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Wait whaaaaaaaat BotW hasn't actually been given even a month it's released in yet? Why have I had March 2017 in my head?! How can they still not even have dated it?!

Very much a sentiment I have myself - seems a strange one though! I'm hopeful at the moment, and the hybrid idea may be good enough to get me; just needs certain points of execution to get me sold. I won't pick it up on launch(as I'll have BotW-U to play anyway) but I'll be watching for people's opinions and reviews around the time and seeing if I will from there depending on its price.

What does it mean for BotW if the NX doesn't launch in March? I can't see it being good for them either way. A lot of people already have this March date in their head - will a delay put people off?

If anyone DOES get bored enough to sell I might be willing to beat any trade-in values for cash... (CEX have 4.5k copies available online and are still trying to sell at £42!)

The other thread someone mentioned rumours on it having sharing features - something akin to what Playstation does is sensible. I know Nintendo don't seem to like too much outside stuff due to risk of their use; the fact is that they exist, are commonplace/commonly used, and very current things. Youtube's huge, especially with young people and LPs etc - it's almost akin to making yourself a Geocities website or some shit. They need to ensure they engage with that to have a successful console imo. It seems so strange to say as I wouldn't have thought it so long ago - but I think a significant amount of this(and any) console's success/demise actually rests outside of hardware and software and mainly on overarching OS and features.

I imagine that the basics of input are all there; but subject to change and not the finalised thing. So stuff might still move or change etc. but the actual input/control methods that were there stay exactly the same.

Obvs getting off the point, but maybe Ruto/Lulu's just a certain kind of female Zora? Could be excused on that front if you consider how similar many others look. I don't think he's quite similar enough, but a bloody good point! Did not consider King Zora! Turns out I was wrong about the guy in the shop - there IS a 'part-time employee' which I think has OoT parallels, but it isn't the guy you posted! Intrigued now. EDIT: I thought I forgot Medi/Biggoron, totes recall them now. I'll be honest I had exactly one point of thinking when I came up with this - and it was that of the Dark Palace when you need to run across the 3-wide floor that disintegrates(same room as Big Chest, even though it's not accessible on this path) - with a 360 degree aspect of movement I wondered how easy it'd be for someone to easily fall off said bridge into the abyss especially with the pressure against them(thinking back to MM on the moon as a Goron when I thought I needed to steer a lot more). EDIT: Don't know why I have so many answers for everything else and not this. Just thought you can simply fully or partially boundary the thing - stops going mad off the edge. Of course, thinking even of that, I've just realised how much of a '2D puzzle' it is - with a 3D perspective you won't see the back of the bridge falling behind you as in LttP. Of course it's something again re-creatable with some thinking; maybe a time crystal switch+barrier on the other end. -Having different altitudes isn't a big deal for hookshotting, is it? I mean going from LttP to 3D(rather than the other way round) you can just make them cosmetically at different levels but still make it work close to the original. Just don't make it much of an item to get you to places you couldn't have gotten to otherwise(already quite a thing in OoT/MM due to need 'hookshot suitable' surfaces) -Did NOT consider Z-targeting and the conveyor belts. In fact I didn't consider Z-targetting at all for something where you've had to free-aim, mostly. Hmm. -Is it? I mean again with 2D you've only got 4 cardinal directions, with 3D you've got a whole sphere around you - almost like shooting keese out of the air(actually makes me think this would be why Z-targetting originated in the 3D games, to avoid the hassle of free-aiming in such a landscape). -Again, surely these can be re-worked somehow? Make the river zora's have an arced water/fireball? So they can aim from lower and spit up in an arc that hits you. They may be more 'killable' in a 3D making though(just thinking how in LttP you can't aim 'down' at a river when you've passing by on shore). -Very good point. Couldn't you work some 3D aspect of it, as you say - there's already an analogue to puppet Gannon! Though tbh that is FAR too tricky a fight to have for the third temple in the game :p I'm not saying the game wouldn't need differences - but why can't you craft it in a 3D world and keep as much as possible? I think 80% is an overestimation. I think it could certainly be done. (may split these posts out into an actual topic on it soon btw)

I wish Splatoon had given us the option for dual-sticking though(without turning off motion). Same I tend to take a bag with me most places but it does pose a problem. I found the 3DS more 'pocketable' than the Vita though.

If it's a single screen portable I think it needs to come with some sort of case as standard too - the DS/3DS did a lot to protect itself with a clamshell design, but if this is a single screen how will it do the same? I'm presuming it's still going to have streetpass etc features hence people will be encouraged to take it out and about?

Goddammit I only just bought it a few months ago!! Anything else in there really worth a shout?

Ha! I actually thought of that guy as I posted! Unless I'm mistaken doesn't he just run the item shop when fisher/curiosity man is running his shop? I couldn't think who else would have replaced him. I wasn't counting any of the sages, though I've obvs come to realise that Lulu was rather Ruto-esque. Saria, Darunia, Nabooru, Rauru and Impa would all have been missing - but it's sort of to be expected with them being sages and all. Ofc we should all know the desert salesman in his MM form, though I can understand if some don't as he was somewhat arguably missable. True it'd be harder but surely not impossible? The whole map/world and even dungeons would need some sorts of re-working yes - though I'd be happy if they could try and stay as close to original ideas/format as possible. I see no problem in being able to see Hyrule Castle from far away, nor Death Mountain - the game limits your progress via items generally. I did get thinking after my post about things like Pegasus Boots etc - harder when you've got 360 degrees as opposed to 4 cardinals. There's certain ways to get around it all, I'm sure! Other than that what things specifically wouldn't work? Not saying everything WOULD, just haven't thought enough to consider anything so far that wouldn't.

Are you sure GC:AC wouldn't feel dated now though? I'd much rather a new AC for NX, especially given the possibilities again having both handheld and home dockable - but they would need to mix up the formula somehow maybe. Even so - GC version of AC on a handheld for me would certainly be cool - I always felt AC was better suited to handhelds than consoles due to doing things at various times etc. Ofc that was when I was younger and couldn't always get to a TV as much as I wanted, but thinking of a younger generation now I'd think it could still be a similar issue. Yet having said that it's also why I'd probably prefer a more up to date version, to reflect the current situation of things and appeal to them more instead.

Tbh that's unnecessary even if satisfying, and does de-rail here. I'm not a mod here though so I can't delete the post, but I actually would FTR. That's the reason I didn't like the idea of a thread like this(tho tbh it has been refreshing/productive on the discussion front). Keep it NX people, please PM or write on my wall with forum issues and I'll take it from there, rest assured I'm not unaware and trying to listen! Alternatively PM someone else if you don't like me, cos that saves me some hassle :p Tbh I signed up as well but have no idea what my password is - just did it at the time to try and get Rummy or Rumdumcious(forced to have due to never having Rummy) - I don't even recall which one I took! I'd presumed at the time it was in preparation for the future consoles though, possibly with a mind to gage demand and start getting services in place to cope too. I'm really hoping with the NX that Nintendo have done a lot of backend work to bring their services up to par with competition(online functionality etc) - it's going to be the real deal-breaker for me on this system unless it does something else amazing to sell the thing to me. With some of the rumours about region-free etc though it does have an indication of moving into that sphere and it's kind of exciting!

Sorry, I didn't really class 'Get Hype!' as a proper post nor a dicussion starter around feelings on the 3DS. Thanks for posting back exactly as I expected and further helping my point though.

Whilst tongue-in-cheek - I did make the post for a reason. You know that you weren't though, right? You realise that was your first post in this thread? I made a post saying the 3DS was mostly, for me, somewhat dead. Nekunando agreed with that for him, in response to me. THEN you feel the need to, for some strange reason, just make a post of 'different strokes' and bring up all its past titles. That was as I said your first post in this thread. You were in no discussion with nekunando at the time. Neither of us were saying it had been a bad system, and in fact after 'calling' him on it he had to actually clarify this to you which then takes the topic in a different direction. This is exactly one of the major issues people in this community have with you Ronnie. You think people take issue with your views, but really on the whole they don't. They take issue with your conduct and your response when you take issues with other people's views and somehow or for some reason feel the need to leap to defence of some perceived, often non-existent and even then unintended, slight on Nintendo. You know what it did to this thread about the Direct? Your post THEN turned it into a DS vs 3DS/how good was 3DS topic when it's about the Nintendo Direct. Dazzy's had to(quite rightly though to keep it cleaner) make a new topic. Your conduct derails threads, discussions, and the board. It makes members of this community not wish to post. THAT is one of the biggest issues people have with you and your impact on the forum. I'm telling you this here, despite being topic irrelevant, because I've had to see a number of members call you out on said conduct recently and I want you to try and understand this point because it's clearly an ongoing issue that is putting off some members, not just some bugbear held against you by 'this place' or me but you have been actively called out by regular members and appear to make little effort to reflect on your conduct, continuing to repeat the same patterns over and over. Of course my predicted response from yourself is a post defending yourself into eternity - once again showing exactly what I've already said; lacking insight into one's own behaviour. If so then you cannot take the point on board because I'm probably in your view definitely wrong and it's just me and thus you will not change and thus you will continue to be an issue for other people here and reduce their willingness to participate in the community. That's the greatest shame of it, really.

You know that Directs aren't about the past, right?

I think if it fails Nintendo are in real trouble. I don't know what they'd do to get out of it except soldier on as they did with the Wii U and hope somehow they still have money to carry on later. I don't think it will fail though - the value of a handheld/home console is good. The issues are going to be price, online functionality/features, and software. I think in that order of importance too, probably. I don't know the Vita 3G numbers but one thing I did speculate on the other thread was what if Nintendo could somehow strike a deal with carriers for an exclusive Nintendo-esque network? So like 3G/4G sim but it can only be used for the Nintendo device, you couldn't push any other non-verified/non-signed data through it. I don't know what the costs are for data these days, but I get 1GB included in my tenner a month. Imagine if you knew no-one would break a few hundred MB a month and didn't need anything else? Could you get a carrier to help you with that? No need for text/voice etc. just all data. Obvs default to wifi wherever possible too. I'd have the above based on a paid online service btw(as PS+ and Live do), and some of that price goes towards the above. I realise it's a pipe dream really, but it'd be interesting to have a handheld console with basic functionality almost anywhere. I think paid online, whilst some wouldn't want it and free is tempted, gives them a revenue stream and ringfence of money to put towards those services.

Yeah the HBR really is pretty scary when you're buying your first place. My parents didn't help by telling me how terrible it all seemed(they happened to get a house with much less 'wrong' on it). The big job on the electrics is the re-wire from what I understand - as long as it isn't the old rubber wiring though it won't need condemning(unfortunately apparently happened to someone at work when they got a spark in). If you're getting someone to update the fuse box etc then you might as well ask them to do a quick check of the electrics as they are now just to be sure there isn't anything hazardous - my brother found two things when I moved in which meant I lost a socket or two in the kitchen(deservedly so though), but otherwise he seemed to think everything was ok. Also consider if the fuse box is getting done maybe having an isolator fitted if they're pulling the fuse to do the work anyway - I dunno why but my brother seems to like having them in houses lol. Basically just means for any future work that needs to be done on the fusebox/consumer unit or before it can be done without pulling the mains fuse (which can involve cutting the fuse seal, and some companies charge to re-seal even though it takes 2 seconds). My brother doesn't like pulling the fuses but most full-time sparks probably won't mind and may even re-seal when they aren't meant to but my brother doesn't tend to do much of the hands-on work day to day. I'd read up/learn a bit more about that though, as I haven't given the best idea of the thing!

What I fouind interesting about his MM analysis is the general actual lack of keys! As said I do wish The Ikana Well got some focus too though. I think MM on the whole seemed less 'dungeony' and more like a world in some ways, which added to its charm. Also even with the 'Groundhog Loop' as you mention I love the lengths they went to to really squeeze in pretty much every asset - all those NPCs from OoT brought to greater life in this strange new world! Was anyone even missing outside of the Kokiri?? Even Poe guy was in there! Haha, I'm glad you put it like that as I recall when playing I just sometimes couldn't get over how similar it was structurally like(3 pendants, get master sword, go to dark version of world, do dungeons in order in locations near previous etc). However what I ACTUALLY want to see is like...LttP realised in 3D. That whole world, Link's house, Hyrule Castle and the secret passage, Aganhim, The Church etcetc but in a 3D style like OoT(or maybe WW, I think vibrant/cartoony would work better). It'd take a lot of work to '3D'ify it - but I'd love it and I imagine if done well it'd sell pretty good off its LttP basis too.

Excellent point - completely out of stock anywhere near me too. I didn't both checking HUKD or anything either, but I'd wonder if it's become a known deal and been snapped up - not exactly a product that won't last or can't be sold on(exactly what I was planning).

'This isn't the place for it' '*thread relevant* 'Now I did say this wasn't the place for it but I'm still going to have the last word at the end of my post to defend my perceived slight upon my person even though barely a sentence has passed since I said this wasn't the place for it' What some people don't seem to realise is their complete lack of insight/understanding into the issue people have with them, and thus they seem unable to ignore or move past it and then they further contribute to said problem. Few people here seem to misunderstand the feelings of said people, but said people seem to absolutely fail in understanding those feelings of others. That's why these threads end up occurring - and also why it's so hard to overcome this hurdle.

I did wonder about this having just bought a portable charger/pack for my phone(tbh don't know why I haven't used it since) - but is it another expense and another carry/faff to deal with? Ofc if we're in an age where it's becoming more commonplace AND the NX might have some standard port charger(ie Micro B) or a USB-to-proprietary port cable included then it's certainly something. Also giving a mini-shout for screen/pointer controls over a pad, if though I prefer the latter. I can see the speed/swiftness of pointer controls coming closer to mouse+keyboard than a pad, but I'm not that kinda guy traditionally. Re: storage really I think anything less than 100GB is not really going to be acceptable. I see the possibility of 'downloading' games to your device for travel, though I really hope it won't if sizes are large due to time taken in 'transfers' and the limited nature. Something cart based(mostly for ease of size) makes sense to me tbh. I realise disc-based media is probably infinitely cheaper than cart based but how much is your markup truly going to be on it compared?

Hoping it's a test run for reviving Directs before a plan to have another Direct a few weeks later for NX. For me mostly 3DS is somewhat dead, but that's me.

Both the 3DS and the Wii U were devices I did not get on launch. It was so weird for me as such a lifelong Nintendo fan not to do that, y'kno? Some of the NX rumours have me excited though - but I feel we really really need some official news/reveal regarding it. I'm absolutely tempted by it and its hybrid nature depending on the capabilities at home and on the go - but really the killer klincher for me is going to be its online functionality and features. If they are sub-par then it's very unlikely I'm going to pick this thing up unless either a lot of people I know have it, or if I see it going at an exceptionally good price.

Ohhh I see what they mean now! Why are we talking d-pads and not analogue sticks though? Surely we be wanting analogue sticks.