madeinbeats Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Who doubted it? Show of hands... Only jokin'... spare the embarrassment Nintendo to announce secret “brand-new types of games” for Wii U soon Nintendo didn’t really have much in the way of surprises at E3, and that’s because, as Satoru Iwata says, they wanted to focus on the “video game fans that are eager for information on so-called traditional games” at the show. But they have more in store for this year than just the stuff they discussed at June’s Nintendo Direct, including “new types of games.” In a meeting with investors recently, Iwata discussed these secret games and explained why they haven’t talked about them yet. “When it comes to brand-new types of games, we have to announce them not too far in advance of the actual release dates in order to have a strong impact in the market and minimize the chance of others introducing similar or competing products. We are working on new types of games, but we would like to announce them much closer to their actual release timings for this reason. “When it comes to Wii, as ‘Wii Sports’ spread throughout the world at a sensational speed, some misunderstood that all Wii could do is enable them to play games by moving the Wii Remote. With Wii U, therefore, we planned to satisfy existing video game fans first and provide new surprises later.” Iwata makes it clear that some of these games he’s talking about will be released within the next year or so. But what could they be? Hmmmmmmm. Meanwhile, in the same talk with investors, Iwata discussed the absence of the vitality sensor. :p http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/05/nintendo-to-announce-secret-brand-new-types-of-games-for-wii-u-soon/
flameboy Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Why the hell did they not show these at E3 considering the current apathy towards Wii U.
flameboy Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Taking this with the biggest pinch of salt ever. Notice how its not being reported anywhere else?!
Josh64 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 They fucking need them, geez. Seriously. I'm not holding my breath though, as Iwata also stated the Wii U would not suffer a 'games drought' like the Wii and 3DS did before it. Pahahahahahahahahhahaha.
EEVILMURRAY Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 You mean the vitality sensor is finally getting its time to SHINE!?
Dcubed Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 If you had actually read the original source instead of this 2nd hand article, you would know that the “brand-new types of games” Iwata is referring to are all games that make use of the console's unique functionality in particular (asymmetric play, motion controls etc) Why the hell did they not show these at E3 considering the current apathy towards Wii U. Again if you had read the original source you would know why... E3 is the video game industry’s biggest trade show, which is held in Los Angeles in the U.S. each June. At the start of the E3 show this year, we announced our Wii U software lineup until 2014 mainly through Nintendo Direct, rather than holding a large-scale presentation as we did in previous years. However, we did not announce all of the games to be released during this period. Most of those who are interested in E3 are video game fans that are eager for information on so-called traditional games and we had a lot of information to be disclosed to such people. Therefore, we first tried to inform consumers of the software lineup to relieve those who might think that they should have waited to buy Wii U until more games were released or those who might be concerned whether the software lineup will be really be enriched in the future. On the other hand, when it comes to brand-new types of games, we have to announce them not too far in advance of the actual release dates in order to have a strong impact in the market and minimize the chance of others introducing similar or competing products. We are working on new types of games, but we would like to announce them much closer to their actual release timings for this reason.
madeinbeats Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 It says why in quote. I think think they will comprise of some of the stuff already seen in the first unavailing trailers like the golf stuff using the pad and maybe stuff like card games using the nfc reader.
Serebii Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I'm all for this. There's already 9 first party titles coming between now and the end of the year. To pad it out further with new titles which are totally independent from ones you can see on 360/PS3/PS4/Xbone, it will benefit the console greatly.
Jamba Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I'm all for this. There's already 9 first party titles coming between now and the end of the year. To pad it out further with new titles which are totally independent from ones you can see on 360/PS3/PS4/Xbone, it will benefit the console greatly. For me, this is the most appealing thing that Nintendo need to do. If you combine the following, then I think the wider audience will really get excited about the Wii U: - a game that only Nintendo could make - a game that could only be done on the Wii U - a game that brings new stuff to the table and is not just an evolution of a concept (could even be an established franchise, like Metroid Prime was) I'm not saying all of Nintendos games have to be like that but SOME of them have to be.
madeinbeats Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 Q&A made all the right noises. They just need to back it up now. They have been veryyyyyyy slow outta' the gate. I just hope there isn't another major revolution in development any time soon. After reading the Q&A though, I get the strong feeling they organise their company to operate much the same as their hardware design philosophy; very tight and efficient with low bottlenecks but final silicon and dev tools are slow to market. I like it
Jonnas Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Why the hell did they not show these at E3 considering the current apathy towards Wii U. Sometimes, people's lack of reading comprehension astounds me. "Brand-new types of game" is a key concept, here. You know what qualified as this in Nintendo's past? Brain Training, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, Nintendo Land, among others. You really want to know why they don't want to announce these types of games at E3?
Retro_Link Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Sometimes, people's lack of reading comprehension astounds me. "Brand-new types of game" is a key concept, here. You know what qualified as this in Nintendo's past? Brain Training, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, Nintendo Land, among others. You really want to know why they don't want to announce these types of games at E3? That was his point yes. Sometimes your lack of reading comprehension astounds me.
Jonnas Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I might have been a tad too aggressive in my point, indeed. I apologize for that. Still, I think it's pretty obvious why Nintendo didn't do it: every single time they do, they get waves of complaints that these aren't "core" games.
Retro_Link Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I might have been a tad too aggressive in my point, indeed. I apologize for that. Still, I think it's pretty obvious why Nintendo didn't do it: every single time they do, they get waves of complaints that these aren't "core" games. That's ok, it did just come across as a bit confrontational. Something we've got to start stamping out on this forum. --- Nintendo are in a bit of a difficult situation. Personally I'd love to see what creative concepts they have in the works, I love Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Brain Training... so I'm excited for the next. However, whilst it would be unfair for people to say 'these aren't the core games we want'... I'm not sure Nintendo are delivering the correct core games to balance things out. Thier selection of franchises for 2013/2014 is still quite casual... which as we've established is because they're relying on them to bring the Wii U sales in. But therefore complaints wouldn't surprise me.
Serebii Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 You can't blame them on the idea about not wanting people to take the general idea though. Look at the Wii U. Revealed in 2011. One year later, Microsoft revealed Smartglass which did similar features. This year at E3, many major games showed tablet functionality.
Londragon Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I might have been a tad too aggressive in my point, indeed. I apologize for that. Still, I think it's pretty obvious why Nintendo didn't do it: every single time they do, they get waves of complaints that these aren't "core" games. Then Microsoft and Sony laugh at the new idea, call it shit, a fad, whatever. Then 1-2 years later copy it and say it's the next big thing.
Serebii Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Then Microsoft and Sony laugh at the new idea, call it shit, a fad, whatever. Then 1-2 years later copy it and say it's the next big thing. Then, when talking about the concept, one of the big wigs (or ex big wigs) in the company/industry then goes and says that the Wii U was a reaction to it
Jonnas Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 That's ok, it did just come across as a bit confrontational. Something we've got to start stamping out on this forum. Indeed. Nintendo are in a bit of a difficult situation. Personally I'd love to see what creative concepts they have in the works, I love Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Brain Training... so I'm excited for the next. However, whilst it would be unfair for people to say 'these aren't the core games we want'... I'm not sure Nintendo are delivering the correct core games to balance things out. Thier selection of franchises for 2013/2014 is still quite casual... which as we've established is because they're relying on them to bring the Wii U sales in. But therefore complaints wouldn't surprise me. The Wii U selection they showed so far is safe. They have Pikmin 3, Mario Kart, Mario 3D World, Wind Waker HD, Donkey Kong, Wii Fit U, Smash Bros and X All of those have one thing in common: they're part of a series that was acclaimed either critically or commercially (X is associated with Xenoblade, remember). Their recent record shows that people calling themselves "core" gamers don't really take to new series easily, no matter how much they claim otherwise. The success of the Wii series didn't come from long standing fans, every big release (as far as the community is concerned) on the Wii or the portables comes from a known series, and the only games that could prove this wrong are Xenoblade (which they almost didn't release in the west), Kid Icarus (something that had Smash Bros publicity, at least) and Fire Emblem's sudden unexpected success (let's face it, how well known was the series before Awakening came out?). Whether the "safe" releases are what the fans want or not... In Nintendo's mind, those are really the only ones with a shot at pleasing them in the first place. And by fans, I mean folks who bother to watch stuff like Nintendo Direct.
Jamba Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Whether the "safe" releases are what the fans want or not... In Nintendo's mind, those are really the only ones with a shot at pleasing them in the first place. And by fans, I mean folks who bother to watch stuff like Nintendo Direct. I think they misjudged it even worse than that. There are a number of groups of people who are affected: Are happy: People with a reasonable amount of cash and have just been waiting for the big franchises to pop up as holding out for a price drop is probably worth it. They don't explore Nintendo's weirder franchises, they just want Mario Kart and Smash. People that will buy every console so they have everything. Nintendo fans that will be happy whatever they get. The Nintendo board People that were skeptical about Nintendo's offerings. Didn't think they could deliver on their promises and are currently waiting for PS4/XBone. Are unhappy: 3rd party publishers - Nintendo is not doing anything to attract their type of customer to their platform and the general hardware sales are crap. Customers that are waiting for Nintendo to justify the large extra cost of the major feature of their new console. Nintendo fans waiting to see Nintendo do what they do best: innovate. Don't care: Almost everyone - Nothing is headline worthy, so it's same old same old. Nintendo has almost no coverage on any general medium because there is 0 buzz. Sony and Microsoft - Nintendo had a chance to get a headstart on them and show them what it was all about. Their services are going to be better, content is going to come out quicker and Nintendo has no KSP on them at all. Games Media - How can they get excited about more of the same? Even if they give it 8.5/10 they will end up saying "it's what you've played before except this time the camera angles changes. Wooo! /sarcasm" General public - Why should they buy a console with so few games that costs so much when they are still having fun on a Wii or with their smartphones.
Serebii Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Don't care: Almost everyone - Nothing is headline worthy, so it's same old same old. Nintendo has almost no coverage on any general medium because there is 0 buzz. Sony and Microsoft - Nintendo had a chance to get a headstart on them and show them what it was all about. Their services are going to be better, content is going to come out quicker and Nintendo has no KSP on them at all. Games Media - How can they get excited about more of the same? Even if they give it 8.5/10 they will end up saying "it's what you've played before except this time the camera angles changes. Wooo! /sarcasm" General public - Why should they buy a console with so few games that costs so much when they are still having fun on a Wii or with their smartphones. This list made me laugh, especially the last two. Even the 360/PS3/PS4/Xbone are filled with crap that's "more of the same". You CANNOT limit this just to Nintendo. The General public statement also makes me laugh. If you take first year into account, I can almost guarantee you that in the first 12 months, Xbox One and PS4 will have around the same number of games as the Wii U did in its first 12 months. This ALWAYS happens with new consoles, it's just more noticeable with the Wii U because there's no third party stuff and the media really has it in against Nintendo for some reason so they make it so well known. Even when Nintendo was doing brilliantly, the media and certain analysts were predicting doom for them. Edited July 6, 2013 by Serebii
Josh64 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Yeah, people are always spreading doom and gloom around Nintendo, the only difference is that this year it's justified. And yeah, the lack of games is more noticeable on Wii U because of low third-party support and that's a HUGE problem. I'm certain the XBONE and PS4 will have way more titles in the first year, perhaps not from Sony and Microsoft themselves, but certainly from other developers.
Jamba Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 This list made me laugh, especially the last two. Even the 360/PS3/PS4/Xbone are filled with crap that's "more of the same". You CANNOT limit this just to Nintendo.The General public statement also makes me laugh. If you take first year into account, I can almost guarantee you that in the first 12 months, Xbox One and PS4 will have around the same number of games as the Wii U did in its first 12 months. This ALWAYS happens with new consoles, it's just more noticeable with the Wii U because there's no third party stuff and the media really has it in against Nintendo for some reason so they make it so well known. Even when Nintendo was doing brilliantly, the media and certain analysts were predicting doom for them. Hey it may be my opinion and I definitely laugh at yours a lot of the time but I do tend to do it privately rather than publicly cos it would make me look like a bit of a dick. And yes my point about the feeling of the public SHOULD make you laugh because no-one even knows there's a new Nintendo console. Also, you are probably right about the other two consoles but it doesn't really matter because they are not in the position of struggling to make their platform appealing after the mass public forgot about them. The PS4 and XBone have the "next big thing" factor going for them vs. a platform that needs to have a KSP that it doesn't have. Don't get me wrong, the Wii U will sell nice and gradually but unless they step things up in terms of the experiences they offer then nostalgia and familiar franchises will be the only reason people will buy. And the platform is way too expensive for that value judgement to regularly swing in Nintendo's favour.
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