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I find it hard to believe used games are so damaging... If a game only sells 2,000,000 at $60 a copy (and yes that many new copies do get moved) that's $120,000,000. I just don't think that budgets truly run that high on average. Maybe I'm delusional about marketing costs. Games that are raking in near to that amount shouldn't be considered failures, and the publishers shouldn't be trying to push that blame on to us. They should be reevaluating their spending. Big publishers right now remind me a lot of the US government, just keep throwing money around and complain that you're losing money. Seriously ~$480,000,000 between 3 titles splitting 8 million sales...failures RE6, 5 milllion sold ($300,000,000) Failure RE5 has sold 6 million.... Dead Space 3 needs to sell 5 million to be a series worth continuing Used games are just a scapegoat for unrealistic expectations and unchecked spending. Lets not forget that these numbers don't include sales made on steam, last I knew those didn't get released.

That's all well and good, 24 hours was too restrictive though. And hell what if your friend doesn't have a particular system...or internet? You can't even lug the system over to play at their house directly. I know I use to do that with my 360, hell used to not have Internet myself. Phone tethering is all well and good, but some don't have Smartphones, and I know I'm not going to pay the extra $30 Verizon wants for me to be allowed to share the connection. That wouldn't have changed....I'm not sure why you think GAME would suddenly pay more for used games? Well, maybe because the license was only transferable once, but I doubt they would. What would happen is any small chain mom and pop stores that survive on used sales likely would lose support. Steam had growing pains, same as MS would have, but even on 56K I could use Steam. Can't use a Xbone without 1.5Mbps, well recommended. I'm sure 768Kbps would work just have some sketchy features. I always doubt we'd see equivalent sales. We can already see equivalent sales is MS was truly serious about cheaper games. There is no reason that current XBL and XBLA titles can't enjoy the same level of discounts as Steam...or even PSN, let alone PSN+. That looks like the same "Engineer" stuff that was quoted in full earlier in the thread. I responded to it's silliness once. Nice to know that we in the US are Morons for thinking that MS, a company already outed as happily giving info to the NSA, a company with patents that will allow Kinect to stop playback if there are too many viewers, is only planning on using Kinect for games, and saying "Xbox on". Of note to people saying sharing has been killed oh woe is us....http://www.bluesnews.com/s/142637/steam-game-sharing-planned Steam might be implementing sharing judging by some beta code. EDIT: http://www.destructoid.com/an-industry-that-needs-xbox-one-drm-is-a-failed-industry-256643.phtml I like Jim Sterling

WoW is a grindfest even at low levels..... I enjoyed Rift but didn't have time for it. I never got into the FFXIV Beta, but oh well.

My problem with the console is still not fixed. Kinect can eat me.

Yes, I know all that, but thanks!

Yeah, which is why no Console uses SSDs (though they are finally around the $1/GB point) Wii U uses standard Flash memory to my knowledge which is why I talked about SD cards. But you know what, just for the fun of it I'll humor you. 120GB Samsung SSD $99. $0.83/GB More expensive yes, drastically so compared to a large SD card, no. In fact most 128GB SD cards tend to be closer to $100 themselves.

20GB was not a lot 7 years ago or expensive. http://www.anandtech.com/show/1866 They list a WD drive as 250GB for $109. $0.43/GB So yes, they were more (1TB is less now...) expensive 7 years ago but MS just liked to gouge on their proprietary drive. As for Flash memory, a 128GB SD card can be had off of Newegg for $80. $0.60/GB They're not that expensive either, Nintendo has no excuse for their console having such low storage space. Especially considering the fact that products sold to consumers are marked up comparatively.

DmC was a fun but generic re-imagining of a series that had a certain style already. And in fact DMC proper is a FANTASTIC example of what O_W is talking about. Each iteration changes the formula, changes the setting and keeps the same deep combat...excluding DMC2 and DmC. DMC2 was a turd, it changed too much from DMC. In it's defense though a lot of the ideas from DMC2 were fully realized in DMC3 with the addition of styles, 6 different styles that fundamentally changes how to approach a battle, and tons of different weapons. DMC4 threw in Nero, the Devil Bringer and Exceed gauge. Doesn't change combat entirely but it's a tweak it makes the game new and different. Plus, Playing as Dante and having styles mapped to D-Pad is fantastic. DmC is like the ugly love child between Heavenly Sword and DMC. It's fresh for DMC, but not really new. So far Bayonetta 2 doesn't seem to exhibit any tweaks beyond shorter hair....which is purely a design.

It's akin to someone constantly walking around with their phone up to their eyes and always looking through the camera viewfinder. A little creepy.

I find it to be a relatively dorky device and frankly quite creepy for day to day wear/use. On the other hand, if they look like this I'm in.

2021 PS4 as FFXV-2

I was decided when they said Kinect is required. Sure, nip it in the bud. Assuming it is Human error and the replier wasn't fully reading the text he answered which implicitly stated Xbox One. It could be backtracking to cover a mistake, or perhaps a policy that isn't fully decided. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was 100% accurate though, and they wouldn't be the first company (cough EA cough) to implement such a feature and receive the appropriate backlash.

I see where you're coming from O_W and while I don't agree (Hey I enjoy Fly me to the Moon) if they made the changes you mention I couldn't complain. I'm personally not bothered by the ranking scenes after each segmented fight or all of the cutscenes. On the first playthrough I just watched them. If I play now, I just skip them, not even a minor annoyance.

Well....that's a shit fucking argument. It is similar to steam, I can get behind that it doesn't bother me. The 24 hours requirement does, but that's neither here nor there at the moment. Steam's end-line goal was never "Hey, DRM means cheaper games hur hur hur" The majority of games release at full fucking price unless they're late ports or indie titles. Steam is able to do sales, but the games aren't actually cheaper...unless this PR is merely comparing to XBL Digital titles where they have inconsequential sales and the price rarely changes. Kinect 1 was a childs toy. Kinect 2 is the NSAs toy. I fucking hate the idea that we are merely acquiring licenses giving us permission to play....They can suck a fat one at that. Why not Dedicated Servers? Hell, user owned and run Dedicated Servers, works great for PC.... Or...I'll browse the internet on a browser that isn't shit? I know I'm truly responding to anyone, and no one of import will read this, but fuck sometimes it feels good to argue nothing. https://twitter.com/XboxSupport1/status/345338828606812160 Sickening....

It reminded me of Uncharted more. You know, if Nathan Drake had a sword, and super(er) powers.

True dat, fucking Ubersampling is a system killer.

Ehhhhhh no. The old man is CG quality for sure, but that little goblin was plain creepy and looked worse than Dobby. Plus Lebron talking to Lebron really shows graphics have a ways to go before being mistaken for real.

Did….did you hear that? Did you hear that knife Sony stuck into Microsoft? Did you hear them twist it? I’m pretty sure that’s what happened. This war has been won.

Love subtitles, on everything. Makes low volume watching quite a bit easier. Of course as typical Murrican I think I'm suppose to say "Read am too hard if I wanted to read a movie I'd read a book. It should be in english cuz I don care how many peopl tell me a foreignor film is gud I dont wanna read." Yes, I hear that a lot, and I kind of want to punch those people right in the throat. Then again I'm a good multi-tasker and reading subtitles and watching on screen action is perfectly doable.

Because then it isn't listening and watching you. And shorty maybe its not a Orwellian conspiracy in the UK, but I have absolutely no trust for my government or corporations in the US. Considering we are increasingly moving towards "It's okay if you have nothing to hide" type of thinking, and it's known that they warrants are becoming more meaningless....yeah.

Absolute shit. Not much different than steam (honestly a couple benefits?) other than Steam require 30 days (so I learned in this thread haha) regardless of the PC. Well hell....almost entirely different I guess. TO BE FAIR they absolutely could possibly patch in that the console/games no longer need authentication 10 years down the line, or even transfer the authentication to the next console iteration....IF they want to...IF they thought ahead unlike the Xbox which can't go online anymore. Hell...I wonder how long 360's can go online for. Sure the XBL account is carried over, but it was carried over before too. I'm just disgusted by the idea of requiring online so often. Yes I have it constantly, but that doesn't mean I can always afford it. And there are still plenty without either Highspeed Access, or just plain access. Maybe it's not available. Maybe they can't afford it. And it's shit. And yes Steam is like that at the very least. Authenticate, update, and play. But people without internet damnwell stayed away from steam/PC gaming and played Consoles for that reason. I'm rambling dammit...I'm sorry but whatever.

They didn't pay a lot of attention to the 2006 PS3 did they...

They probably don't want another debacle of every PR person giving different answers to the same questions....

And awesome PC versions. @Daft, I'll sign an NDA from you for realsies. Wouldn't tell nobody...maybe.

Went to the Zoo today! Feck yes! https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=c7b588945018e1e0&id=C7B588945018E1E0%21155&authkey=!AKW4NNsClGhht9E I'm not going to make 18 individual links for my favs or a different folder for now. But have at those ~60