Dante Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Though images of electronics stores adorned with snaking lines of pimply faced teenagers, desperate parents and eager technophiles searching for an elusive Sony PlayStation 3 blanketed the Internet before the holidays, the high-tech, high-priced video game console may no longer be so hard to find. Blogs, recently filled with stories of gamers on the hunt for PS3s, are now littered with accounts of stockpiles of the machines uncovered at major retailers. Even scalpers have returned machines they picked up before the holidays to sell on Web sites like eBay but failed to unload. One slightly frustrated wife of a wannabe PS3 scalper who didn't want to be identified said her basement was cluttered with several units they hoped to return after the demand for the machines took a post-holiday nose dive on eBay. "I certainly haven't been to every store in the country, but anecdotally it's an issue," said Brian Crecente, editor in chief of gaming blog Kotaku.com. Crecente photographed a large stack of PS3s for sale at a major U.S. electronics retailer just after the holidays. A visit to eBay finds the PlayStation 3 selling for a retail price of $500 for a 20-gig model and $600 for 60-gigs, a stark contrast to the $2,000 plus they went for before Christmas. As of this writing, Best Buy's Web site shows that the high-end model is available on order. But as skeptics question the authenticity of the PS3 supply shortage due to overwhelming demand, others call it conspiracy theory hogwash. 'Console Launch: The Movie' "Rumors and speculation surround every console launch," explained Michael Gartenberg, vice president and research director at Jupiter Research. "Someday Oliver Stone is going to do a movie about the launch of a video game console and all the cabals and clandestine groups keeping them out of stores." Gartenberg said that while the PS3 may be available in a store here or there, if you want one you're still likely to resort to paying more than the retail price in an online auction house. "At this particular point in time there aren't enough PS3s to go around," he said. "The question is what happens when supply catches up to demand. Will consumers still want it?" But is that true? Is there more demand for the PlayStation 3 than there is supply? "Demand was outstripping supply at launch, but with so few units readily available, it would be shocking if that wasn't the case," said John Davison, vice president and editorial director of the 1UP Network, a series of Web sites and multimedia productions on gaming. "I don't think it'll be possible to assess whether it's truly a hit until this time next year." Davison and others agreed that the real test for the PS3 would come next holiday season, after the system is readily available and developers have had a chance to produce some grade A games. While not willing to talk about specific sales figures, Sony believes the PS3 is doing well. "Everything that we put on store shelves sold out," said Sony spokesman David Karraker. Karraker admitted that doesn't necessarily mean that every system Sony sold to retailers like Best Buy made it to the shelves and said that the units that Crecente posted on ******.com were put out after the holidays and beyond the company's field of vision. It's virtually impossible to know what PlayStation 3 units were sold to real gamers, their friends and families, and which ones went to middlemen looking to make a couple of quick bucks off the fervor surrounding it. According to Gartenberg, who cares? "It's a little bit hard to tell if we're seeing opportunists or purists here," he said. "But at the end of the day, the units are being sold to someone, whether there's a middleman or not." Fear of a Bundle While the perpetually paranoid maintain that Sony intentionally created supply shortages to generate buzz, it may be the retailers that have the greatest impact on sales. Aside from stories of stores holding on to shipments from Sony to encourage customers to line up for the PS3 during heavily advertised events, retailers forcing unwanted products on customers to get what they really want is a much reviled if increasingly common practice. Retailers create "bundles" that include the video game system, certain games or other hardware that the consumers may or may not want or need. The problem is that the hotter the item, the pricier the bundles, and often retailers won't allow the core product driving the sale — in this case, the PS3 — to be sold outside a bundle. "Bundles suck," said Davison. "If you're buying a console, you want to buy games with it — and I guarantee that everyone buying a new machine knows exactly what they want before they go to the store. They don't need those stores packaging together all the crap they couldn't sell otherwise into an overpriced mess of unwanted games and lousy accessories." In some scenarios, the bundles include items, such as magazine subscriptions or TV sets, almost unrelated to the core product. Crecente said the buzz out of Sony is that it's not crazy about bundles, but it's relatively powerless to do anything to stop them. "I think in Sony's defense, they're opposed to it," he said. "They've never said it, but I think they understand the negative impact it has on their product." And the Winner Is … It may be too early to predict a winner in the next generation console war, but that doesn't keep some experts from speculating. "The "next gen" war has only just begun, but from the early skirmishes, things are looking pretty good for Microsoft," said Davison. "Nintendo had a good holiday season, but it has a lot to prove." Crecente, who believes Sony's PlayStation 3 is a powerful system that's capable of offering a great experience, agreed with Davison's assessment. "I would say Microsoft [will be the winner]," he said. "Sony is not winning — that's easy to say — there have been so many missteps. Nintendo has a tremendous amount of buzz, but Microsoft has really taken advantage of the year's head start." But Gartenberg, who believes the PS3 is off to a great start, said the market may be big enough that there doesn't need to be a winner — everyone could win. "Consumers are looking at all this stuff and saying that everything looks pretty good," Gartenberg said. "What we may end up seeing this time around is something different. Instead of one vendor dominating the market, we may find three vendors able to split it up in a more balanced way." A utopian video game market? What's next, world peace? We doubt it. ABC News
Goron_3 Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 How about a Red one lads? http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/red/red-and-silver-thirdparty-ps3s-coming-225759.php Looks horrible
mcj metroid Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 does the colour really bother you?the way the console looks never bothered me.i seem to have a weird taste though.I think the ps3 looks good but the 360 looks horrible
Eddage Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I quite like the red, but the white is definately better. Doesn't really matter though, all your doing is polishing a turd! Disclaimer: Before you have a go out me saying "fanboy this, etc" I mean that purely in terms of the look of the console.... it's horrible! I'm not saying the console itself (games, etc) will be shit!
Domstercool Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Maybe so, but it is amazing what colour can do to the look of a console. The PS2 in black looks so cruddy compared to the white one.
Eddage Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Interesting that he isn't too fussed about the whole HD thang! I really hope he does move onto a quality Wii project after he's finished with MGS4!
fanman Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I thought HD made it looks more realistic, rather than clean.
Dante Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 IGN's David Doel recently had a conversation with Harmonix, the development team behind games like Frequency and Guitar Hero. The team proposed a sequel to the fan-favorite Frequency and Amplitude for the PSP, however Sony declined their request. The music game would've been well suited for the PSP, as the excellent gameplay of other music games, like Gitaroo-Man, show. However, to add insult to injury, it appears that the other music game heading to the PSP, Traxion, has also been canned. This music game from LucasArts was supposed to allow players to import their own songs into the game, a "Frequency-killer," as reported by IGN's nixice. He didn't give a reason, but it's sad to see that the music genre seems to be so neglected on our handheld.
Domstercool Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Buy DJ MAX portable then! Oh and there is a sequel to that game coming soon as well.
dabookerman Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 I thought HD made it looks more realistic, rather than clean. Cleaner + More detail.
Ashley Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Look at 360 games, everythings just shinier. Its like the old vaseline on the lens trick.
ZeldaFreak Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Personally I feel alot more people will have the three console. PS3 for epics 360 fo quick bursts Wii new styles of game
dabookerman Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Personally I feel alot more people will have the three console. PS3 for epics 360 fo quick bursts Wii new styles of game Sounds almost just about right Although, i would make it more like this: PS3 for epics + big budget 360 for online + Big budget Wii for Party + quick burst + non games The majority obviously, this doesnt account for all games, before anyone says anything.
fanman Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Not even more realistic just cleaner images Not sure about the whole HD thing yet... can't afford a 360...
fanman Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 when does the uk preordering start????? When the final price and date are set, I would assume. Most retailers wait untill they have their allocations confirmed before they take in pre-orders, but some don't (I hate you, play.com).
Hero-of-Time Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Anyone else think we may see a price drop from the last annoucement when they do finally reveal the date?
Owen Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Anyone else think we may see a price drop from the last annoucement when they do finally reveal the date? Yes, £349.99-£379.99 i reckon! Motorstorm rocks!
fanman Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Yes, £349.99-£379.99 i reckon! Motorstorm rocks! Doubt it... they're already making a big loss, and they'll want to make the most out of those who are desperate enough.
Hero-of-Time Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Im thinking of picking another PSP up for MGS:PO and was wondering do the PSPs still suffer from the dead/stuck pixel problem or has that been sorted now? On my first model I had one out of the box and it annoyed the hell out o me.
dabookerman Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Im thinking of picking another PSP up for MGS:PO and was wondering do the PSPs still suffer from the dead/stuck pixel problem or has that been sorted now? On my first model I had one out of the box and it annoyed the hell out o me. It effects all LCD products i would imagine, but the product is probably less common now. But you are about to make the biggest and ultimatly the second best decision of 2007. Well done.
fanman Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Im thinking of picking another PSP up for MGS:PO and was wondering do the PSPs still suffer from the dead/stuck pixel problem or has that been sorted now? On my first model I had one out of the box and it annoyed the hell out o me. Mine has 4... but I got it pre-owned, so I can't really complain. Not that bothered about it though.
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