Blue_Ninja0 Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Gone are my worries about bowser not being badass enough. Controlling giga bowser is a dream of mine since i saw it on melee.
Hellfire Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Since Melee I had an idea about an item that would transform you temporarily or give you a special attack, when I saw the final smash smash I weeped in joy. Now I weep in joy again, as I always hoped for a Giga Bowser.
Guest Stefkov Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Giga Bowser looks amazing. That's all that I need to say.
Goron_3 Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 How do you do play as him in SSBM? Also, I wonder how many people will almost immediately fall off the stage just after becoming Giga Bowser, a la Giant Donkey Kong from that Donkey Kong level in SSBM? You have to access the Debug menu (with AR).
Zell Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Somehow I think Giga Bowser may be more of a hinderance (thinks of Jigglypuff). But he does look darn cool.
Goron_3 Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Somehow I think Giga Bowser may be more of a hinderance (thinks of Jigglypuff). But he does look darn cool. That's actually a really good point. The final smash moves seem a little unbalanced from what I've seen. I mean, Link can only attack 1 enemy right? Whereas Mario attacks everyone screen and Giga bowser just kills everyone lol. I mean, you look at Kirbys move where he becomes a chef and cooks you...I can't see it working on more than 1 person at a time.
Hellfire Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 How's that unbalanced? Each character has its own strenghts and flaws, that's the basis of gaming.
DCK Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Wow, it's like Sakurai makes us drool every single time. So awesome.
Jonnas Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 That's actually a really good point. The final smash moves seem a little unbalanced from what I've seen. I mean, Link can only attack 1 enemy right? Whereas Mario attacks everyone screen and Giga bowser just kills everyone lol. I mean, you look at Kirbys move where he becomes a chef and cooks you...I can't see it working on more than 1 person at a time. I don't really think that they're that unbalanced. Mario's Final Smash hits many people, but just deals damage. Doesn't throw them out (I think). Therefore, other people could steal KO's. Link's Final Smash can send enemies flying, but it is harder to hit several people (IF more than one). Pikachu's is controllable, but it's so fast, probably only skilled players can use it effectively. Giga Bowser, may be ultra powerful, but being big has its disadvantages. (See: Giga DK in Adventure Mode; Giga Yoshi in Event Mode) Kirby's...we don't know much, but in the kirby games he could put several enemies at once in the cauldron, so it's a safe bet that he can cook several enemies at once in SSBB, as well.
Shino Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Somehow I think Giga Bowser may be more of a hinderance (thinks of Jigglypuff). But he does look darn cool. That was what I was thinking, give me Jigglypuff and he wont last long (unless he's invencible during the process).
Petey Piranah Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 I don't really think that they're that unbalanced. Mario's Final Smash hits many people, but just deals damage. Doesn't throw them out (I think). Therefore, other people could steal KO's. I think Marios final smash deals damage and subsequent to the amount of damage accumulated earlier, they will either be sent flying to doom, or JUST survive due to being virtually 0% prior to the final smash and because the fireballs are travelling at fast speeds when you are hit and the fire effect immobilises you for a second or two you'll be burning and then be pounded with more fireballs that'll knock you off the stage. Seeing that this is a final smash, I don't think it has the effect of a regular fireball where you just get damaged and thats it. That was what I was thinking, give me Jigglypuff and he wont last long (unless he's invencible during the process). I don't understand how Jigglypuff can pull off such an OWNAGE KO move by just sleeping... Was useful for acquiring the Mr Resetti trophy though... How come I am reading people saying Kirby will cook enemies and that is his final smash, has this been confirmed or is this just estimation/speculation? I have had the lottery mode music in my head for almost the past two weeks. I think I am getting bodily signals craving for this Wii software.
Hellfire Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 How come I am reading people saying Kirby will cook enemies and that is his final smash, has this been confirmed or is this just estimation/speculation? It's in the first trailer.
Jonnas Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 I think Marios final smash deals damage and subsequent to the amount of damage accumulated earlier, they will either be sent flying to doom, or JUST survive due to being virtually 0% prior to the final smash and because the fireballs are travelling at fast speeds when you are hit and the fire effect immobilises you for a second or two you'll be burning and then be pounded with more fireballs that'll knock you off the stage. Seeing that this is a final smash, I don't think it has the effect of a regular fireball where you just get damaged and thats it. Actually, that was just a theory. It is the only reasonable explanation, if Mario's Final Smash is to have any balance at all. He can hit multiple people easily and trap them, dealing a lot of damage, but without sending them flying. It's the only disadvantage I can think of for such a powerful move. I can be wrong, though. It is just a theory. And for those of you saying Jigglypuff can KO Giga Bowser easily... What' date=' you think just because he’s huge, you can needle him with lots of little attacks and keep him off-balance? Heh heh... Yeah, you keep thinking that.[/quote'] This means that Giga Bowser can't be sent flying. Maybe he'll still be able to take damage, though. Who knows?
Zell Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Rest isn't what I'd call a "little" attack. When playing Giga Bowser in Adventure/Event 51 lots of little attacks do not work at all against him, yet rest KO's him in one or two hits.
DomJcg Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 this rest move, i swear it only works if the person is about to attack you (a split second away) ive only managed to pull it off once
DCK Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Final Smashes don't really need much balance as they're pretty rare... They can be off balance a bit just like the characters aren't balanced perfectly either.
Jonnas Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Rest isn't what I'd call a "little" attack. When playing Giga Bowser in Adventure/Event 51 lots of little attacks do not work at all against him, yet rest KO's him in one or two hits. In Melee, lots of little attacks can keep him from attacking, I believe. There's always some little knockback on small attacks. On smash attacks and rest, there's a lot of knockback. Small knockback means that Giga Bowser barely moves, but also means that he can't attack easily because he flinches. If the Giga Bowser from Brawl doesn't suffer from small knockback, he can't suffer large knockback, either. That's what I got from the blog.
Goron_3 Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Well if you hit him with Rest he'll go quite far I think. The blog seems to say that if you use tonnes of weak attacks he won't go far (for example, if you play as Fox and just try and f-smash him). Rest is different to this...it rocks! And to whoever asked on how you get rest to it, just use it as Jiggs is touching them. A good way is to get Fox/Falco to 50%. Then, grab them and throw them up, jump and rest em, they won't get out of it
Sprout Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Cool update. Giga Bowser looks so awesome. "I'VE GOT A HOSTAGE!" Hmm, wonder if Ganondorf will transform into Ganon.
blender Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Giga Bowser = Evil. true, its almost too scary for this game. He wouldnt look out of place as a boss in RE4
DomJcg Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 true, its almost too scary for this game. He wouldnt look out of place as a boss in RE4 a replacement for an el biggo (troll thingy, i forget the name el ginante?)
Jamba Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Has anyone thought about who the Nintendog might be an assist for?
nintendo_guy Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Has anyone thought about who the Nintendog might be an assist for? Assist Trophies are for anyone I think.
Ashley Posted July 4, 2007 Author Posted July 4, 2007 Has anyone thought about who the Nintendog might be an assist for? The new secret girl; 10 year old female DS player! Or more seriously: Assist Trophies are for anyone I think.
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