Serebii Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Is there a source/link for this? Various sources who have been confirmed to be right about things on NeoGAF. Nothing concrete though
Daft Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Yeah, I've found the post, just want something a little more sold for my nefarious needs. Microsoft really are acting like a bunch of assholes.
Cube Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 I can see EA using just XBones. However, Ubisoft seem to be very much in Sony's court. And Activision is split between the two: CoD is XBone first, Destiny is PS3/4 first.
Agent Gibbs Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Talk about damage control! I'd rather not see multiplat xbone versions only, i want to compare the systems not have bias especially for a console i've no interest in
Jimbob Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Yeah, sod that. Microsoft are getting it all wrong. In a way that they are trying to force people to get the One. Not a good move Microsoft.
madeinbeats Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Is there a source/link for this? Yep, as said just inside people on NeoGAF with good records for good inside info. There's another rumour they are in talks with Sky to distribute the XB to Sky subscribers for what might be a monthly fee instead of an outright payment. From what little research I've done, Sky boxes would appear to be compatible with the Xbone's HDMI-HCH requirement.
Agent Gibbs Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Yep, as said just inside people on NeoGAF with good records for good inside info. There's another rumour they are in talks with Sky to distribute the XB to Sky subscribers for what might be a monthly fee instead of an outright payment. From what little research I've done, Sky boxes would appear to be compatible with the Xbone's HDMI-HCH requirement. hmmm that slightly tempted me for a small amount of time, then i remembered all the PR disaster...e3 would need to be spectacular for me to consider it
Cube Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 Us "gamers" are a small portion of the market. I get the impression that Microsoft simply don't give a rat's arse about us. They're going full swing at the casual market and don't care how many dedicated fans they piss off. The mass media at E3 will lap everything up and it will be an astounding success for Microsoft (even if all gaming forums will state Microsoft's conference as a massive failure).
Agent Gibbs Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 thats the unfortunate truth isn't it? but it will hopefully take some heat off Nintendo if MicroSoft are aiming for the casuals and stupid motion controls, i'd be happy to see them go and it be a race between sony and Nintendo, as the two complement each other like Sega and Nintendo did, and the market would be a whole lot better if it were like those days
Daft Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Microsoft aren't going after any particular demographic. They're going after absolutely everyone. They'll be the jack of all trades, master of none. If they played it right, it could work...but their messaging is awful at the moment. There will be games for the hardcore.
Cube Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 I'm not saying here won't be hardcore games. They just don't care how much they piss off hardcore fans. Then again, I think they know that the majority of hardcore fans will give in anyway.
Agent Gibbs Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Like TitanFall? the game that will not be possible without the cloud? but yet its on 360 and PC also...
Daft Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I'm not saying here won't be hardcore games. They just don't care how much they piss off hardcore fans. Then again, I think they know that the majority of hardcore fans will give in anyway. I don't think it's that they don't care, I think they're naive enough to think they can have it all.
Nolan Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I don't think it's that they don't care, I think they're naive enough to think they can have it all. They didn't pay a lot of attention to the 2006 PS3 did they...
Daft Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 They reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaally didn't. At least Sony seems to have learnt something.
Jimbob Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Old N-Europer Jordan put this online earlier concerning the DRM for the Xbone. For those unsure, maybe this will decide you It's like... Microsoft just don't want you to buy their new console. Rules just came out about their DRM policies, they're fucking nuts. 1. Xbone requires a internet connection. If you don't check in within 24 hours, your system is essentially locked. 2. You can not borrow or rent games. 3. You CAN trade your games to friends but they must be on your friends list and once you trade it, it gets tied to their account. You can only trade the game ONE time. 4. Publishers will have the ability to block you from selling/trading the game. Just because they worded it differently doesn't make it better. Hahahaha.
Daft Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Please Mycr0sawft...please stop making my job so fucking hard.
Dcubed Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Here's the link... http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main Here are our platform policies and capabilities for game licensing – all of which will be made available when Xbox One launches later this year: Buy the way you want—disc or digital—on the same day: You’ll be able to buy disc-based games at traditional retailers or online through Xbox Live, on day of release. Discs will continue to be a great way to install your games quickly. Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required: After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games. Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you. (Oh gee, how fucking thoughtful of you MS!) Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time. Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games. Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once. In our role as a game publisher, Microsoft Studios will enable you to give your games to friends or trade in your Xbox One games at participating retailers. Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this. In addition, third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends. Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners. As we move into this new generation of games and entertainment, from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services, feedback from customers and our business partners or changes in our business priorities and business models or for other reasons. We may also cease to offer certain services or products for similar reasons. In the months ahead, we will continue to listen to your feedback as we meet with our partners in the ecosystem to bring additional detail about our policies. We are excited about this new generation of games and entertainment and look forward to sharing more news with our fans. So in short, no private selling, no renting, no borrowing, but you can, at the discretion of specific publishers, trade in your game at "participating retailers" and with a friend on your friends list (who has been on there for at least 30 days) - but only once, where access is removed from your account forever as a result; oh and the default is set to not allow trading of any kind whatsoever (the publisher has to "opt-in" to the scheme...); oh and the publishers take a cut of the retailer's trade-in value (so expect used game prices to rise and trade-in value to plummet) Also the 24 hour reconnection requirement is true (with it only allowing 1 hour of offline access on any console other than the one that was used to purchase/authenticate the game originally), meaning that your entire Xbone collection will be turned into useless coasters as soon as they shut down the servers. So yeah... it's more or less exactly as we feared. Go fuck yourself MS (and fuck you anyone who buys this anti-consumer/book burning POS, YOU are the problem!) Edited June 6, 2013 by Dcubed
Daft Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Personally I'm less bothered about the used game thing and more bothered about the online thang.
Rowan Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 It does sound like the publishers have pressured Microsoft to implement the selling games restrictions as the article seems to go out of its way to explain that Microsoft won't be receiving any money from trade ins. Does not bode well for PS4.
Dcubed Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Personally I'm less bothered about the used game thing and more bothered about the online thang. Yup, game preservation in general is fucked as a result of this. Want to play your favourite Xbone game 10 years from now? Nope, the servers are gone and thus the game does not exist anymore, you're screwed. Pirates and hackers will have a field day with this console. We can only hope that they are able to preserve the games released for the hardware and can save them from MS' tyrannical ticking time bomb cloud...
Cube Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 So, what they're essentially saying is that the XBone is not powerful enough to properly play XBone games.
bryanee Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I aint buying thiiiiiis. For the love of god don't let me down Sony.
Dcubed Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Best part about this is that it doesn't even mention the ramifications of what will happen when the servers go down
Diageo Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Yeah. This is the least appealing console I've seen to date.
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