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The video you linked.. The video maker commented on the used lens in the video, which was probably the 18-50mm. If you satisfied with this kind of quality, I’d just go with that kitlens. It has Image stabilisation, which will help in low-light conditions, when using a steady hand (and well, it’s useful in daylight as well
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Which leads me to another thing, you mentioned “over-the-shoulder” shots. I assume meaning following someone around at a walking pace. This will lead to a “shaky” video look, like Blair Witch and Cloverfield. Perhaps you want that. If you don’t, and prefer a more steady shot while walking, you’ll have to look at steadycams and rigs, which are expensive. That said, your kitlens has image stabilisation, which should already help with that, though I don’t know to what extent. For now I’d forget the steadycams, and use your kitlens as is. If you decide you need better stabilisation you can look into better options.
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Not much response on that forum, though, there are some tips, and things I can gather from the video you linked.
Another options for audio would be the Rode videomic.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/363083-REG/Rode_VIDEOMIC_VideoMic_Camera_Mounted.html
You can hook this up directly to your camera, so no need for adding in the audio. Personally I’d still go with the Zoom (or similar).
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It would help if you could be a little bit more specific in the tyope of shots you want. Indoor, outdoor, and and what range? I’ve said I think you’re probably looking at close range and indoor mostly for now, since you’re looking into dialogue driven shorts.
First tip is a reviewsite about camcorders specifically (http://www.camcorderinfo.com/), and the general tip that a extra/high capacity battery is probaly also one of the things you should look into.
Here’s a video of the first camera on the frontpage of that site that caught my eye:
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It would help if you could be a little bit more specific in the tyope of shots you want. Indoor, outdoor, and and what range? I’ve said I think you’re probably looking at close range and indoor mostly for now, since you’re looking into dialogue driven shorts.
First tip is a reviewsite about camcorders specifically (http://www.camcorderinfo.com/), and the general tip that a extra/high capacity battery is probaly also one of the things you should look into.
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Ah, dialogue driven shorts? That’s good, you won’t need a rig and stuff to stabilise your frantic shots on the go
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Prime vs Zoom: well, zoom says it all really. A prime doesn’t zoom. It’s optimised for a specific distance range. It requires less glass, and therefore lets more light in, but you sacrifice some versatility. But if you’re going to shoot 2 people talking mostly, I think you won’t need a zoom for now, or at least not a crazy zoom. But I’ll ask around.
Also, did you already have some sort of external mic?
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No, I’m glad to be of help when I’m able to.
Let me know what kind of shots you’re primarily into. Parkour videos? Following close behind or also zoomed out shots?
I’m not very knowledgable on lenses myself unfortunately, due to my lack of hands-on experience. As far as I can gather, 50 mm is a good allround lens, good for close-ups/wide shots or medium range. I personally would have a preference for primes since they have a better performance in low-light conditions, I don’t know if that’s important to you. So I’d personally get the bundle with the 50mm kitlens (€ 618,- on a Dutch site).
But again, if you want, I can ask around! Let me know your budget (£800,- you said), the hardware you already own or can borrow, and what kind of videos you intend to shoot mostly.
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For fuck’s sake, again too long
Must.. Make.. Short..:
First and foremost, a good tripod, with ballhead in case of video. In the high-end market, Manfrettos are all the rage, but you may not want to spend that much. But keep in mind, since a DSLR is lighter than a camcorder, you can make do with the cheaper ones.
There is a specific Chinese brand of camera accessories, but I don’t know from the top of my head which one(s) or where to find them, I’ll ask around. I’d also get a gorillapod for the Zoom, if you’re getting that. If you’re not getting it right away, I’d use the money you’ll save on a good tripod. Also, obviously, the audio-recorder can make itself usefull outside of video production, so it’s an excellent investment.
And this is probably just going to make you drool even more, but this site is excellent for cheap accessories for video: http://www.cheasycam.com
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For that budget, you could look into buying a seperate, dedicated audio recorder, I hear the Zoom H 4 N is excellent, and you could combine it with a Canon EOS 550D with kitlens (although, you’ll need some accessories as well). You’ll have to change your workflow accordingly, i.e. you’ll have to add the sound in editing. But that’s how I’d do it.
I also know the Sony NEX cameras have mic accessories, but I don’t know how good they are, and they use the hotshoe.
Perhaps you should consider joining a tech and/or video site/forum, you can get help from real experts there. I’m on tweakers.net, a Dutch site, but I don’t know a UK equivalent unfortunately.
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Geez, need to keep this within 1000 characters.. -->
Keep in mind I’m by no means an expert, I get my info from the reviews and hands-on experiences.
Advantages:
- excellent image quality in a relatively tiny package (i.e. more portable)
- better suited to take still images as well obviously
- interchangable lenses
- generally much cheaper with kitlens (if you buy better lenses, this advantage evens out)
- better depth of field
Disadvantages:
- (pro-)Camcorders are better featured out of the box for shooting video, with handles, pro-inputs & outputs, etc.
- it seems camcorders generally have better audio quality
Universal advice:
Simply go to Vimeo or Youtube, and search for videos shot with the cameras you have in mind. Let the image quality do the convincing.
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Hi, no, it’s no problem, in fact, just before the forum went down, I had one very long post prepared, but I got the message it was too long.. I think I killed the forum. Anyway, I had the post saved in notepad, but I have to shorten it, and I have to leave now, so you’ll get my comments later!