move/pick and choose your games for portableness as takes your fancy. Game carts hold own potential for writing/ patches(though annoying/fiddly if you have to update like 3/4 before going out)? I feel like whilst we know a little bit about the system, we're back to where we were last week with many more questions. Fun to speculate in the interim though!

Not quite MH related but this one of the places I feel 'Switch' falls down - it's actually a word that's got a fairly common usage. I feel like if I see 'Monster Hunter Switch' my mind wants to be like 'switch what?' whereas if it was Monster Hunter NX then I'd be a bit more like 'Ah, NX must have its own sort of meaning'.

Damn the Switch! It's making me think I'd love to get this game more(still planning to at some point, but maybe not so soon now) but I'd be less inclined sitting down at home to play it - would love this as a portable like Sticker Star.

Switch MH would be megatons. I bought MH3U but didn't really play it enough(on the bandwagon after it sailed) and got fucked up by Nintendo's stupid online when I tried to buy a reduced 3DS copy, but if you told me I could get the Switch+Monster Hunter it'd make Day 1 a lot more attractive to me. I've mentioned repeatedly but having a functionality of specific content/quests when docked at home compared to a more local/portable content when out and about around others with a Switch would be kinda cool/interesting. You go out - meet someone, hunt/quest with them, become friends and then later play at home for the other content - it gives both parts of the system an equal representation of sorts.

Wow, should have come in this thread earlier! H-o-T and FLink have very much seemed to sum up a lot of my own thoughts/feelings on the system so far. Not quite on the line - but one thing cool about the system's apparent setup is that is if it DID have FIFA - how awesome would it be if you're on your lunch at work; bust out your Switch, and have a quick game with a mate? Ofc that does actually as I type make me wonder about the screen size for having a two player game like Fifa, but...yeah! I just like the idea of that ease of quick multiplay. I'd disagree from just the folks here(though admittedly not representative) - I'd say least me, kav, HoT and Flink are interested but certainly on the fence from the posts so far. I like the promise of the system - but right now it isn't a day one or guaranteed purchase for me until I know a significant amount more about it. EDIT: Nvm hadn't caught up on all posts and this has been pretty well addressed already!

My heart just melted a little bit