pedrocasilva Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 New images: Source: http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1212583_1407.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tphi Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Zelos shouldn't be there.. I always kill him on my saves If Kratos isn't playable, there's going to be trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 If Kratos isn't playable, there's going to be trouble. Too right! Kratos is such an awesome character, best one in the 1st game IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathborn Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Zelos shouldn't be there.. I always kill him on my saves If Kratos isn't playable, there's going to be trouble. Isn't he too far away with no possibility of going back?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer kirby Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Kratos is that awesome that he can come back whenever he wants. Zelos shouldn't be there.. I always kill him on my saves Oh hell yeah same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Zelos and sheena both must be in the game for maximum humor. It would be cool if Kratos returned but it probably won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 "No, not the face" - Zelos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Wow, the game looks more detailed and a lot cleaner than Tales of Symphonia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Well it should, the Wii is a souped up Xbox afterall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrocasilva Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Well it should, the Wii is a souped up Xbox afterall Then Namco should give me that Tales of Vesperia since apparently it's being done for the real "souped up Xbox". Since we have the fame, let's get the frickin exploits (f*ckin' namco) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokong Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 My fav quote from any n-europe podcast is when you say the line: "Just like in tales of symphonia when......." Although that died out after awhile. But I suppose there is only so much you can tell. I tried holding it back for awhile so it didn't become tired and predictable....plus was finding it difficult to work it into conversation hahaha: peace: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten10 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 I just listened to the podcast, and I admit I laughed a few times as I always do. Shame the part about ova 4 never came to light though, still no subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 The last podcast was pretty good though. Yours are way better than the ones Conner did. I like the new screens but not having a real over-world will take away from the game alot I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten10 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 The only problem I had with Connor in the past podcasts was that sometimes you couldn't hear what he was saying. Probably because his intenet connection / microphone wasn't so great, but the sound quality at the moment is just as good as any podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 There's no over world? Damn I loved that in the first one. Also in the little time i've been in the podcasts my mic is really old. Got it with the first family PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten10 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Yup now its all point and click action all the way. Reminds me a bit of a ds rpg I'm playing at the moment, it doesn't have an overworld and I'd say for that reason it sucks. So hopefully not having one for tales won't hurt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrocasilva Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 There's no over world? Damn I loved that in the first one.No, only point and click navegation for traveling through the locations. Another proof of half-assed-ness too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Damn, that's really a dissapointment. Now i'm getting kinda concerned about this. Delay it if they want I don't care just make this game on par with Tales of Symphonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrocasilva Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Damn, that's really a dissapointment. Now i'm getting kinda concerned about this. Delay it if they want I don't care just make this game on par with Tales of Symphonia.They won't, after all this is a cheap recycled game in order to pay for that Vesperia that we won't get. In all seriousness... Tales of Symphonia engine is only barely aceptable by Wii Standards (I mean, they didn't even put in detailed shadows?) it's obvious they want to take it easy without making many upgrades. The overmap in Symphonia used a diferent PSone'ish engine and they don't want to get criticized for not fixing that (and they'd need to do a new one,if I recall correctly) I'm not worried, always expected this, what I didn't expect is that they were being half assed on this one while investing on another that is not being made for my console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten10 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Something I would really like would be the ability to recognise tos gamecube save files to unlock things in game. For example say the ability to have Lloyd as a playable character only if you have a tos save file, or the ability to unlock items/ moves something like that would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoy Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Not happy about the overworld, but still better than the original, which let the game down a bit in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immy Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Not happy about the overworld, but still better than the original, which let the game down a bit in my opinion. what? word count is gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoy Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 what? word count is gay I thought the overworld in the original was ugly and atmosphere destroying. It completely lost the sense of epicness and put a stain on an otherwise great game. At least with this version the graphics are clean and somewhat presentable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James McGeachie Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Most rpg's gave up on the idea of a full world overworld after the ps1 era as plain and simple you can't have the same kind of geometric detail on a huge world map where you can fly around as you can in towns, etc, so you end up with something that looks laughably ps1 level at best. Even on next gen systems if they went for that type of standard overworld you'd be lucky if they had early PS2 level of detail to keep the framerate decent while rendering a whole planet at once. Despite that though I've always vastly preferred things with an overworld as it really feels like you're exploring the entire world, instead of a set path through what seems like a tiny section of the world (such as FFX and similar styles) The system in this game doesn't seem too awful but it obviously is an act of laziness, probably partly to help disguise the fact that they're reusing tons of the same assets from the original game for a very cheap and unnecessary sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksnowman Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Sure it was pretty ugly in ToS but it served its purpose well, and it did help the game attain and maintain its epic feel, in my opinion. We've known for ages that this sequel has no overworld and only works on a point and click basis, which sucks and will sap alot of grandeur from the games atmosphere. However at the same time, if ToS2 had some overworld that looked like ToS1 we'd all be raging and arguing about how much better the Wii could do. In ToS1 I just took the overworld as being a representation of things. How long would it take you to walk around a whole planet if it was realistically proportioned eh? Quite some time I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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