Aalborg Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 That happened to me once and the driver got out, pulled me out and beat me up for some reason. yes I also think I had to pay to leave the taxi's even though they were stuck for good.. come to think of it I should have blown them to pieces
Jimbob Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 yes I also think I had to pay to leave the taxi's even though they were stuck for good.. come to think of it I should have blown them to pieces I do that from time to time, and sometimes end up with a wanted level or sometimes not if i am lucky. I'm currently on the mission Snow Storm, having trouble completing the last bit, anyone got any tips?
Guest Jordan Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Question: What are the par time for the multiplayer ranked co-op levels? I did them all last night under 10 mins each and didn't get the achievement.
Guest Stefkov Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 I remember one of my mates saying 7 minutes. Don't quote me on that though.
fex Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) 7 Minutes and 4 seconds for the mission where u have to go to a construction site and kill loads of people. Theres vids on youtube showing you the best way. Its all about grabbing a helicopter, and only doing it with two people. ________ Amc v8 engine specifications Edited April 28, 2011 by fex
Marshmellow Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Played this game for the first time today. Seems pretty good so far, not sure if it's living up to the hype though...
CoolFunkMan Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Played this game for the first time today. Seems pretty good so far, not sure if it's living up to the hype though... I agree. I got this game a few days ago, along with my PS3, and I've been playing it a bit. It was boring at first, but it's starting to pick up a bit (I've just completed the Jamaican Heat mission.) Still, I'd give it an 8.5/10 atm.
flameboy Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 When it got to killing either Dwayne or Playboy X who killed the second one? I know most people will be past here, but don't wanna spoil for those who havn't ! I just ask cos I did kill him, as I felt he was too cocky for his own good and felt sorry for other guy....hoping this is a choice that has an effect on the story! EDIT; I only ask cos most people I know killed the first one.
LazyBoy Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 I killed the second. You get: his apartment, plus if you're firends with dwayne you can get him to send a gang of people to help you out.
Shorty Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 I killed the second too. Getting back into this now (after having my xbox sent off for repairs). Finally found a shop selling NRG 900s so I just get a taxi there all the time
flameboy Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 I am well and truly stuck on the Paper Trail mission. I can get to the water go under the bridge and Jacob lines up his first shot... and it always goes agonizing above or below the chopper I'm trying to shoot down, I've lost count of how many times I've tried to do it...how can you line it up perfectly? It seems to deep and rise so much and I find myself constantly trying to correct it. Also one thing noticed a number of cars I picked up the radio hasn't been working odd. Anyway gotta take a break from it but any tips on the paper trail will be very very much appreciated.
Dante Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 'PR’s Dirty Little Game With 11th Hour Reviews' [in a sharply worded opinion piece, British games journalist and producer Simon Parkin discusses how limited access to Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto IV may have affected its initial reception by the press, suggesting that withholding pre-release versions may be affecting reviews of many big game titles.] Judgments cast before they'd been adequately weighed; words sold before they’d been properly valued; shallow opinions that should have been presented as the first word in a conversation but were dropped with the clacking gavel pound of a conclusion. Yeah, every writer has regrets. Four weeks ago in this publication I referred to Grand Theft Auto IV’s depiction of immigrants as being more nuanced and sympathetic than that demonstrated by the exquisite Baltimore-set television drama, The Wire. The exact words were: “[Niko Bellic’s] portrayal should do more to warm viewers to illegal immigrants than any of the (nevertheless awesome) characters in, say, the culturally-acclaimed TV series, The Wire.” While it seems like a harmless enough statement it was an idiotic comparison considering the heavyweight dramatic nature of the television series and the shits-and-giggles, tongue-in-cheek parody of the video game. But what’s really nagged and irritated me over the following weeks is that, with a little distance and perspective, the bold proclamation was so obviously made, like so many from within our industry, with the aim of elevating video games to the respectability of more established media via bald association. The opinion piece was written following a short weekend's playing of the game just prior to its release and, as I’ve played on through the rest of the story, the fault lines in that specific claim have become ever more apparent. While I adore the slow pacing of the first few hours, the way Nico starts off on the straight and narrow and is dragged into the shadows of the American Dream by forces of poverty and necessity, the game soon enough swings into full adolescent-posing-as-adult narrative fizz. There’s nothing particularly unusual or wrong with that, especially when sat alongside Hollywood’s output, but claiming it has anything particularly meaningful to say about the immigration issue is stretching the game beyond its purpose. More interesting than this whiny narcissism are the forces that brought about my (and ten thousand other professional) snap judgments of the game. In the weeks prior to GTA IV’s release, Rockstar made promises that print and online publications would receive early review code so that they might fully ingest and digest Liberty City in order to deliver mature and balanced opinions on its day of launch. In reality, this was not the case, with precious few publications getting to spend prolonged time with the game ahead of release. The first review of the game came from the UK’s Official Xbox magazine bearing the worrying caveat “based on unfinished code”. Eurogamer, wise to the fact promises of AAA title retail code ‘a week before release’ are rarely upheld, arranged to play through the game over a period of days in Rockstar’s offices instead (along with a couple of other UK publications). From speaking to other editors (some of high profile titles) this was not an opportunity offered to all and, when review code failed to turn up the week before release, many were left panicking about how they were going to serve their readers in a timely manner with any integrity. The reason for the withholding of review code was, according to Rockstar, a result to the game’s leaking onto the internet seven days before its release. Speaking to the company at the time it was claimed that this leak came from an unscrupulous journalist. As a result, there was a lock down on all review code: everybody would get their copy just one day before the game’s release, and, despite the wonky logic (after all the game had already leaked to those with the capability to play it so why punish the many for the indiscretion of the few) there were to be “no exceptions, no arguments”. At best then, by the time the game had been played, copy written and subbed ready for the Tuesday morning, most journalists (both in the UK and the US) had played for only a few hours, experiencing just a fraction of the game’s content, a situation testified to by various admissions in professional reviews. Time Magazine dubbed their piece Grand Theft Auto IV: The 6.24% Review while the Associated Press reviewer, Lou Kesten, admitted to having spent only spent eight hours with the game. Slate Magazine’s excellent Chris Baker admitted he only had chance to ‘scratch the surface of the game’ going on to say in a comment on N'Gai Croal’s Level Up blog: "I couldn't even attempt to be definitive…it was kinda liberating”. The BBC noted the phenomenon saying: "Most reviewers were not sent advance copies of the game, and instead had to attend Rockstar offices or sit in booked hotel rooms to play the game,” where Rockstar could keep an eye and some pressure on them. While these few admitted the partial and necessarily subjective nature of their reviews, how many passed off their impressions as being definitive of the whole? Rockstar aren't the first ones to handle big title reviews in this way. Nintendo’s recent ploy, in the UK at least, is to require reviewers to visit the ‘Nintendo Flat’ in London, a place where one can book slots to review titles for a period of time (depending on what slots are left over from the prioritised lifestyle mags and newspapers) from the comfort of one of the company’s armchairs. For the reviewer it’s an inconvenience at best, at worst a pernicious and blatant attempt to colour their opinion in as short an amount of time as possible. Halo 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii: all big name titles (in both size and stature) only supplied to many games reviewers a few days before their release. But what’s the benefit to a PR or publisher in holding back code from non-exclusive reviewers till the eleventh hour, especially if the game is hotly anticipated and good? In part the practice has been fueled by the internet, where there are simply too many websites about video games. The competition to be first to ‘print’ with a review, while always a consideration in magazine publishing, is exacerbated through the global competitive nature of the net. In this environment many gaming website publishers are willing to publish a final review even if it’s only based on very tentative impressions of a small portion of the game. After all, the effectiveness of a ‘buyer’s guide’ review is reduced the closer its publication gets to the game’s release. Any reviews appearing a few days and weeks after a game’s release is almost completely superfluous, thanks to the industry and its consumer’s obsession with the next thing, the next thing, the next thing. By withholding code until a late stage then (be it through design or ineptitude), a PR can force a journalist to rely on marketing hype and information to fill the gaps in their knowledge of the game when writing copy. In this way, control of the critical reaction is shifted back to the PR in a subtle and (arguably) legitimate way. Add into this the journalist’s natural inclination to want to say something, anything, that will distinguish his/ her copy and opinion from everybody else and you start to get bold proclamations being made and unlikely comparisons being drawn. The pressure to say something, anything serious and unique to distinguish your piece from ten thousand others that litter the Internet is heavy. There are too many games journalists tussling over too few opinions with too little time to make them and the PRs have learned to turn that to their advantage. What’s interesting is the recent rise in a different approach to reviews, one that isn’t dependent on their being published on the day of a game’s launch and that doesn’t doesn’t come with a score attached. The staggering popularity of Ben ‘Yathzee’ Croshaw’s Zero Punctuation videos (which, according to Alexa.com have booted host site The Escapist’s profile up several internet leagues), are almost always focused on games that the viewers have already experienced first hand post-release. Of course, its popularity has been driven by excellent knob gags but behind the stickman puerile humor there is something more serious and profound going on. People might come for the cock jokes but they stay for the critical chutzpah that props them up. It mightn’t look like it in the classical sense, but Zero Punctuation is one of the first pieces of games criticism, as opposed to reviewing, to hit the mainstream. A more serious example is Edge magazine’s excellent monthly ‘Time Extend’ feature, which attempts a more orthodox approach to criticism, placing a game in its wider context, drawing out its long terms achievements, identifying its aims and its various success and failures in those goals (disclosure: I'm a long time Edge contributor who has penned numerous Time Extends). Perhaps it’s time for the industry to treat reviews as snapshot buying guides, inconclusive first words in the conversation, and to nurture the more fertile and under-populated ground for more helpful and insightful long-view criticism in the weeks and months following a game’s release. www.gamasutra.com
LegoMan1031 Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 I have also killed the second one u mentioned flameboy and for basically the same reason you did!
flameboy Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 I have also killed the second one u mentioned flameboy and for basically the same reason you did! lol....just thought he was a total nobhead who needed bringing down!
LegoMan1031 Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 lol....just thought he was a total nobhead who needed bringing down! Yep! I most certainly agree! Where bouts r u in GTA4 now anyway?
LazyBoy Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 That article makes sense, it wasn't a 10. Good game, but it wasn't perfect.
flameboy Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Yep! I most certainly agree! Where bouts r u in GTA4 now anyway? My complete rating says 32% and I've now played it just short of 29 hours I am up to the mission with the helicopter for the paper firm if that makes any sense.... Its so annoying I just don't get the time to play a ton of it when thats all I wanna do! How far are you?
LegoMan1031 Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 My complete rating says 32% and I've now played it just short of 29 hours I am up to the mission with the helicopter for the paper firm if that makes any sense.... Its so annoying I just don't get the time to play a ton of it when thats all I wanna do! How far are you? I have been playing it for about 23 hours. My completed ratio is about 39% i think (would need to check). However i did that mission quite awhile ago...
Guest Jordan Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 When you finish the game, you'll have about a 60% completion ratio.
Dog-amoto Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Well, I've been really sad and finished the game 100% Took about 75 hours.
Pit-Jr Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 That article makes sense, it wasn't a 10. Good game, but it wasn't perfect. A 10 doesnt mean perfect though, as no game ever is. A 10 places it at the top of its class until something better comes along.
LazyBoy Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 A 10 doesnt mean perfect though, as no game ever is. A 10 places it at the top of its class until something better comes along. Well it wasn't that. Look it is a fantastic fantastic game. But at no point was it like "wow". You know what I mean. I was constantly impressed but never surprised. There's was little originality, little new. Nothing that hit me emotionally at all. But most of all it's the problem I have with any GTA game, and a lot of games these days. There was no imagination. It was, well kind of normal. A little boring. Well there's my two cents. It goes in the drawer now, and I don't think it'll be coming out soon.
flameboy Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 I have been playing it for about 23 hours. My completed ratio is about 39% i think (would need to check). However i did that mission quite awhile ago... how the hell do you stay level with them towards the end of the water when they seem to bob up and down.
LegoMan1031 Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 how the hell do you stay level with them towards the end of the water when they seem to bob up and down. I don't really remember. I don't remember it bobbing up and down though. Can you get the oppatunity for jacob to shoot earlier than that? I have a fague memory of shooting it down abit after going under a bridge i think.
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