Goafer Posted October 24, 2010 Author Share Posted October 24, 2010 Do the 360 sticks keep their tighter feeling of control, or is this simply just a case of getting some concave sticks. Just a case of having concave sticks really. I suppose it would be possible to transfer the whole stick (electrics and all) to keep the feeling of the 360 pad, but to be honest it's too much work, involves soldering and I didn't realise there was a difference in feeling. err... It's not even expensive... And it's absolutely perfect, you have my word. I looked into those ages ago, but when I was looking the trigger buttons weren't analogue when using it. Have they fixed that yet? Also, it was too expensive (£60 on Amazon). I just had a couple of spare 360 pads since my 360 RROD'd so figured I'd spruce up my PS3 pads. Also also, they adapter is kind of pointless now that this is out. Especially considering that you'll need to buy the adapter and a 360 pad if you don't already own a 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Just a case of having concave sticks really. I suppose it would be possible to transfer the whole stick (electrics and all) to keep the feeling of the 360 pad, but to be honest it's too much work, involves soldering and I didn't realise there was a difference in feeling. I looked into those ages ago, but when I was looking the trigger buttons weren't analogue when using it. Have they fixed that yet? Also, it was too expensive (£60 on Amazon). I just had a couple of spare 360 pads since my 360 RROD'd so figured I'd spruce up my PS3 pads. Also also, they adapter is kind of pointless now that this is out. Especially considering that you'll need to buy the adapter and a 360 pad if you don't already own a 360. Has some awful reviews though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goafer Posted October 24, 2010 Author Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) Has some awful reviews though... Yeah. From what I've read some people love it and some people hate it. I think there is a better one from a different company coming out soonish. I have also read awful reviews of the XCM too. I guess both depend on how fussy you are when it comes to pads. I'm not that bothered. I used to hate the PS3 pad, but now I can deal with it although I do prefer the 360 pad. Also, the tutorial again since it might be missed at the bottom of the last page: Since other people seem to want to have a go at this, I thought I'd put together a quick tutorial whilst I was doing my second pad. Turns out a current Dual Shock pad is much easier to put back together than an old SixAxis (not sure about the early DualShock pads or later SixAxis ones. There have been several revisions). If you look at your L1/L2 buttons and see if there is a separate bit of plastic between them. If the divide between them is part of the back panel (no seams), it's easier to put back together. If the divide between them is separate from the front and back, it's a bit tricky, but doable. I have no patience and I managed to get it back together. Stuff You'll Need Wire cutters to cut the sticks with Hex set to take apart the 360 pad Screwdriver to take apart the PS3 pad PS3 Pad 360 Pad (or just the sticks) Taking Apart the 360 Pad 3 screws on either side and 1 in the middle under the barcode sticker. It took me a while to find the middle screw since I figured there would be one under the bigger sticker. It's the smaller barcode sticker that the screw is under. I unplugged the rumble motors to make things easier. There are no screws holding the circuit board to the front of the pad, so just jiggle it around for a bit and it should come away, revealing the lovely sticks. They just slide off of the electrics. I didn't bother reassembling the 360 pad as it was pretty knackered anyway. I had a look to see if the PS3 sticks work on the 360. They do, but you'll need to stuff something down the hole of the PS3 sticks as they are deeper than the 360 ones. Taking Apart the PS3 Pad Six normal screws. There are no screws under the stickers, so you don't have to worry about battered/missing stickers on the finished product. The battery is just rested on a plastic tray. Unplug it from the board (just pull it). This screw holds the board to the front of the pad. Unscrew it and juggle the board free. The rumble motors are soldered to the board so be careful not to yank them out. I didn't really touch the motors, but they seemed to be secure to the front panel, so be careful not to yank at the wires too much. There isn't much room to maneuver the board to get to the sticks. The inner stick has to be cut since the 360 sticks are shallower than the PS3's. I cut mine about here, but you could cut less and keep cutting more to suit. I wasn't precise with either of my pads and they work just fine. Trial and error is a good bet. Just screw the circuit board back onto the front of the pad and you'll soon see if the inner stick is too long. Then just put the pad back together the same way it was taken apart. Don't forget to put the battery back in though. I did that on the first one! Edited October 24, 2010 by Goafer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Yeah. From what I've read some people love it and some people hate it. I think there is a better one from a different company coming out soonish. I have also read awful reviews of the XCM too. I guess both depend on how fussy you are when it comes to pads. I'm not that bothered. I used to hate the PS3 pad, but now I can deal with it although I do prefer the 360 pad. Also, the tutorial again since it might be missed at the bottom of the last page: yeah the raven that ones called! I dunno i just have this inherent distrust of third party controllers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Don't really have a problem with any controllers. Although I think the PS3 one looks cheap. The only thing that hurts is the DS, that after a while makes my hands numb depending on position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 err... It's not even expensive... And it's absolutely perfect, you have my word. Where did you get it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxigen_Waste Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Play Asia. And yes, it's fixed, goafer. You can even switch buttons around now, so you can play FPS's with the triggers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choze Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 The 360 pads are pretty much annoying besides the triggers. It feels as if they wanted to indent or add a feel/shape to everything. Unfortunately it makes the controller feel uncomfy. The buttons and sticks grate after any decent amount of play. Move has a really nice trigger('influenced' no doubt) that Sony should copy though. I hope they copy the feel of that as its solid. So hopefully they all use that in the next pads. Ninty and MS need to also perhaps spend afew more pennies making their build quality better. One of the obvious differences is the lower dpi/sensitivity on 360 and especially Wii compared to PS3 games. Wii is just hopeless, its closer to a digital stick than anlogue on fine movement. I tested COD and you can aim faster yet have more control on the DS3 than the 360 or sixaxis pad. Having said that on actual targets the auto aim works either way. On HD TV's the extra dpi helps. Try playing GT5 Prologue with Sixaxis and then DS3. Its a huge difference. I cant play with the sixaxis at all on that or fps games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Choze, as always, never fails to make me laugh at his persistent fanboyism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 ...he's actually right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Nuh-uh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Choze, as always, never fails to make me laugh at his persistent fanboyism. yup.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I don't have a problem at all with the sticks, however this looks cool. And I am so down with cool things, so much so that I may give this a try. I have several PS3 controllers and no friends so its no problem. :p Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxigen_Waste Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 The 360 pads are pretty much annoying besides the triggers. It feels as if they wanted to indent or add a feel/shape to everything. Unfortunately it makes the controller feel uncomfy. The buttons and sticks grate after any decent amount of play. Move has a really nice trigger('influenced' no doubt) that Sony should copy though. I hope they copy the feel of that as its solid. So hopefully they all use that in the next pads. Ninty and MS need to also perhaps spend afew more pennies making their build quality better. One of the obvious differences is the lower dpi/sensitivity on 360 and especially Wii compared to PS3 games. Wii is just hopeless, its closer to a digital stick than anlogue on fine movement. I tested COD and you can aim faster yet have more control on the DS3 than the 360 or sixaxis pad. Having said that on actual targets the auto aim works either way. On HD TV's the extra dpi helps. Try playing GT5 Prologue with Sixaxis and then DS3. Its a huge difference. I cant play with the sixaxis at all on that or fps games. Your relation with Sony is like my grandma's relation with the catholic church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Your relation with Sony is like my grandma's relation with the catholic church. theres a joke waiting to be written to that and I've written so many things and deleted them but just can't nail it (not your grandma before someone beats me to it)...hmph.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goafer Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 I did notice that the PS3 pad (especially the DualShock) seemed to be put together better when I was taking them apart. The circuit board and rumble motors were just wedged between the 2 halves of the controller on the 360 pad, whereas the PS3 controller had the rumble motors secured to the front panel and the board screwed down. Still doesn't change the fact that the triggers are shit (the fact that the real triggers even exist proves that), the left stick is in the wrong place and both sticks are stupidly shaped. I don't despise the PS3 pad as much as I used to, but I still can't say I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 FYI I'm going to delete any fanboyish posts from now on. I'd rather this thread concentrated on the modding angle, or at the very least a weighted and unbiased opinion must occur at some point in the post. I.E. If your post annoys me, I'll delete it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 FYI I'm going to delete any fanboyish posts from now on. I'd rather this thread concentrated on the modding angle, or at the very least a weighted and unbiased opinion must occur at some point in the post. I.E. If your post annoys me, I'll delete it. good idea if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Are we allowed to annoy you in a non-fanboy way? Like calling you a big girly-boy? The step-by-step post Goaferboy did was awesome. Mad propz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Yeah that's still cool. I'll just ban and shit. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddage Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 All done! Took me ages to get the back of the case on once I was finished, I thought I had to be really precise and was worried about messing up the triggers (they can be a bitch ), but once I found the knack i could pop it off and on in an instant. Haven't actually tried playing a game yet bet I turned the ps3 on and they still work fine in the menus. Took some pictures as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 You could just buy some of these. Never heard of the website, though. I'm sure there's other online shops that sell them, i just can't be arsed looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 You could just buy some of these. Never heard of the website, though. I'm sure there's other online shops that sell them, i just can't be arsed looking. yeah they are the ones i saw on ebay that nando compared to refreshers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddage Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 But changing the sticks is much more fun Plus I'd probably lose those cover things in about 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choze Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 yeah they are the ones i saw on ebay that nando compared to refreshers... There is one by gioteck too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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