Serebii Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 LTD across the same lifespan is just as valid really, the only difference monthly will show is the flow. But still, making any kind of comparison between different generations when the markets are so fundamentally different is a fools errand anyway. The market being different is exactly the point I've been making. It's contracting.
Josh64 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 @Serebii I don't think it's contracting at all, it's just far more diverse. It used to be nearly completely focused on the big 3 and PC, wheras now smartphones host a lot of indie titles, and as oppose to what used to generally be a hardcore audience, a huge amount of people now play games on PC thanks to the likes of Steam. Just look at the two billion dollar sell out of Minecraft or these huge releases such as GTA5 and Destiny, you'd never have had anything on that scale 15 years ago. Specific hardware might not be doing as well as before but I'd say gaming as a whole is a lot bigger now.
Wii Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I think the Wii is partly responsible for the way the market is now.
Goron_3 Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 The market being different is exactly the point I've been making. It's contracting. Gaming is far bigger now than it ever was. It's no longer something that only the 'hardcore' care about; Nintendo changed that with the Wii and it's continuing to expand and expand. The fact that gaming has overtaken Film in terms of revenue is spectacular.
Wii Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 This weeks UK sales chart. 1. (02) [360] FIFA 15 2. (01) [PS4] FIFA 15 3. (04) [PS3] FIFA 15 4. (NE) [PS4] Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor 5. (03) [XBO] FIFA 15 6. (NE) [XBO] Forza Horizon 2 7. (NE) [3DS] Super Smash Bros. 8. (NE) [XBO] Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor 9. (NE) [360] Forza Horizon 2 10. (05) [PS4] Destiny 11. (06) [XBO] Destiny 12. (NE) [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation Edition 13. (07) [360] Destiny 14. (08) [360] Minecraft: Xbox Edition 15. (12) [PS3] Minecraft: PlayStation Edition 16. (09) [PC] The Sims 4 17. (11) [PS3] Destiny 18. (13) [360] Disney Infinity 2.0 19. (14) [PS4] The Last of Us: Remastered 20. (17) [3DS] Tomodachi Life 21. (16) [PS4] Watch Dogs 22. (10) [3DS] Fantasy Life 23. (NE) [PC] Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor 24. (20) [360] Grand Theft Auto V 25. (15) [WIIU] Hyrule Warriors 26. (24) [360] Terraria 27. (19) [PS4] Call of Duty: Ghosts 28. (26) [WIIU] Mario Kart 8 29. (18) [VITA] FIFA 15 30. (25) [360] Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 31. (30) [DS] Frozen: Olaf’s Quest 32. (27) [360] The LEGO Movie Videogame 33. (22) [XBO] Call of Duty: Ghosts 34. (21) [PS3] Disney Infinity 2.0 35. (31) [PS4] Infamous: First Light 36. (38) [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V 37. (34) [360] Skate 3 38. (33) [360] LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 39. (NE) [PS4] Crimes & Punishments: Sherlock Holmes 40. (RE) [PS3] Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare Not overly impressed with Super Smash Bros. 3DS debut. I had hoped and expected better. Others have stated elsewhere how it's a sad reflection of the UK's gaming market.
Josh64 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I'm really surprised it's that low actually, I guess it doesn't help being released just after FIFA. But man, the UK's obsession with FIFA is beyond me.
khilafah Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 blame UK 3DS gamers for not buying it. watch the sales in france and germany go crazy! smash bros will have legs though and sales will pick up during the next half term.
Josh64 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Yeah hopefully, if Tomodachi life can have legs then hopefully Smash can too
liger05 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Media Create Sales: Week 40, 2014 (Sep 29 - Oct 05) 01./01. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.09.13} (¥5.616) - 105.619 / 1.481.438 (-4%) 02./00. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.10.02} (¥7.179) - 84.935 / NEW 03./04. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 62.887 / 2.655.326 (-6%) 04./00. [3DS] Kinki no Magna <SLG> (Marvelous) {2014.10.02} (¥6.458) - 23.250 / NEW 05./03. [PSV] DanganRonpa: Another Episode <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2014.09.25} (¥7.020) - 15.334 / 85.930 (-78%) 06./02. [PSV] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2014.09.25} (¥7.344) - 11.600 / 97.884 (-87%) 07./05. [PS3] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2014.09.25} (¥8.424) - 9.645 / 75.143 (-85%) 08./00. [PS4] Omega Quintet # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2014.10.02} (¥7.538) - 9.365 / NEW 09./00. [PSV] Ar Nosurge Plus: Ode to an Unborn Star # <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.10.02} (¥6.264) - 9.240 / NEW 10./09. [PS3] Destiny <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.09.11} (¥8.532) - 7.317 / 87.307 (-40%) 11./07. [WIU] Fatal Frame: Oracle of the Sodden Raven <ADV> (Nintendo) {2014.09.27} (¥7.128) - 7.105 / 34.610 (-74%) 12./00. [PSV] Ciel Nosurge Offline: Ushinawareta Hoshi e Sasagu Uta # <ETC> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.10.02} (¥6.264) - 7.078 / NEW 13./00. [3DS] Nazotoki Battle Tore! Densetsu no Makyuu o Fukkatsu Saseyo! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.10.02} (¥5.119) - 6.739 / NEW 14./06. [3DS] Haikyu!! Tsunage! Itadaki no Keshiki!! # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.09.25} (¥6.145) - 4.777 / 48.615 (-89%) 15./11. [3DS] Dragon Quest X Online <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.09.04} (¥4.104) - 4.696 / 101.145 (-34%) 16./15. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) - 4.517 / 682.767 (-24%) 17./00. [PS3] F1 2014 <RCE> (Codemasters) {2014.10.02} (¥7.992) - 4.366 / NEW 18./08. [PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2: Ouritsu Tokoshan to Mamono no Fuuin # <RPG> (Aqua Plus) {2014.09.25} (¥6.264) - 3.843 / 20.303 (-77%) 19./13. [PS4] Destiny # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.09.11} (¥8.532) - 3.442 / 114.214 (-47%) 20./12. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.09.20} (¥8.316) - 3.398 / 49.196 (-51%) Top 20 3DS - 6 PSV - 5 PS3 - 4 WIU - 3 PS4 - 2 HARDWARE Code: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3DS # | 22.490 | 30.439 | 122.987 | 1.600.415 | 3.230.082 | 16.262.335 | | PSV # | 14.432 | 16.716 | 3.538 | 929.199 | 713.636 | 3.284.556 | | WIU | 7.805 | 9.950 | 4.001 | 422.612 | 461.349 | 1.948.042 | | PS4 | 7.350 | 8.033 | | 733.429 | | 733.429 | | PS3 | 5.365 | 6.026 | 10.232 | 384.303 | 650.373 | 10.093.977 | | XB1 | 1.062 | 1.113 | | 32.178 | | 32.178 | | PSP # | 84 | 102 | 4.093 | 97.323 | 377.546 | 20.165.732 | | 360 | 80 | 143 | 354 | 8.516 | 19.900 | 1.647.832 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ALL | 58.668 | 72.522 | 146.119 | 4.207.975 | 5.514.708 | 54.168.081 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PSVTV | 922 | 977 | | 63.817 | | 140.061 | | PSV | 13.510 | 15.739 | 3.538 | 865.382 | 713.636 | 3.144.495 | | 3DSLL | 16.130 | 22.988 | 85.885 | 1.210.417 | 2.197.464 | 6.636.303 | | 3DS | 6.360 | 7.451 | 37.102 | 389.998 | 1.032.618 | 9.626.032 | | PSP | 84 | 102 | 4.093 | 97.323 | 377.546 | 19.989.745 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SSB holding very well. PS4 just fell behind Dreamcast this week. 33 Weeks launch aligned: DC: 724,257 PS4: 717,338 Ouch
Hero-of-Time Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 Smokey Dave ( love that guy ) from Gaf posted this in regards to the numbers. Lister: Where is everyone Hol?Holly: They're dead Dave. Lister: Who is? Holly: Everybody Dave. Lister: What, the Wii U? Holly: Everybody's dead Dave. Lister: What, the PS4? Holly: Everybody's dead Dave. Lister: What, the XBone?? Holly: They're all dead, everybody's dead Dave. Lister: 3DS isn't, is it? Holly: Everybody is dead Dave. Lister: Not the Vita? Holly: Gorden Bennet, yes the Vita, everybody, everybody's dead Dave. Lister: The PSP? Holly: It's dead Dave, everybody's dead, everybody is dead Dave. Lister: Wait, are you trying to tell me everybody's dead? He wins internet points for the fitting RD reference.
Rummy Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 @SerebiiI don't think it's contracting at all, it's just far more diverse. It used to be nearly completely focused on the big 3 and PC, wheras now smartphones host a lot of indie titles, and as oppose to what used to generally be a hardcore audience, a huge amount of people now play games on PC thanks to the likes of Steam. Just look at the two billion dollar sell out of Minecraft or these huge releases such as GTA5 and Destiny, you'd never have had anything on that scale 15 years ago. Specific hardware might not be doing as well as before but I'd say gaming as a whole is a lot bigger now. Gaming is far bigger now than it ever was. It's no longer something that only the 'hardcore' care about; Nintendo changed that with the Wii and it's continuing to expand and expand. The fact that gaming has overtaken Film in terms of revenue is spectacular. Both bang on, imo. The 'market' has grown! Instead of having just one or two stalls selling their very specific sorts of produce, you've got more that are offering different things. It literally is like a market that has grown. I know people playing games I'd never have once seen playing them(additionally including smartphone/social media etc games - whether you agree with them or not it is part of the gaming market). Even people who used to play games a bit are still playing games but I find they're playing more with it. There's some who are the old grannies who don't like what the market's become though, saying how it isn't like it used to be, that Edna gets her apples somewhere else now and that's the fault of everyone else, but really...I just see it as all being good. More people to meet, more conversations to be had, just more, in lots of ways. Things change, and it can be a shame to lose what we once knew, but I'm not going to pretend it's fine or terrible and just lust after the 'good ol' glory days', I find it exciting when I really think about it all. Smokey Dave ( love that guy ) from Gaf posted this in regards to the numbers. He wins internet points for the fitting RD reference. I'm really surprised it's that low actually, I guess it doesn't help being released just after FIFA. But man, the UK's obsession with FIFA is beyond me. Think as well though - how big's the WiiU/3DS/Nintendo and then Smash market over here? We aren't the biggest isle, economy's still a bit wank for some, and there's still plenty of time. Why would you jump on Smash3DS right now? Like actual question, why would you need to jump on release? I'm 50/50 on it, getting more tempted by the day, but really I'm keener for it on WiiU - with money being tight and making a choice - would I double-dip for both or just wait out the WiiU version? I think it'll pick up with time. Maybe much more in next couple of weeks - I'd guess maybe the UK is a more skeptical/cautious market atm, and waiting to see the worth. I for one have been trying to get word of mouth impressions before I buy it(did everyone get that advance demo btw, or just us? I found it...different, with that) and I'll probably eventually pick it up cos Smash, but I'm in no great rush after my existing 6 year wait and a wealth of other content on my 3DS.
Blade Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Smokey Dave ( love that guy ) from Gaf posted this in regards to the numbers. He wins internet points for the fitting RD reference. I don't get it
Hero-of-Time Posted October 10, 2014 Author Posted October 10, 2014 I don't get it If you don't watch Red Dwarf you won't. If you do and still don't get the reference them you deserve a slap.
Rummy Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 I don't get it Stop whatever you're doing in life and watch Red Dwarf. Quintessential British.
Debug Mode Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) With the New 3DS making its debut today, I wonder how it'll register in the sales data next week. Just to get a slight hint of how things might go down, I had a look at Amazon's website and the data I could scrounge from there. It's best to note that the Japanese aren't into online retail much. The most popular of the two models, surprisingly (to me at least), is the New 3DS XL. I had a feeling that the smaller model would be more popular with the changeable faceplates. Both colours are sold out and are only available through merchants, which are all ready selling it at a marked up price (Around £20-30 more than the RRP) The smaller model is still in stock with no hint of Amazon running out of stock soon, as there is no limited stock warning. Edited October 10, 2014 by Debug Mode
Wii Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 I expect a massive spike in 3DS sales next week, helped in no small part by MH4U. It'll make for some interesting reading.
Glen-i Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Geez, the amount of FIFA in that UK chart makes me slightly embarrassed. If I weren't on my phone, I'd find that clip of Mrs. Doyle saying "It's just a stupid game of football!"
Hero-of-Time Posted October 11, 2014 Author Posted October 11, 2014 Geez, the amount of FIFA in that UK chart makes me slightly embarrassed. If I weren't on my phone, I'd find that clip of Mrs. Doyle saying "It's just a stupid game of football!" It's a great game and has really brought together the community on here. We ( myself, lostmario, Dazzybee, Esquiel, Sexual Chocolate, Gmac and soon Fierce Link ) play Pro Clubs on the PS4 a few times a week and it's a right laugh. We all get in party chat and just enjoy the banter while taking on the world. Team N-E is on the rise!
Fierce_LiNk Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Geez, the amount of FIFA in that UK chart makes me slightly embarrassed. Why? The only embarrassing thing about it is the fact that it's not coming to the WiiU. The game itself is great. I'm really enjoying it.
lostmario Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Geez, the amount of FIFA in that UK chart makes me slightly embarrassed. If I weren't on my phone, I'd find that clip of Mrs. Doyle saying "It's just a stupid game of football!" Comments like that about Fifa will force me to remove you from my Wii U friend list! You know what the repercussion of that would be.
Glen-i Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Comments like that about Fifa will force me to remove you from my Wii U friend list! You know what the repercussion of that would be. OK, could have worded it better. Sorry about that. I am not a football fan, never have been. So I'm never gonna understand why it's so loved. But if you enjoy it. Great! More props to you.
Rummy Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 I'm not much of a FIFA guy myself(and very sporadically football, usually national/passing games) but I can see why it's so big given that football's so big, and I know a lot of people who like/enjoy it. Can't say I get the same buzz, but I guess it's being a bit shy to the subject material. The thing I take from so much FIFA in the charts is, as I mentioned in the previous post, the sheer diversity it hints at. Both between hardware platforms and between people actually playing games(ie are there more people playing FIFA now than there were 10-20 years ago?)
Wii Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 This weeks UK Top 40: 1. (01) [360] FIFA 15 2. (02) [PS4] FIFA 15 3. (NE) [PS4] Driveclub 4. (03) [PS3] FIFA 15 5. (NE) [PS4] Alien: Isolation 6. (04) [PS4] Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor 7. (05) [XBO] FIFA 15 8. (06) [XBO] Forza Horizon 2 9. (NE) [XBO] Alien: Isolation 10. (08) [XBO] Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor 11. (07) [3DS] Super Smash Bros 12. (09) [360] Forza Horizon 2 13. (NE) [360] Alien: Isolation 14. (10) [PS4] Destiny 15. (NE) [PS4] NBA 2K15 16. (14) [360] Minecraft: Xbox Edition 17. (11) [XBO] Destiny 18. (12) [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation Edition 19. (NE) [PS3] Alien: Isolation 20. (15) [PS3] Minecraft: PlayStation Edition 21. (13) [360] Destiny 22. (NE) [XBO] NBA 2K15 23. (16) [PC] The Sims 4 24. (17) [PS3] Destiny 25. (NE) [PS4] Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition 26. (18) [360] Disney Infinity 2.0 27. (19) [PS4] The Last of Us: Remastered 28. (20) [3DS] Tomodachi Life 29. (24) [360] Grand Theft Auto V 30. (NE) [PC] Alien: Isolation 31. (26) [360] Terraria 32. (30 [360] Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 33. (28) [WIIU] Mario Kart 8 34. (31) [DS] Frozen: Olaf’s Quest 35. (32) [360] The LEGO Movie Videogame 36. [NE] [360] NBA 2K15 37. (29) [VITA] FIFA 15 38. (21) [PS4] Watch Dogs 39. (22) [3DS] Fantasy Life 40. (NE) [XBO] Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition 11 Xbox360 10 PS4 9 XBO 4 PS3 3 3DS 2 PC 1 DS 1 Wii U
Wii Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Where's Hyrule Warriors? Completely bombed. It's dead Dave. It lasted 2 weeks in the top 40 which is 2 more than a lot of other Wii U games did. But ya it bombed.
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