Clownferret Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 must say I am very tempted by PS4 now. In part because Microsoft are making it look such a good console, a bit like when Wii U sales shot up after Xbox1 announcement. I really don't want to pay for online but if EA do a good version of Tiger Woods with move controls, then I could be tempted. And this is coming from somebody with no interest in PS4 or Xbox1, so it just shows how 3rd party publishers abandoning the Wii U is damaging.
dazzybee Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 It was a good conference, but I feel some balance and sense has been lost - the first hour was nothing short of awful. Token Vita and ps3 and way too long on TV/Music etc - the console itself is pretty ugly (I have not seen proper shots, just woken up from seeing it at the conference), it looks weirdly like the xbox, smaller, but probably not quite as nicely designed - paying for online if disgusting, people have been absolutely slating microsoft for year about this and how amazing sony are, sony start chanrging and everyone suddenly pulls out ms fans arguments - the services do cost a lot of money to run blah blah blah For me it's still not good enough, you're bringing the cloud in? Then let this only be used with plus, let all the additional services be chargeable; but the basic right to play online SHOULD ALWAYS BE FREE!!!! - there wasn't loads of new games. I expected much more to be honest, I though it'd be crazy. There is also a personal slant on this, I don't care for Final Fantasy any more, Kingdom Hearts is nice though. The thing that got me most excited in the whole conference was that indie game section, and I don't think they were even exclusive - the DRM, price etc etc YES it was amaizng to hear, but ONLY because of microsoft and people feared sony would follow suit. £350 is about right, not great, just right. The DRM issue shouldn't be celebrated, it should just be the way it is. Actually think it being region free is bigger news!! Saying all that. Great that plus is continuing and in such style giving a launch game day one. It is a decent price etc and I will 100% get a ps4, it looks to be a great console, and even though yesterdyas conferences show me more and more that Nintendo really are the company for me, there are a lot of games I do want to play, and I'll only do that on ps4/xb1, and in that fight it really isn't even a competition
Cube Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 - paying for online if disgusting, people have been absolutely slating microsoft for year about this and how amazing sony are, sony start chanrging and everyone suddenly pulls out ms fans arguments I've seen a ton of complaints about the pay to online thing. I never had much of a problem with Gold, and I was already committed to carrying on with Plus.
Daft Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Dazzy is right. But I'm finding it hard to complain about multiplayer being put behind something I need absolutely no convincing to buy in the first place. Hell, I feel it should cost more. At least you can still watch Netflix without Plus.
dazzybee Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I've seen a ton of complaints about the pay to online thing. I never had much of a problem with Gold, and I was already committed to carrying on with Plus. I have plus paid up to end of 2014, it's an amazing service; it's the principle of it, the business practice of it that Microsoft have been so lambasted for, Sony do it it's suddenly okay.
Rowan Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 @dazzybee, like you I was a little underwhelmed by the look of the box. But I think that was just down to the video feed. Just seen some press shots and it looks nice
dazzybee Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Dazzy is right. But I'm finding it hard to complain about multiplayer being put behind something I need absolutely no convincing to buy in the first place. Hell, I feel it should cost more. At least you can still watch Netflix without Plus. Yeah, that is weird that MS don't let you do that. Also, plus is infinitely better than live as well. How embarrassing was it that MS have copied the idea and their FLAGSHIP titles were Assassins Creed 2 and Halo 3?! Then Sony announce a PS4 launch title as a day one download on theirs? Brilliant
Daft Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Yeah, super happy about Drive Club. From my point of view I get a PS4 bundled with a free game. @dazzybee, like you I was a little underwhelmed by the look of the box. But I think that was just down to the video feed. Just seen some press shots and it looks nice I think it looks absolutely awesome. Is that blue strip a light?
Deathjam Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Personally I didn't want a next gen console because I have a gaming PC that fits my needs but the PS4 is almost too good to pass up and I actually pay for ps+ already. If the games are brought, I will buy.
James Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 - the DRM, price etc etc YES it was amaizng to hear, but ONLY because of microsoft and people feared sony would follow suit. £350 is about right, not great, just right. The DRM issue shouldn't be celebrated, it should just be the way it is. Actually think it being region free is bigger news!! I think your getting a hell a lot of grunt for 350 quid, the rrp on the dual shock controller is 50 quid on it's own, so let's say your getting a PS4 for 300 quid. I think its very good.
Rowan Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Yeah, super happy about Drive Club. From my point of view I get a PS4 bundled with a free game. I think it looks absolutely awesome. Is that blue strip a light? Must be, look how in the shot of the back of the box the strip is grey.
drahkon Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Hm, controllers at 59€ (probably). Fuck that's expensive. So no local multiplayer games for me for some time, unless my mates get a PS4, too. Edit: Don't know if it's been posted: You can upgrade PS4's HDD Edited June 11, 2013 by drahkon
drahkon Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 What I don't understand is, how can developers develop games for the XboxOne? Are they blinded by the money Microsoft seems to be giving them for exclusivity? Didn't they realize how the XboxOne has a huuuuge problem with all that allways-online DRM crap?
James Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 What I don't understand is, how can developers develop games for the XboxOne? Are they blinded by the money Microsoft seems to be giving them for exclusivity? Didn't they realize how the XboxOne has a huuuuge problem with all that allways-online DRM crap? They'll be more than happy to develop for the Xbone because of the DRM stuff, I'm more surprised they are not walking away from the PS4 to be honest.
drahkon Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 They'll be more than happy to develop for the Xbone because of the DRM stuff, I'm more surprised they are not walking away from the PS4 to be honest. Well, maybe I just don't understand how money flows in the industry. I thought that selling more games on a console that seems to be selling a lot more in the future will make more money than developing for a console that restricts selling of used games.
Agent Gibbs Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 that gif is all kinds of wrong and not because of its graphic content! without going into spoilers for Game of Thrones.....oh god how can i explain how poor a choice that is without GOT spoilers for people? Catelyn isn't dead.....they dump her cold dead corpse in the river, it floats down stream where the brotherhood without banners find it, and lord Beric (the guy who we've seen come back from the dead) sacrifices his own life and revives Catelyn who renames her self Lady Stoneheart and wages a war of vengeance on anyone she's perceived to have done her wrong so in this example it could suggest xbone rises from the grave and murders sony
Rowan Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Infamous Watch Dogs The Crew Destiny Mirrors Edge 2 The Division Battlefield Going to be an incredible (and expensive!) 12 months!!:awesome:
Agent Gibbs Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 The Crew ? which one was that? the tecnho 1886 london one? it thought that was The Order
Rowan Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 ? which one was that? the tecnho 1886 london one? it thought that was The Order http://www.n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37405
dwarf Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Since almost everybody will get PS+ now to play online, I wonder if the instant game collection offerings won't be quite so good... That was my immediate concern too. Sure they're launching with a bang with Drive Club, but I can't see the service being anywhere near as comprehensive as it was on the PS3. I know it's conjecture at this point but I'm guessing those indie games will be the 'free' game' at the end of three different months. Fuck that. Plus might fade away. Niggles aside, it was a good showing. I'm still holding out for that next big IP.
Daft Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 This might be a small consolation, President of Sony's Worldwide Studios tweets only 1 PS+ needed per console to play online.
drahkon Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I still don't have a problem with online play being part of PS+. But that's good to hear.
Shorty Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 InfamousWatch Dogs The Crew Destiny Mirrors Edge 2 The Division Battlefield Going to be an incredible (and expensive!) 12 months!!:awesome: Mirror's Edge 2 release date is "when it's ready", I wouldn't count on that coming within the first year of the console's lifespan.
Daft Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 This is an entertaining read, E3 2013: Sony press conference review.
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