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Ok, perhaps not, nonetheless competetive play (which is what I have being talking about from the very beginning) is the kind of play where you aim to gain ranks and attend meets (in this case, because there is no online play). It's simple. The fact of the matter is, unless you go onto GameFAQs (or a similar place) and purposely look for these techniques, you will more than likely not naturally learn them, and if you did perform one of the techniques by chance there's a good likeliness you would pass it by or not realise how you did it. This massively cuts down on the number of people with the game using those techniques. Not just people without internet access, but laziness and also lack of knowledge of the techniques. The second factor is that if you don't play other people using the techniques (more than likely with everyone I have played with) there is no real incentive for a person to better themself, as they are quite capable of doing well in the games they play already. Let's stop for a second. The term 'playing for fun' and 'actually having fun' are very different. One clearly expresses a laid back, no consequences or real care for the outcome, where you probably don't put much effort into preparation, whereas the other is an individual's enjoyment. It's like saying the world cup final is 'just for fun' - hell no, but I'm sure the players are having fun (if not crapping themselves). I realise that most of the people here are adamant competetive players or technique users, which is why I feel this line of discussion is getting a little biased, heated and ugly. I am only expressing the likeliness of the total number of SSB players, past and present. If you like using techniques, good. Just don't be angry at me when I say it most probably is quite a small percentage of the total players using them (if you consider the number of people who must have owned this game at one point, too).

Wow, it seems like someone has got very emotional about a game. Sorry to twang your nerve. Did I say Roy was better? No, so now you are just making a fool of yourself. If you go back and read what I was saying, perhaps you can amend your post. There's no need to be childish and assume things in an insultive way. The fact of the matter is, ranked people or people who train to competitively play (I do know a couple of people) most certainly do train, not just play battle after battle. Mostly because they don't always have someone to play with, but also because simply playing a game would not allow you to master certain techniques (unlike say, practice mode). As for the comment on turnups for tournaments, they could be the entire of Wales and that still wouldn't be a dent on the number of people who do not play competetively. Sorry to offend something you probably attend at every given occasion, I am just stating simply and truthfully that like just with most games, people do not play competetively. Yeh I may have said the turnup was pisspoor, probably wrong of me in saying that. But I was actually thinking of them as a comparison to the number of copies of the game sold. And yeh, when I said the guy was talking bollocks, he was. Do you honestly think 50% of people who play SSB play competetively, that is take part in competitions and train using these advanced techniques? Techniques that generally have to be mastered, read online etc. I find it bizarre how you can take me up on telling someone they were wrong for something which they blatantly were. I think you are mistaken about the kinds of players we are talking about. Not competetive as in a group of friends competing with each other (surely this is the case in any game of SSB), I am talking about a different league of players who master moves such as wavedash, who know the ins and outs of different moves and as a result probably go to meetups (otherwise there would be no point in learning to play in such a way, given the chance of randomly coming across people the same, I guess).

I didn't mean strengths in that sense, I meant actual strength (that comes across in a noncompetitve match - Roy having a bit more strength but Marth being more agile). Therein lies the conundrum. Given that online play does not exist for SSBM, 0.10 x 0.10 (your 10% estimate of comp. players) = 0.01 (1% chance of 2 competetive players by chance playing together). Sure there's meetups, but really I think the amount of competetive players, like any game, is extremely low. SSBM even lower due to the lack of online.

I think we can go ahead and say from your username you are a bit biased. On that link you provided: It also goes on to say that if both characters were used to the full potential, if you use aerial attacks etc then Marth would be better. Basically that's confirmation of what I'm saying- noncompetitive players probably won't have a formulated and researched style, as a result Roy will be stronger in your average match (obviously not at some competetive level). As for the techniques, honestly, the amount who must have used gamefaqs or some other related site to read techniques and then practiced over them at most must be 0.1%, although is probably a hell of a lot lower, simply because there are far fewer 'game nerds' (sorry to brand this so harshly) than people who just play the games for fun, alongside all the other console's games. I honestly, honestly cannot see 50% of people - what's that, millions of people, brushing up on gamefaqs on how to use wavedash etc, then going to their gc/wii and spending hour upon hour (on a game that was released years and years ago) to 'train' their characters, yet at competitions the turnout is generally pisspoor. Sorry, you talk bollocks.

I know that I'd rather have the greatness of the anime than the manga, in regards to One Piece. I know enough from those volumes to guess that the characters on the page won't start talking (and Luffy really has a great voice actor). Anime ftw (in this case). Besides the manga seemed pretty much the clear cut episodes, not as if there was any point reading them since I had already watched the anime. Remember that you are free to prefer the manga, but don't go telling people their opinions are wrong. ;-)

I disagree, the anime has given a great voice and tv personality to Luffy, which to me makes it better than the manga (I have a few of the volumes).

Bad deal, for about 100 more you could get a 32 inch, or another TV that size for cheaper.

Headhunter?

What could be better than jumping on the back of pigs.

Yeh Berserk rocks, it's fairly old (10 years) but fantastic. It's very supernatural and the anime doesn't show much, so you might want to read the manga like me. One Piece is fantastic, it should be watched by everyone since it has some of the most charismatic and developed characters I've seen in an anime, and it's funny.

I always loved Lucky Charms, but they stopped doing them in UK: Blooming gorgeous they were. My favourite of what's still left would have to be either Coco Pops or Ready Break.

I suppose £40 isn't too bad, unless you think of the 360 having a 5 year life or so, in which case the total cost to keep playing online would be £200. That does make me sit up a little.

In that case, 40 quid for playing online only seems a bit harsh. If the whole package came for that it'd make more sense. But heh, if the rest is free then all the better I suppose.

True. PS3 is a slow starter. I still got one though for oblivion and resistance (love that FPS); well I say I got them for these but really I didn't. I'd have gotten one anyway for all the games it has coming out for it, but a couple of games I wanted to play pushed me to buy it sooner. With the Wii, it's as if these good games coming soon are taking it out of the horrid drought it has been through of good games. Zelda was a great start, but then I've had literally nothing to play since, unlike for my PS3.

Someone in my Chemistry classes during A level was redoing the year to get into Medicine. It's not so bad, if your school is half decent then most people won't tease you or anything. After you finish your A levels (if that's what you're doing) you won't see any of your friends (at least not where you're studying) anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much. As for the girl, just ask her what she likes about you. If she is confused by the question then that's not so good, if she says what she really likes about you then you might have a chance.

Better yet, find the TV on Empire Direct, go to John Lewis and see if they have it then pricematch them if they do. You'll get the TV for the Empire Direct price, with a 5 year guarantee and without having to sign up for any membership.

Honestly I think the percentage of people using techniques such as wavedash and the like would be very, very slim. Most people I know can dodge well and have good reflexes, so it's as if you're playing extremely good, as far as you can go without learning additional techniques. Call it having 'adapted' to the noncompetitive way. I don't think that the people who train competetively have the same motives as those people who just play for fun, so to put it. Professional players must train a hell of a lot, and no doubt a lot of focus becomes on ranking etc. I suppose it's like professional sports players and people who just go play a sport for a bit of fun. Professional sports players will have fun too, but they have a lot more at stake and must put in a lot of difficult training.

Then you may as well exclude that from this little debate, since you'll be paying for the internet for both XBL and PC use. Either way I was sort of right, you can do all the things I listed for free, meaning no additional cost on top of the (obvious) monthly charge for using the internet.

For all those that didn't like the look of 2k3 and earlier, I definitely recommend RPGM XP. It's like going from NES/SNES to GBA. A real step up in graphical quality, mostly by the sprites and tools you are given.

Umm, well obviously. I'm just saying that given one is a virtual service, not exactly a physical product, it doesn't necessary have to incur a cost (given DS and PS3 online don't). And yeh, regarding revolutionary, XBL really isn't. I've been through the features of Live and PSN a lot- PSN actually isn't all that far behind Live (contrary to what people say). Demos, exclusive games, additional game content, downloadable trailers and smooth running online games. Buddy lists too. It just needs to properly incorporate buddy lists globally to catch up a little with Live. If you think about the PC, you can download demos, trailers, additional game content (mods) message friends, speak over mic all anyway, while playing a game, without paying £40 a year to a company to do so. Just my 2 cents anywho. :p

Not sure why, but I like it with the little Mario's running around.

8/10 Nice use of blue, good presentation.

Purely for the online on PC. I loved playing this online about a year ago, when I had the chance to play it. It really is quite fun. If anyone has this game too and wants to play, please speak up.

Hmm, I think the first or second series was the best, slowly getting slightly worse. Still fantastic though.

I don't mean rate it rate it. I mean if you find it great, poor or whatnot . Yeh, Shino, the anime covers a small but vital part and is what pushed me to go ahead and read the manga. Definitely not for the faint-hearted, but a great manga series nonetheless.