Tellyn Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 It's Jack Bauer, filming the new season of 24, disguised as a rock. On Mars. HENDERSOOOOOOOOOOOOOON But the film's a saddening bore. 'Cause I've seen it ten times or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninty 182 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Jesus Christ fellas, if this were genuine we'd be invaded by now. Why's that? If there is any kind of lifeform on Mars (or indeed any other planet) they're not necassarily going to be more advanced than us. That's just science fiction -------- unless you said that as a joke and I've been really geeky and taken it seriously but yeah definately a rock It's a god-awful small affair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 From Ibiza to the Norfolk Broads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellyn Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 More Bowie magic is needed. And back on topic I still don't understand how life could even survive. Would it eat sand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokhed00 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 More Bowie magic is needed. And back on topic I still don't understand how life could even survive. Would it eat sand? Silicon based life form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellyn Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Silicon based life form. I've read this before but Wikipedia knows how to word it: The Earth, as well as other terrestrial planets, is exceptionally silicon-rich and carbon-poor. However, terrestrial life is carbon-based. The fact that carbon, though rare, has proven to be much more successful as a life base than the much more abundant silicon may be evidence that silicon is poorly suited for biochemistry on Earth-like planets. Plus one of the few silicon based creatures on Earth is a form of algae, I doubt something that big could evolve on Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Silicon based life form. See, now that idea's totally robbed from Stargate . It could be possible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Silicon based life form.Yeah, although silicon is the only common element that bonds four times besides carbon, apparently it doesn't support large structures of atoms that well. If it's really hard to synthesize the silicon equivalent of hexane already, it's probably near impossible for self-replicating molecules to develop the silicon equivalent of DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindFreak Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 It's a mouse. On Mars. Probably riding a bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McPhee Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Yeah, although silicon is the only common element that bonds four times besides carbon, apparently it doesn't support large structures of atoms that well. If it's really hard to synthesize the silicon equivalent of hexane already, it's probably near impossible for self-replicating molecules to develop the silicon equivalent of DNA. What you mean is that we can't do it. It doesn't mean it's impossible, or even unlikely, to state so is to be ignorant. But yeah, it's most likely a rock. NASA wouldn't have released the pic if they thought it was a living creature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Didn't they find life (worms) in one of Jupiter's moons or something? Or did I dream that? Anyway, about the Mars pic, you already know the answer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caris Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Scarecrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris the great Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 literaly coulden't be a more obvious rock. the reason so few people belive in life on mars is because it lacks two things 1. an atmospher 2. water, due to fact one. side note, who cares? we cant reach each outher, if we could its unlikly we can comunicate beyond a recongintion of each outhers affect on the outher. and if we could comunicate, what use would it be? our existances would be so different there would be nothing of value to trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 What you mean is that we can't do it. It doesn't mean it's impossible, or even unlikely, to state so is to be ignorant.Hey hey now, I said nearly impossible. I didn't rule it out, chances are really slim though. The fact that we can't produce it ourselves is a strong indication of the difficulty in nature, as synthesis is an optimised process, very effective on small molecules. Chances of it happening are at least many times smaller than carbon biology. I don't see how I couldn't state anything about its probability as that's the way science works - experimental data is applied to the real world and one says "this probably works that way with a certain degree of certainty". In fact, if I recall correctly my chemistry teacher told my class once silicon atoms couldn't form chains higher than some number (around 10) because the atom's bigger size got in the way of its own molecular structure. Damn, somebody used the ignorance thing on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 literaly coulden't be a more obvious rock. the reason so few people belive in life on mars is because it lacks two things 1. an atmospher 2. water, due to fact one. side note, who cares? we cant reach each outher, if we could its unlikly we can comunicate beyond a recongintion of each outhers affect on the outher. and if we could comunicate, what use would it be? our existances would be so different there would be nothing of value to trade. If we knew there was life on mars we would make a greater effort to send people there. There are ways we could try and teach them our language. I'm sure there would be a huge number of things we could trade with them. I would assume earth has more resources than mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris the great Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 ok, so our language is sound based, the martian language, or indeed senses cannot be, as the planet has no atmospher due to its size. no atmospher, no air, no possibility of sound. as for trade, our food would be incompatable with their digestion. they have no vegitation so cant break down cellulose. i suppose meat may be plauasable. outher resorces like wood are un workable, no experience of wood makes it useless, cant burn it without air can you? this leaves techknowlogy and philosophy, both of which are tailored to our species, and likely unworkable on mars. metals need to be tempoured and shaped, requiring fire, which cant work on mars. all pretty insignificant when we consider any life would be bacteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 ok, so our language is sound based, the martian language, or indeed senses cannot be, as the planet has no atmospher due to its size. no atmospher, no air, no possibility of sound. as for trade, our food would be incompatable with their digestion. they have no vegitation so cant break down cellulose. i suppose meat may be plauasable. outher resorces like wood are un workable, no experience of wood makes it useless, cant burn it without air can you? this leaves techknowlogy and philosophy, both of which are tailored to our species, and likely unworkable on mars. metals need to be tempoured and shaped, requiring fire, which cant work on mars. all pretty insignificant when we consider any life would be bacteria. All very good points, but the things we've discovered as humans probably don't count for much out in space. Whos to say theres not a race that hasn't discovered our things due to their climate/habitat/brain capacity but has discovered others that we can't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 ok, so our language is sound based, the martian language, or indeed senses cannot be, as the planet has no atmospher due to its size. no atmospher, no air, no possibility of sound. as for trade, our food would be incompatable with their digestion. they have no vegitation so cant break down cellulose. i suppose meat may be plauasable. outher resorces like wood are un workable, no experience of wood makes it useless, cant burn it without air can you? this leaves techknowlogy and philosophy, both of which are tailored to our species, and likely unworkable on mars. metals need to be tempoured and shaped, requiring fire, which cant work on mars. all pretty insignificant when we consider any life would be bacteria. Our language could be adapted for them. I'm sure there would be minerals that could be used by them also. Our technology could also be adapted for them. By the way, I say rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokhed00 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 See, now that idea's totally robbed from Stargate . It could be possible though. I got it from the Outer Limits actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokong Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Why does everyone assume the thing in the pic is a life form? Did it move? Now if it were a statue that was "man" (using the term loosly of course) made, then you could say it is that last remains of a long dead martian civilisation, of course they would be no more now but still proof of former life on mars would be a pretty big discovery too. Another question...why didn't they go take a closer picture of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Because they did and it was just a rock so nobody cared about that picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konfucius Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 It's a Transformer disguised as a rock. is prove I've stolen from NASA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 side note, who cares? we cant reach each outher, if we could its unlikly we can comunicate beyond a recongintion of each outhers affect on the outher. and if we could comunicate, what use would it be? our existances would be so different there would be nothing of value to trade. That is an idiotic view. If we never tried to do things that were thought difficult or impossible, we wouldn't be half as advanced as we are. If we take that attitude then we will never be able to colonize space. Besides their civilisation may be underground do to the fact that there is no air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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