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Theme time!

Marquis of Queensbury Rules

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To put it simply, the 14 characters allowed tonight fight completely unarmed. No swords, no guns, no tools of any kind. Characters that create some kind of projectile with only their own capabilities (Ryu's Hadoken, for example) are also allowed.

Mii Brawler is also allowed tonight, but they must not have the Shot Put neutral special.

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Tonight, there are no stages with obstacles that can cause you damage. This doesn't apply to obstacles that can cause you to fall prematurely, by the way, so don't get too comfortable.

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I didn't want no items. That's boring, but items are extremely limited to those you cannot physically pick up.

Format: 3 Stock, 10 Minutes
FS Meter: On

See you at 7:30pm
(Remember that during Custom stage matches, the stage and item restrictions won't apply, but the character limits do)

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Ooh interesting theme. 
Query though. Why is Dark Samus allowed but not Samus? Aren’t they the same in terms of moves? Isn’t the arm cannon a gun anyway?
Ok I get Mario (Fludd is a tool) but shouldn’t Dr Mario count? Or are his pills not self made lol? 
Why only those Pokemon? Do the rest not qualify for some reason I can’t think of. If Pikachu can shoot electric why can’t MewTwo shoot his aura ball thing (wait are you saying his teleporting is a tool). Incineroar doesn’t have weapons does he? His side B maybe doesn’t count? Lucario?

Maybe the wrong character image is showing. There’s only 14 to pick from?

 

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  On 1/25/2025 at 10:36 AM, BowserBasher said:

Ooh interesting theme. 
Query though. Why is Dark Samus allowed but not Samus? Aren’t they the same in terms of moves? Isn’t the arm cannon a gun anyway?
Ok I get Mario (Fludd is a tool) but shouldn’t Dr Mario count? Or are his pills not self made lol? 
Why only those Pokemon? Do the rest not qualify for some reason I can’t think of. If Pikachu can shoot electric why can’t MewTwo shoot his aura ball thing (wait are you saying his teleporting is a tool). Incineroar doesn’t have weapons does he? His side B maybe doesn’t count? Lucario?

Maybe the wrong character image is showing. There’s only 14 to pick from?

 

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OK, spoilers. But Dark Samus is Metroid Prime and is able to copy the things that it absorbs. So Dark Samus' "Power Suit" isn't actually a physical Power Suit like Samus', it's Metroid Prime mimicking Samus. So it's doing all the Samus stuff by itself.

Dr. Mario's pills are different to Mario's Fireballs. Mario generates the fireballs himself, but the Doc's pills are physical objects he stockpiles. And even if the pills were OK, the side special disqualifies both Marios anyway. Whether it's the cape or Doc's "Super Sheet".

Mewtwo, Lucario, and Incineroar utilise various mechanics from the Pokémon series in their Final Smashes. Mega Evolution for the first two, Z-moves for Incineroar. In the games, both of them require the Pokémon to hold a specific item to do this, which disqualifies them. Also Incineroar's Side Special does also disqualify him.

Interestingly, despite doing a similar transformation, this doesn't disqualify Greninja. Ash-Greninja is triggered by a specific ability, no item needed. But well, about Greninja.

  On 1/25/2025 at 10:36 AM, BowserBasher said:

Maybe the wrong character image is showing. There’s only 14 to pick from?

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  On 1/25/2025 at 10:43 AM, Ashley said:

Mii Brawler is allowed (with a caveat) but not pictured. 

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Actually, you're both right. Miis can't be used in Smashdown, so I can't get images that feature them easily.

But also, it just dawned on me that Greninja utilises the move "Mat Block" to initiate it's Final Smash. That mat is a physical object separate from Greninja, which means I'll have to ban him, and do a new image. So yeah, 14 fighters now.

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  On 1/25/2025 at 11:11 AM, Glen-i said:

Dr. Mario's pills are different to Mario's Fireballs. Mario generates the fireballs himself, but the Doc's pills are physical objects he stockpiles

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Have we had this confirmed? This is a world where a baby can be a doctor after all, who knows how pills are made there. 

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  On 1/25/2025 at 12:16 PM, Ashley said:

Have we had this confirmed? This is a world where a baby can be a doctor after all, who knows how pills are made there. 

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Fair point, all I recall is that the original Game Boy game's instruction manual has Dr. Mario say he "developed" the megavitamin himself. Now, developed could mean anything in the Mushroom Kingdom, but it does imply a relatively standard procedure for medicine development, and that the Mushroom Kingdom Hospital (Where Dr. Mario takes place. Yes, seriously) is where he stores them.

Ah screw it, I'm sure the manual is available online.

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  On 1/25/2025 at 11:11 AM, Glen-i said:

But also, it just dawned on me that Greninja utilises the move "Mat Block" to initiate it's Final Smash. That mat is a physical object separate from Greninja, which means I'll have to ban him, and do a new image. So yeah, 14 fighters now.

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Glad to have helped? :D

 

That's fair points on the rest. I didn't think of the cape or sheet there.

I knew the Pokémon expert would come through. I did wonder if it may have anything to do with the final Smashes after I had typed it all.

I guess the last match is just gonna be everyone asking if everyone is is "ok".. ;)

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  On 1/25/2025 at 12:30 PM, Glen-i said:

Fair point, all I recall is that the original Game Boy game's instruction manual has Dr. Mario say he "developed" the megavitamin himself. Now, developed could mean anything in the Mushroom Kingdom, but it does imply a relatively standard procedure for medicine development, and that the Mushroom Kingdom Hospital (Where Dr. Mario takes place. Yes, seriously) is where he stores them.

Ah screw it, I'm sure the manual is available online.

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Okay now I want a Grey's Anatomy kind of show set there.

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Thanks for the games. :smile:

Here's a link to this week's stream... :peace:

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Time format tonight at 7:30pm.

A reminder that the FS Meter will be turned off this go around. At least for normal matches, Custom stages will still have it on.

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  On 2/1/2025 at 12:33 AM, Glen-i said:

A reminder that the FS Meter will be turned off this go around.

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I think the FS Meter is fine for stamina and time, it's only stock that I think we should try with it turned off.

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  On 2/1/2025 at 6:45 PM, Ike said:

I think the FS Meter is fine for stamina and time, it's only stock that I think we should try with it turned off.

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  On 2/1/2025 at 7:14 PM, BowserBasher said:

I like his idea @Glen-i. Stops jammy last stock wins. But may do no harm in timed or stamina. 

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OK, I'll put in on for those then.

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Thanks for the games. :smile:

Here's a link to this week's stream... :peace:

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That last match was hilarious.  I ain’t even mad (totes would’ve done the same thing if I were in his position).

KYEO2 is somehow even funnier than the original, bravo @RedShell:peace:

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Stock format tonight at 8pm.
Custom stages from 7:30.

Now this time, the FS Meter will be off for the Stock session. Smash Balls will still be around.

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