Caris Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 I Cant understand why people are worrying about the Price of the Wii and think that Nintendo are screwed, i just want to make some points to you all. The Wii Price Its fine, Its £20 less than a Xbox360 Core and lets look what you get. Xbox360Core: -Console -Leads -Wired Pad -Silver Live Nintendo Wii: -Console (with inbuilt memory) -Leads -Wiimote -Nunchuck -Wii sports game -Stand -Sensor Bar -Fully online out the box (Wii Connect 24) Just to add to the first post the wii has built in wi-fi where as you would have to buy the 360 wireless adapter if you wanted wireless on the 360 Good point that. The wireless adapter for the 360 is an excessive £60! Now if we added up from the Core what we would need to bring it up to the Wii's bundle it would be: HDD: £60 Wireless pad: £30 Gold Live £30 for 1 year Game: £40 Live Headset: £15 All that brings it up to £175 on top of the Cores price. Now compare, just cuase the Wii hasent got Crazy real graphics doesnt mean they can charge a ton less than the 360, they have expensive and new forms of technology in diffrent forms (The Controller). Also look at what you get, people never seem to metion the stand or the sensor bar which when they sell them seperatly will be something like £10 for the stand and £20-30 for the sensor bar, also on top of that the Wii has Memory built in, in which cuase thats £20 for a Xbox360 MU you could start to add in. The price for what your getting is fine, just look, think and compare, remember as well, we all know the Xbox360s prices, Nintendo have just annouced theres, Gameplay and good shops like that will sell what Nintendo said but a tad cheaper as well. This is my opinion of the price, lets just keep most of the price talk in this thread as it seems to be cluttering up alot of other threads. Discuss. ---------- USA - November 17th - $249.99 Wii-Remote - $40 Nunchuka - $20 Games - $49.99 Japan - December 2nd - 25,000 yen Wii-Remote - 3,800 yen Nunchuka - 1,800 yen Games - 6,800 yen PAL - December 8th - £179.99 / 249 Euros Wii-Remote - £29 / €39 Nunchuka - £14 / €19 Games - £34-£39 / 49-50 Euros
Waylander Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 The price doesnt bother me at all. I just hope there are plenty of online games for the Wii.
blender Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 the wii will sell out at launch. So the price is right.
AshMat Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Very good topic, thoguh the price doesnt bother me i till see some complainers.
fatnickc Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 You've argued your point well, but I already agreed with you anyway. The price would only have put me off if it was over £200, and then I would have waited for the first price drop.
Darv Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Another good point is IIRC the Core Xbox doesn't come with an HD cable so your stuck with SD graphics. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Pit-Jr Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 of course id love it if Miyamoto himself hand-delivered me a free Wii but since thats not gonna happen, im totally comfortable paying the price theyre asking. The fact that they crammed so much efficient functionality into something that small is worth the asking price to me. I think the only negative is the forced purchase of Wii Sports. Its not a problem for me since i wanted it anyway. I think it would have been more logical and business savvy to include a second wii-moat in its place Think about it, if people get 2 wii-motes theyre automatically gonna get others to play it and spread the word
ShadowV7 Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Only thing I didn't like at first was that you had to get Wii Sports,i'd prefer to get the Wii without it,but now I think it will be good for multiplayer and then I can spread the joy of the Wii
Charlie Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Another good point is IIRC the Core Xbox doesn't come with an HD cable so your stuck with SD graphics. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong) You're right, but it isn't just the Core. Not even the premium comes with HD cables.
ThePigMarcher Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Well done Caris , finally some positivity round this place. I understand that people are entitled to bitch about the price , but after my initial disappointment I have accepted that it seems a fair ask , but all the negativity round these parts is getting on my tits (thankfully I don't visit/post regularly).
triforcemario Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 I think it makes alot of sense including Wii-sports with the Wii, because there are alot of familys out there who don't realise that consoles don't include games (I have heard of this happening), and their children getting dissapointed on christmas day because they can't use it.
Hellfire Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Finally someone talks something that actually made sense. Good show.
IMJ Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 I think the price is fair enough. You get everything you need to get started. Basically you can purchase a Wii, get home, hook up everything and you're off to go. Sure Wii Sports works better in multiplayer but at least you can HAVE to spend more money to play, unlike many other consoles out there. That said, I was slightly disappointed it would cost 249 euro, because they've always said it wouldn't cost more than 250 euro, people were expecting a price of 200 - 229. I'd rather they've had said it would be 249 in the first place, so i wouldnt be expecting a more mass-market price. I guess Nintendo could have either chosen to release the console + controller for 200 and have people buy a separate game or make a bundle where no extra purchase is needed for 249. So yeah, I'm fine with it. The prices for the controllers are actually pricier when you think about it. The remote is 40, but i see the nunchuk + remote as the complete set, so that makes it 60 euro for a new controller... Ouch, that's a new game already. I believe they're gonna pack in Wii Play with the separate controller. I really hope they do, cause getting more mini-games means i can spread the fun and feels less expensive.
mcj metroid Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 I Cant understand why people are worrying about the Price of the Wii and think that Nintendo are screwed, i just want to make some points to you all. The Wii Price Its fine, Its £20 less than a Xbox360 Core and lets look what you get. Xbox360Core: -Console -Leads -Wired Pad -Silver Live Nintendo Wii: -Console (with inbuilt memory) -Leads -Wiimote -Nunchuck -Wii sports game -Stand -Sensor Bar -Fully online out the box (Wii Connect 24) Now if we added up from the Core what we would need to bring it up to the Wii's bundle it would be: HDD: £60 Wireless pad: £30 Gold Live £30 for 1 year Game: £40 Live Headset: £15 All that brings it up to £175 on top of the Cores price. Now compare, just cuase the Wii hasent got Crazy real graphics doesnt mean they can charge a ton less than the 360, they have expensive and new forms of technology in diffrent forms (The Controller). Also look at what you get, people never seem to metion the stand or the sensor bar which when they sell them seperatly will be something like £10 for the stand and £20-30 for the sensor bar, also on top of that the Wii has Memory built in, in which cuase thats £20 for a Xbox360 MU you could start to add in. The price for what your getting is fine, just look, think and compare, remember as well, we all know the Xbox360s prices, Nintendo have just annouced theres, Gameplay and good shops like that will sell what Nintendo said but a tad cheaper as well. This is my opinion of the price, lets just keep most of the price talk in this thread as it seems to be cluttering up alot of other threads. Discuss. ---------- USA - November 17th - $249.99 Wii-Remote - $40 Nunchuka - $20 Games - $49.99 Japan - December 2nd - 25,000 yen Wii-Remote - 3,800 yen Nunchuka - 1,800 yen Games - 6,800 yen PAL - December 8th - £179.99 / 249 Euros Wii-Remote - £29 / €39 Nunchuka - £14 / €19 Games - £34-£39 / 49-50 Euros dont be silly the fact that the 360 is about 3 times the power of the wii proves the price is wrong
demonmike04 Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Im over the price and all, but still, the controller has pissed me off. They wont bundle it with the nunchuck when retailed, so therefore we have to buy them seperately which means a percentage of what we pay is for the different packaging. Also, its left me thinking, if the Wii was supposed to be the cheapest WITH the DVD functionality, how much was it gonna cost? The same as an XBOX 360 core? Still, you got to remember that we have to think from a customers point of view which knows no were near as much as we do about video games. Their just gonna think "Oh, for 20 quid more my son could get one of those console's his mates go on about having really good graphics". Its the high-definition branding, people want it. But I think we're all talking too early, we gotta see what Nintendo has planned. The marketing, the DS connectivity, the feature 'hard-core gamers' will enjoy and possibly if it does a GC and theres a price drop before launch. Im expecting one if PS3 sells well in the US and Asia.
mcj metroid Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 360 will suddenly kick ass wait till u see!
demonmike04 Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 360 will suddenly kick ass wait till u see! You may be wrong. Parents are going to go xmas shopping, and go for the cheapest option so theres more to spend on other xmas needs. Wii would have an advantage at £180 with a game, but it may not have an advantage if the child (which is most probably a spoilt brat), demands and xbox 360 so he can fit in with his friends and be slightly popular for having 'AMAZING GRAPHICS INIT'.
DCK Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 The price is ok, but it was expected to be less. Also, Nintendo is making profit on the console itself, meaning it isn't as cheap as it could be. So there's room for complaining there. Second, the Wiimote + nunchuck set (60 euros!) and the VC games ($5 for a NES game!) are overpriced. Even the internet browser has to be paid for. Obviously Nintendo are thinking way too much about short term profit and not really about long term market share.
Teppo Holmqvist Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 360 will suddenly kick ass wait till u see! Sure, it has sold 1.3 million units so far in Europe. It does badly without competition. Believe me, having actual competition in Europe doesn't help situation at all.
Tellyn Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 I expect Wii to sell loads anyway. People who bought DS and Nintendogs will know that Nintendo can make excellent quality games and consoles.
Caris Posted September 17, 2006 Author Posted September 17, 2006 dont be silly the fact that the 360 is about 3 times the power of the wii proves the price is wrong Did you read what i wrote you tool, just cuase the 360 is more powerfull doesnt mean the Wii is a simple shit machine, The controler will cost quite a bit to make thats where there putting there technology, not in the graphics but in the hardware.
Teppo Holmqvist Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Did you read what i wrote you tool, just cuase the 360 is more powerfull doesnt mean the Wii is a simple shit machine, The controler will cost quite a bit to make thats where there putting there technology, not in the graphics but in the hardware. And Xbox 360 is also sold with huge losses.
demonmike04 Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 And Xbox 360 is also sold with huge losses. Who cares? Were not talking business analysis shit, were talking from the customers point of view. You dont see parents inside game shops saying "I would buy a 360, but microsoft will lose money.."
Emasher Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 the north american date is the 19th of november not the 17th.
mcj metroid Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Did you read what i wrote you tool, just cuase the 360 is more powerfull doesnt mean the Wii is a simple shit machine, The controler will cost quite a bit to make thats where there putting there technology, not in the graphics but in the hardware. yes i did u ass! if u think it is justified having a console for the mass market where u have over priced controllers,over priced vc games(but im not surprised there) over priced controllers, and u have to actually pay for the browser then fine by me.i dont give a shit if wii sports is included or not and
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