Rummy Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 What? What's going on? I'm totally lost now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Diageo is right, why would you point that out? It's the main reason I'm trusting you right now. Of course we can't know for sure that the mafia haven't been told, but I doubt they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksnowman Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 My meagre findings out are that Cube falsifies evidence and that "this seems important." I thought the fact his dishonesty is "important" would mean he is evil. The use of the word corrupt is my own doing, so apologies for opening that can of worms. :p I was just drawing what I think is the obvious conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Falsifying evidence doesn't sit well in my books... Surely if you were good and influential, your double vote would be through legitimate means rather than forgery to lynch who you believe to be guilty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Falsifying evidence doesn't sit well in my books... Surely if you were good and influential, your double vote would be through legitimate means rather than forgery to lynch who you believe to be guilty? That's exactly my thinking and why I'm not removing my vote. If you stood for justice you would have no need to forge or perhaps bribe your way to the 'truth'. It's not uncommon for the Mafia to receive an example of a townie PM either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Holy bejeesus an active mafia! Falsifying info seems bad, but I find myself confused by the non-plain-talking happening, Dannyboy claims that Diageo just pointed something out and I must be being silly because I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Interesting! So people don't die, they just get framed...I dig it. Anyone got any good info they're willing to part with? He wasn't framed, he was forced to leave by (a forged) order of the Supreme Court. Also, how about you give us some information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Falsifying evidence doesn't sit well in my books... Surely if you were good and influential, your double vote would be through legitimate means rather than forgery to lynch who you believe to be guilty? These are basically my thoughts as well. Then again, his character is known for "ruthless tactics" ... but I keep coming back to the fact that the mafia's entire shtick in this game is manipulating evidence. It just seems to fit too well. Plus, the mafia could technically have received a townie PM template ... however, I find that unlikely, so that really leaves me in doubt. Basically I'm not sure what we should do. If there are any other leads we can pursue today, I think we should do so, and if the general consensus is to lynch Cube by the end of the day, I'll have no qualms about joining in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Dannyboy, when in the mafia, had you not once even had the GM offer to make you town like PMs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Only once, and I've never heard of it in other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 The Peeps did it in the End of the World mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rummy Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Ok I'm bored and I'm totally with ReZ on the danny/diageo non-plain-speaking but as I said I don't want to waste time so I'm gonna Vote:Cube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'd keep a close eye on those voting and not even asking questions. Especially those who suggested I should say more but didn't ask anything. You're all just focusing on a small part of my power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 And reports of you forging evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 And reports of you forging evidence. Which is still only related to my day power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Rummy and Nintendohnut are suspects for me. Dannyboy is trustworthy as he clearly understands - as does diageo. Diageo -- consider not how the others 'may' know the same thing, instead look specifically at how certain members have clearly not recognised it, and try to see how that's dodgy. I think it's far more dodgy that they fail in this respect than it is dodgy that cube presents it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 So you're saying either Cube is town and Rummy, Nintendohnut (and ReZourceman since he also didn't understand) are all mafia because they fail to see what we see, or what Cube said means nothing and he's mafia, and Rummy, Nintendohnut and ReZourceman are just not paying hard enough attention. Now I know that they are good players and would normally notice something like this, but the same holds true if they were mafia as they would pretend to know what we were talking about. Either way. I would rather go with the evidence (of which Cube has confessed) than with this metagame analysis of what is probably mafia knowledge and behaviour related to such knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zell Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Cube, you targeted Tales last night but you haven't said what you do. You said the forging evidence thing only relates to your day power, i.e. it explains why you have a double vote. This seems like kind of convoluted logic to me. But am I right with what you've said so far? Currently sitting on the fence about this one. We're basically relying on the word "corrupt" to mean evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Currently sitting on the fence about this one. We're basically relying on the word "corrupt" to mean evil. Not actually. The word "corrupt" was darksnowman's doing. What he did find out is what Cube has confessed to, namely that he forges evidence, which darksnowman's investigation claimed was "important". Cube, what is your night power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Not to mention the fact that forging evidence is stereotypically mafia in this game and is what got Heroicjanitor kicked out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 If you ignore corrupt you still have the fact that Cube has a double vote by means of forging evidence - the very thing we're working against. It does seem odd that this information would be so freely available but it does happen a lot in mafia games where investigators will catch a mafia on the very first night. It's just good/bad luck. We don't know your night power Cube, please enlighten us. You're saying we're only focussing on one part of your power but your night power clearly isn't that redeeming or you would've claimed it in defence by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rummy Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Rummy and Nintendohnut are suspects for me. Dannyboy is trustworthy as he clearly understands - as does diageo. Diageo -- consider not how the others 'may' know the same thing, instead look specifically at how certain members have clearly not recognised it, and try to see how that's dodgy. I think it's far more dodgy that they fail in this respect than it is dodgy that cube presents it. On what grounds? Because I'm busy and reluctant to idle on voting? I'm tired of playing it safe all the time, idling away as the mafia kills us all off. On top of this, I have NO idea what these riddles people are talking in are about! Is it something obvious I can glean from the writeup and what's been said? I still don't like Tales, but he's just not a viable lynch hence I went with Cube. On top of that, he DOES forge evidence and heroic said the evidence was forged on his way out, did he not? Whats the deal with Peeps being attacked last night as well, is there anything you can't do today/roleblocked last night? Btw @Jonnas will you be doing writeup links in the first post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 So you're saying either Cube is town and Rummy, Nintendohnut (and ReZourceman since he also didn't understand) are all mafia because they fail to see what we see, or what Cube said means nothing and he's mafia, and Rummy, Nintendohnut and ReZourceman are just not paying hard enough attention. Now I know that they are good players and would normally notice something like this, but the same holds true if they were mafia as they would pretend to know what we were talking about. Either way. I would rather go with the evidence (of which Cube has confessed) than with this metagame analysis of what is probably mafia knowledge and behaviour related to such knowledge. On what grounds? Because I'm busy and reluctant to idle on voting? I'm tired of playing it safe all the time, idling away as the mafia kills us all off.On top of this, I have NO idea what these riddles people are talking in are about! Is it something obvious I can glean from the writeup and what's been said? I still don't like Tales, but he's just not a viable lynch hence I went with Cube. On top of that, he DOES forge evidence and heroic said the evidence was forged on his way out, did he not? Whats the deal with Peeps being attacked last night as well, is there anything you can't do today/roleblocked last night? Btw @Jonnas will you be doing writeup links in the first post? To clarify; I am vocalising my suspects, not saying that everyone I've mentioned is mafia, just that they've ignored something which I think is proof of innocence. It's nothing to do with not wanting to be idle, rummy, it's to do with Cube's post where he explains himself. There are plenty of other explanations - perhaps cube is mafia, but he'd have to have contact with someone completely innocent in order to provide the proof he did, and if that's the case then someone here will know of that link and they should be suspicious of Cube. I know I'm not explaining it perfectly, but frankly the whole point of this is that the innocent will know what I'm talking about if they read cube's post, and the mafia will not :P if I clarify any further then it defeats the whole point. It may indeed be that people are not paying hard enough attention - but I can't spell it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksnowman Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 On top of this, I have NO idea what these riddles people are talking in are about! I haven't a baldy either. I still don't like Tales, but he's just not a viable lynch hence I went with Cube. On top of that, he DOES forge evidence and heroic said the evidence was forged on his way out, did he not? Yeah, I'd be suspicious of everyone who backed Tales up at the start of this day until they are proven innocent, tbh. I didn't notice that potential link with heroicjanitor being "killed" through forged evidence, good spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Cube, what is your night power? I can get a copy of people's PMs. Yeah, I'd be suspicious of everyone who backed Tales up at the start of this day until they are proven innocent, tbh. I didn't notice that potential link with heroicjanitor being "killed" through forged evidence, good spot. And that clearly can't have been me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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