D_prOdigy Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 So who won in your area? Are you happy? Did you vote? Do you care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The fish Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I didn't win, but the Lib Dem's won my local council, which is a little unexpected (but very welcome). St. Albans (constituency-wise) is a Labour stronghold, and Harpenden & Hitchen is a Conservative one. I live in Harpenden, making my vote in general elections effectively worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roostophe Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I completely forgot! Let me just see... Birmingham: No change. So we must still be under Tories, then. I think... Yep. Still Tory. I didn't vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaggis Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I wish the Lib Dems would have had the majority. Labour and Conservatives are as bad as each other though at the moment I'm loathing Labour that little bit extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 We didn't have an election up here in Shetland... because we're part of Scotland. Anyway, Halifax again has no over all control. But there was a supprisingly high amount of conservative votes, considering the area. Good for Halifax, Labour need to get the fuck out. Then again, its basically the lesser of x evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergrunch Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I'm sorry to say I didn't vote anywhere, because I was way too busy, but it seems the independent councilor of my ward in Cambridge was re-elected. Which is good, he sent round a manifesto saying that he was going to try and remove traffic from the EVIL ROAD OF DEATH that runs through my college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_prOdigy Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 Well Labour "held on to" Manchester, but Lib Dems are always a close second, so I can't win either way. Interestingly, the Tories got into office just next door with Oldham. I would never be a big enough cock to actually vote Conservative, but sometimes I think it might make a change to sweaty, obese bores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzybee Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 People have short memeories if they hate Labour over conservative. Remember that people ONLY look at what governments do wrong, the nagtives, and although there is a lot to complain about; things would be a lot worse under the C's! A lot worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 People have short memeories if they hate Labour over conservative. Remember that people ONLY look at what governments do wrong, the nagtives, and although there is a lot to complain about; things would be a lot worse under the C's! A lot worse! How could things be ANY worse? Lying, corrupt government spin Inflation is extremely high, no matter what the government say 10p tax rate removal Tax, tax, tax the poor. Benefits to those who don't need it. Some of the most stupid laws ever seen. Not enough prisons. Too much illegal immigration. Failing Schools in some areas Some terrible hospitals (remember the MRSA thing?) Where the hell have you been the last 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_prOdigy Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 The thing is, I would trust Brown to the grave with my wallet, but as for running the country? Right here and now, I can honestly say "Bring Blair back". That, or a serious shift in constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroScap Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 How could things be ANY worse? Lying, corrupt government spin conservatives had their fair share ala john major's reign Inflation is extremely high, no matter what the government say 10p tax rate removal Tax, tax, tax the poor. Benefits to those who don't need it. elaborate? Some of the most stupid laws ever seen. elaborate? Not enough prisons. always been a problem Too much illegal immigration. Failing Schools in some areas Some terrible hospitals (remember the MRSA thing?) MRSA was a time bomb, just depended on whos lap it fell upon. Where the hell have you been the last 10 years? Generally the only thing I think labour has done wrong is the whole iraq business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_prOdigy Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 MRSA needed not to be a timebomb. Cleaner hospitals is all it would have taken to prevent it from materializing. And yes, overcrowded prisons have always been a problem, so where was the will to solve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 In spite of my vote North Tyneside went to the Tories. May be for the best long-term, the Conservatives have been impotent for so long I think people have started to forget what a bunch of slimey bastards they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 MRSA needed not to be a timebomb. Cleaner hospitals is all it would have taken to prevent it from materializing. And yes, overcrowded prisons have always been a problem, so where was the will to solve it? Labour completely screwed the NHS, they aren't brave enough to listen to the people on the ground so they constantly kept re-shuffling everything to make their stats look better and and just fucked it. Pretol prices are ongoingly disturbing but I'm not sure if that's the governments fault. There are also members of the cabinet that should have been fired long ago as their blunderings are just astonishing (Jaqui Smith). I must admit that I'm disillusioned with British politics atm because firstly, I don't really understand Economics, which leaves out about half of what the Government talk about for me as a subject of interest. Secondly, no one seems to be able to solve a problem without doing it in the most complicated way possible, I want down to earth and non-convoluted solutions (so do the NHS!). Thirdly, how am I meant to vote for someone? Do I look at the personality of the party or what they stand for? Look at the candidate and his manifesto? No... cos thats all bullshit. I can't trust any party I elect to keep their promises and Gordon Brown is the prime fucking example. No one seems that bothered about actually running the country, more trying to keep shit off their face in any-which-way possible, while trying to come up with unnecessary schemes to solve issues which are presently being sorted by plans already laid down, but they have to stamp all over those because they were made by the opposition in the previous term. Nobody seems bothered about actually finding the best solution to a problem, just the one that suits the party personality. It's not politics, it's marketting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtle Squad Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 No...I don't care...Because the country will always be shit. And everyone will always be ripped off. Until someone comes up with a policy of normal wages for MPs & councils, then I'll certainly never vote for anyone. "We're going to take everyones money and pay ourselves loads of it, instead of putting it to use to help the country, while most of you are earning fuck all." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 No...I don't care...Because the country will always be shit. And everyone will always be ripped off. Until someone comes up with a policy of normal wages for MPs & councils, then I'll certainly never vote for anyone. "We're going to take everyones money and pay ourselves loads of it, instead of putting it to use to help the country, while most of you are earning fuck all." This as well! (thought my rant was long enough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I'm not sure if anyone else here is pushing 30 and old enough to remember what the NHS (or what was left of it) was like under the Tories, but if you think it's bad now I suggest getting in a DeLorean and setting the dial to the late 80s/early 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navarre Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I voted for Boris, if only because he's the closest thing to a comedy character we'll ever get as mayor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I voted for Boris, if only because he's the closest thing to a comedy character we'll ever get as mayor. Indeed, he gets the "lol legend" vote. Great if he's opening a sports centre or dressing up as Widow Twankey at christmas, but I wouldn't really want him leading my city in the aftermath of a terroist attack or natural disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I'm not sure if anyone else here is pushing 30 and old enough to remember what the NHS (or what was left of it) was like under the Tories, but if you think it's bad now I suggest getting in a DeLorean and setting the dial to the late 80s/early 90s. Yep sure that's true (I've been told about this rather than knowing myself) but the Labour government has turned the whole system on it's head. For most staff involved, the whole situation is a nightmare. It's a combination of constant re-organisation, leading to instability and the feeling of the government on their back to achieve targets of statistics which are unrepresentative of the success of their work. All that these people want to do is get down to it and do their job not spend most of their time ticking boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzybee Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 How could things be ANY worse? Lying, corrupt government spin Inflation is extremely high, no matter what the government say 10p tax rate removal Tax, tax, tax the poor. Benefits to those who don't need it. Some of the most stupid laws ever seen. Not enough prisons. Too much illegal immigration. Failing Schools in some areas Some terrible hospitals (remember the MRSA thing?) Where the hell have you been the last 10 years? Jordan you are talking so much shit! How old was you befire Labour? Do you know much about world politics or the history of politics in this country! All governments lye, corrupt and spin! They always will. Partly for security, partly to keep people at ease, partly to keep themselevs in power. This isn't a new way of governing labour created. Tax the poor? Everyone's taxed, and although there's been some big errors I gernerally agree with tax in a big way, I have major socialist beliefs; I personally would be better off under the C's but I would rather live in a fairer society; remember under the C's the gap between the richest and the poorest was at its biggest - the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. benefits to those who don't need it. Care to ellaborate? And I would suggest stop reading the Daily Mail. Stupid laws? What NEW laws have labour implemented then? Banning smoking? Best thing to happen to this country in my life time. Not enough prisons? Yeah, labours fault that, Good one. Too much illegal immigration, I would agree it is pretty high, but it's blown completely our of proportion. Also, is it labours fault that systems that were in place long before they got in power ended up biting them on the bum? Failing schools in some areas? I actually laughed at this. How despearte a critiscism is this? "Some" schools will always fail Generally, the schooling situation is greatly improved across the board. Conditions for teaching is a different matter though MSRA? Yup I remember, and things like that have never happened before. The NHS is a great thing and something I am very proud Britain to have, I think people need to look in the history books, or hospital services over the world. Is it perfect? Not by a strecth and hopefully will be improved greatly; but to attack labour for its poorness is either deeply unfair, or greatly uneducated. The typical British way is to be insanely pessimistic and irrationally cynical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Dare Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I voted for Boris, if only because he's the closest thing to a comedy character we'll ever get as mayor. you stupid, stupid muppet. God, he's fucking winning aswell, the racist tory shit for brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I voted for Lib Dems. My first vote too. Dunno if it changed around here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raining_again Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 To everyone mentioning MRSA.... The nhs over here has gone through a massive reform. They are cutting costs everywhere, including things like heart failure clinics..and reducing the frequency of bloods tests for patients. The staff are absolutely stretched to the limit on the ground. We all get pulled in after 3 occasions of sick in a year. >_> All in the mindset of saving money. People are sent home with mrsa these days, that is how commonplace it is! And there's a new one developing called C-Diff, so it may appear in the news soon enough. I'm not overly sure whether it is government to blame. I think it could be the very highest of the board governers of each trust. I only get to vote locally in this country, apparently they are meant to represent our views or some shit. I'm not really that interested in politics as long as they keep the troubles long behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The fish Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 How could things be ANY worse? Lying, corrupt government spin Yeah, because no other government ever did that... Inflation is extremely high, no matter what the government say It's not that high, no where near that of the dollar, and it's a good thing, anyway - makes us more likely to want the Euro 10p tax rate removal Tax, tax, tax the poor. I'd take that over the Tory method of "look, this man has loads of money! Let's tax him next to nothing!" Benefits to those who don't need it. Eh? Some of the most stupid laws ever seen. Again, eh? Not enough prisons. Always been an issue Too much illegal immigration. There's not that much - sure you don't mean too much legal immigration because of the EU? Failing Schools in some areas Always an issue, and there are less now than ever before Some terrible hospitals (remember the MRSA thing?) The NHS can be fixed VERY easily, with one simple action that'll trigger it healing itself - do what was done to the Bank of England. Make it autonomous of politics. Where the hell have you been the last 10 years? Labour are by no means a "good" government, however, they are not a "bad" government, which is what the last Tory government was. Blair/Brown have been one of the best governments in, like, ever. Britain has a terrible thing about overlooking the positive things about governments. There were some good things from Thatcher. I'll list them: Birmingham bypass, reducing the power of the Unions, and the Falklands. Thing is, that's about it... Labour did many, many better things and many less harmful bad things. Iraq was good, but it was done for the wrong reasons. Afghanistan was very, very good as an idea, but then again, I'd take Stalin over the Taliban. And I don't like Commies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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