Razz Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 imo Vice City was the only one worth any sort of praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Well the GTA series has a lot of character, or at least had. The scripts of the main Rockstar North games have always been well written, especially the radio hosts which have always had tons of hilarious dialogue (Vice City especially). The cities have a nice attention to detail too, each area of a city feels defined and not like the attempts at recreating real cities in the Spiderman and other sandbox games where everything feels like endless strings of the same buildings. All it's really ever been is the same sort of concept as gangster and mafia films, yet applied to game format and with tongue in cheek humour. It was never just a "crime simulator". So yeah, I would actually say the GTA series > Virtually every other sandbox game out there, though I haven't played enough of Crackdown to really determine that (It seemed totally awesome). That doesn't mean anything to me. The games have always had a lot of production value, but the soul is missing. It's like the Big Mac of games; never has a burger been researched to perfection, never has a burger seemed so awefully nice to eat, and never has it been so ridiculously popular in the public, but in the end it's empty and hollow. It's like Twilight Princess (hold your breath). Out of sheer production value, gameplay-wise it's the best Zelda of all times, but there's a lack of soul and therefore it doesn't beat the previous games. Having said that, TP has plenty of soul to make it awesome. GTA feels like you're playing a shell. Only Vice City had some character, I'll give you that. The rest seemed uninspired to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Allow me to disagree on just about everything. After watching the GTA4 trailer, I got all hyped again ans started playing San Andreas, and I got to remember how awesome and complete it is. I also disagree on Vice City, even though I love the 80s, the building design was too repetitive for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I don't really like GTA. I played the 2D ones to death and I ocasionally play the new ones, but they're so damn boring after 15 minutes and they're so bland. Either way this games has NOTHING to do with GTA, just because it has a small town where you ride in a bike doesnt mean anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 You gotta admit it does feel a bit like GTA, the minimap is a direct copy of the GTA one, and the indoors/gameplay parts are so vibrant and unique that it contrasts with city's blandness (similar to the blandness one might feel in GTA games, because they're so huge they can't design it in a lot of detail). Maybe one of the reasons it doesn't sell well in Japan, is in some association they might do to western games like GTA. Edit: Nigga Gangsta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James McGeachie Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Maybe one of the reasons it doesn't sell well in Japan, is in some association they might do to western games like GTA. The GTA games actually perform surprisingly well in Japan, when they eventually get published there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian DX Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 What's up with this comparing No More Heroes to GTA? I've played both of the games, and there is close to nothing to compare. Its like comparing Nights to Marble Madness ffs. And in case this hasn't been posted here already: No More Heroes - Blood in PAL version petition Sign it, bee-otches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maase Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Already signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Already signed aswell. Good to see that many voted though. Wasn't quite expecting that much so it's a nice surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob07 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I have also signed. Also damn those silly Japanese people not buying this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James McGeachie Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 What's up with this comparing No More Heroes to GTA? I've played both of the games, and there is close to nothing to compare. Its like comparing Nights to Marble Madness ffs. And in case this hasn't been posted here already: No More Heroes - Blood in PAL version petition Sign it, bee-otches I was talking about it because I said there is NOTHING to compare but then the topic out of nowhere turned into bashing the GTA franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian DX Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I was talking about it because I said there is NOTHING to compare but then the topic out of nowhere turned into bashing the GTA franchise. Yea, it was nothing personal. I just saw all the talk about GTA and I thought I'd try to put a stop to it.. After all, this is the No More Heroes topic, not the GTA topic =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Am I the only one who finds the graphical style of this disappointing? Really felt like the original trailer was a powerful piece of graphical art. The current form looks a bit... well, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I agree, i'm not asking or telling anybody else to boycott the game, we need more games like this on Wii, it's just the big brother attitude & unnecessary censorship, people telling me what i can & can't view or play otherwise i will turn into a crazed bloodthirsty serial killer that annoys me & the only way i can put my view across is to not buy an unnecessarily censored product as the power of money outweighs the power of any petition or e-mail ( i have also e-mailed & signed the petition ) in this so called democratic country. Erm, can somebody please pick my toys up, i seem to have thrown them out of my pram!! Are Japan getting the same watered down version of the game as Europe ?? How can it be watered down when it was made by a japanese developer? surely that is the original version? Anyway like I said before I actually like the effect it uses way over blood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Only Americans are getting the bloody version apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 How can it be watered down when it was made by a japanese developer? surely that is the original version? Anyway like I said before I actually like the effect it uses way over blood... Japan got a watered down version of Resident Evil 4. And they're getting the blood-less version of No More Heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khilafah Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 bombed in Japan. 13k first week!! Done better than killer 7 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 It can't exactly bomb if it wasn't originally gonna sell well though Now Mario Galaxy, that bombed. Wonder if Brawl will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian DX Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 bombed in Japan. 13k first week!! Done better than killer 7 though. Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX2 did 15k its first week. I dunno why games aren't selling well in Japan lately, must be because Christmas is right around the corner, and either people don't buy games because they think they might get them as a present, or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khilafah Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 NMH had little marketing and yes it was not expected to do very well. Naruto very strange as the GC games were up there as the strongest third party sellers. maybe Naruto has burned out and people no longer interested. Third party software is struggling on the Wii though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Probably because people got burned with EX. 8ing's lack of effort is just absurd, specially when you compare to Narutimate Hero series. They deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy2211 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Third party software is struggling on the Wii though.. Don't be foolish, third parties are doing great on the Wii. Hell, name one third party game that deserved to sell more then it ever did? (Let's leave Zack and Wiki out until it's racked up some European sales). And er, No More Heroes has sold as well as anyone could have expected. It's a Suda 51 game for crist sake, they never sell great and the fact it sold 10k on it's first day is more then some of his games have sold in their lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShell Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Everyone seen this?: http://gonintendo.com/?p=31367 We have chosen to release in Europe the same version as has shipped in Japan considering the broadly growing Wii market.Hmm... very strange. Surely they realize it'll have an adverse effect on sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy2211 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Everyone seen this?: http://gonintendo.com/?p=31367 Hmm... very strange. Surely they realize it'll have an adverse effect on sales? It's going to help the games sales imo, we discussed this a few pages back. European culture doesn't want blood and violence like the US do, so from a business perspective it makes sence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Plus in my opinion it goes better with the graphical style if they forgoe the blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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