Call of Duty: Black Ops

[Kav]

Hope goldeneye wii is also patchable, since the freezing problems with the lan adapter is also in goldeneye wii, and its annoying to power of my wii multiple times. And yes im using the official lan adapter, maybe someone could ask activision.

 

From what I've been led to believe, Goldeneye doesn't support patches. If you need an FPS fix I'd say bite the bullet and get Black Ops, it's multiplayer is far superior to any other Wii FPS out there.

[Zechs Merquise]

Hope goldeneye wii is also patchable, since the freezing problems with the lan adapter is also in goldeneye wii, and its annoying to power of my wii multiple times. And yes im using the official lan adapter, maybe someone could ask activision.

 

Goldeneye is not patchable. The only game that is patchable on the Wii is Black Ops. I've had Goldeneye freeze a couple of times with the LAN Adaptor but it's not that often, maybe twice in 6 hours or so.

 

I downloaded the COD:BO patch this morning, it's very good and I can now use my LAN Adaptor! Wooo!

[marcel]

i know that this is the black ops thread but this is to funny to pass up. I send and inquiry to activision about the goldeneye lan adapter problem, this is what i got as an answer:D:laughing:

Hello and thank you for contacting Activision Technical Support, What kind of internet connection are you using for your internet service? Are you using a home, school or office connection? Let us know if you are connecting wirelessly or through a wired connection for your internet service. Please clarify if you are currently sharing your connection with other users or if you are the only user on your connection. Try placing an additional fan on your Wii while its attempting to connect to an online match and let us know if this has any bearing on your freezing.

the most stupid answer i got from an helpdesk in years(lol place a fan on the wii wth are you kidding me?)

[Retro_Link]

the most stupid answer i got from an helpdesk in years(lol place a fan on the wii wth are you kidding me?)

At least they didn't suggest placing a candle on your Wii to stop it freezing! :p

[marcel]

At least they didn't suggest placing a candle on your Wii to stop it freezing! :p

 

:wink: true, but still a stupid answer:woops:

[Kav]

Guys, those that don't have this game already really need to get it! It's awesome!

Us N-Europe lot are tearing people apart online... you need join the fun!!!

[Zechs Merquise]

:wink: true, but still a stupid answer:woops:

 

It was a stupid answer, however the game freezing has something to do with the LAN Adaptor and it's use with certain online games. There was a problem with this in Black Ops, but that has now been patched.

 

Anyway, you should get Black Ops and join us online, we pretty much own everyone and we're up to round 17 on Zombies now and that was with just three of us!

[Zechs Merquise]

Good news first, all the online niggles seem to have been ironed out, the [N-E] clan is doing very well and we are playing every night now, so if you fancy getting in on the action get yourself a copy and jump in with us!

 

Review Round up:

 

Game Informer - 65.00%

IGN - 75.00%

Gaming Target - 80.00%

Gametrailers - 86.00%

N-Europe - 90.00%

Nintendo Life - 90.00%

GameSpot - 90.00%

Official Nintendo Magazine UK - 90.00%

Game Vortex - 92.00%

 

http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/996443-call-of-duty-black-ops/index.html

[Ashley]

Another patch is being released soon: http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=14667

 

New issue - "an error occurred while connecting to the server" – to be fixed in an update ASAP

WMD map hole – Fix incoming 11/30

Zombie gas clouds sticking around – Fix incoming ASAP

Disappearing zombies glitch – Fix incoming ASAP

Variable zoom scope will not stay zoomed in – Fix incoming ASAP

Sierra button layout for Classic Controllers (CC/CCP) assigns same button for Tactical Grenade as steady button for scoped weapons – Fix incoming ASAP

[Zechs Merquise]

New review from VGChartz network:

 

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/review/44953/call-of-duty-black-ops/

 

They gave it a solid 8.7 stating:

 

Well, it took four years and four titles, but the good folks over at Activison/Blizzard and Treyarch have finally delivered a full Call Of Duty title to Nintendo’s console. Everything, from the intriguing singleplayer to the amazingly in-depth multiplayer and even flesh-starved zombies, makes an appearance on the Wii. Call Of Duty: Black Ops is the complete package that is just as good as the both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 versions. This is the game that fans of Wii shooters have been hoping for ever since the console launched. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go play a few deathmatches.

[Kav]

If there's one thing that disappoints me that kind of relates to this game, it's the lack of N-E forumites (yeah, I decided to go with forumites, I like it) that have it.

There's barely 10 of us!

 

I was hoping that there'd be a fair few of us and that we could both dominate the online world as the N-E Clan (which we do tend to do anyhow) and also have good laughs in private matches amongst each other.

 

The game is outstanding, easily the best FPS on Wii and it easily has the best online system on the Wii... it'd be great to have a big N-E community on this.

 

 

Still, I do love the N-E Clan members we already have! N-E FTW!!!

Edited December 7, 2010 by Kav

[Zechs Merquise]

Call of Duty Multiplayer Comparison

Before we begin the comparison it must be noted that I am primarily a Wii gamer and this comparison focuses mainly on the Wii versions of the games, although it does briefly examine other systems I played the games on and my thoughts on the differences. Due to this I have laid out this comparison starting with WAW which was the first online COD game released on the Wii. As Modern Warfare 2 didn’t come out on the Wii I have taken my impressions from both the XBOX360 version and the PC version.

 

Call of Duty: World at War

 

WAW was the first Call of Duty game I ever purchased. Not being a huge fan of WW2 FPS games I decided to purchase it due to the online mode and the lack of modern military shooters on the Wii at the time. To my surprise I’d never played a shooter quite like it. I remember entering boot camp and going into my first game on Castle and literally being blown away. Getting XP for kills, leveling up and unlocking new weapons, perks and equipment felt incredible. The sheer level of customization available had me investigating different combinations of the gear available.

 

Whereas previous online FPS games all seemed about racking up kills and staying ahead of the pack to ensure the win, this had far more depth. Whilst finishing first or seeing your team win was obviously a major reason to keep playing, leveling up became just as big of a driving force. Unlike other games with an experience and leveling system WAW never felt like a grind and reaching a new level was always well timed and felt very satisfying.

 

Customizing your character’s attributes was a major part of the game. The equipment, perks and weapons allowed you to play the game the way you wanted to play it. You could equip yourself to be a stealthy silent killer, who moved amongst the enemy unnoticed, or you could be a heavily armed juggernaut with a heavy machine gun blasting everyone that moved. The diversity of the different play styles bowled me over.

 

Eventually I settled on stopping power and steady aim as my core perks and generally stuck to sub machine guns – namely the MP40 with extended magazines. Whilst the Wii version only supported eight players, the maps available on the Wii were (with the exception of Cliffside) small and medium sized maps and everything worked well. I put in over 200 hours on WAW and really enjoyed it, it changed my perception of FPS gaming. No longer was an online FPS just about racking up kills, it was about XP, growing your character and customizing your setup.

 

What I also loved were the challenges. You earned XP for each kill and got bonuses for your performance in a game, but it didn’t end there. The game was full of challenges which on completion granted you bonus XP, these challenges were often linked to the number of kills you achieved with each weapon but some were for more exciting, like killing multiple enemies with one grenade.

 

The one thing that really made the matches more interesting was the inclusion of kill streaks. When you killed a number of enemies in a row without dying you were granted a series of bonuses. These were a spy plane, an artillery barrage and finally a pack of vicious dogs to tear down the opposing players. The addition of the kill streaks made staying alive even more important. In previous FPS games getting killed knocked down your kill to death ratio and granted your enemies extra points, but other than that you lost nothing for dying. Keeping your streak going and staying alive was now more important and granted you tangible in game rewards leading to a greater level of tension when you were just one kill away from that all important reward.

 

ALSO PLAYED ON: XBOX360

 

I also played WAW on the 360, bar the graphical differences I noticed that although there was a higher player count (12 as opposed to 8) the games moved more slowly. The Wii remote set up really played to the strengths of fast moving ‘run and gun’ players. I also enjoyed trying out the extra maps the 360 version had, although I found some of the larger ones far too big and spent a lot of time wandering around looking for people to kill. The other thing that was present in the 360 version was vehicles in multiplayer, I really didn’t like them or felt they fit the game that well. Whilst I did lament some of the missing maps on the Wii, I was quite happy to pass on the vehicles.

 

 

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Reflex

 

When Call of Duty: Modern Warfare was first released the Wii missed out, hence the reason WAW comes first in this comparison. After WAW gamers began looking forward to seeing MW2 and hype for the title began to build, however there was no word on a Wii version. When MW2 was officially unveiled so was a version of the original Modern Warfare for the Wii. I was quite excited to play this after having spent such a large amount of the time on WAW and also having tried MW on the 360.

 

Modern Warfare Reflex was great. Treyarch had clearly worked hard to build on what they done with WAW. The game included all the content from the other versions – so no missing maps or game modes this time! They also managed to up the player count to ten, which was a pleasing addition. I actually preferred MWR to WAW and spent over 250 hours on the multiplayer alone. With so many maps and modes to experiment with the game was immense value for money.

 

The perks were more or less the same as in WAW and again stopping power and steady aim were a must. I again settled on sub machine guns for my main classes with the P90 and MP5 being my weapons of choice, this time the silencer was my chosen attachment. With this being set in the modern age the range of weapons seemed far more exciting than those found in WAW, with automatic assault rifles replacing the single action rifles found in WW2. What’s more you could customize your weapon with camouflage which was a nice touch.

 

Whilst I preferred MWR to WAW, the games can be seen as quite interchangeable. The perks, killstreaks and leveling system are virtually the same. Which you enjoy the most will probably be determined by whether you prefer historic or modern combat as the back drop for a game. However it must be said that MWR stands above WAW on the Wii due to fact it is a more complete and comprehensive package. The extra modes and the greater diversity of the maps on the Wii version really made it stand out above its predecessor. What’s more the selection of maps feature some of the best I’ve ever played in an online shooter and the large maps on MW were not quite as big as the large maps on WAW so the fighting was more condensed which lead to better more action packed games.

 

ALSO PLAYED ON: XBOX360 and PC

 

The differences are much smaller between the versions this time as the Wii version has all the maps and modes available just with a slightly smaller player count. Again the movement in HD versions is slightly slower and more cautious compared to the run and gun style of play that is fostered by the Wii remote. Also, you will find a lot more people using LMGs on the Wii than on the 360!

 

 

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (played on XBOX360 and PC)

 

Sadly this game never made it to the Wii and probably never will. After MW and WAW it was a bit of a shake up for the franchise. Whereas WAW and MW were very similar MW2 changed a lot of what we knew and loved. The game introduced new perks, cut old ones, brought in death streaks and massively overhauled the system of kill streaks. The level of customization was taken to the next level and so were the challenges. The new equipment, gear and weaponry that were introduced really brought new dimensions to the game.

 

Whilst MW2 retained the level of polish that was found in the previous titles I simply didn’t enjoy it as much as the previous games. The idea of customizing your kill streaks was great, no longer were you fixed at 3, 5 and 7 – you could change your load out to suit you. However this brought its own set of problems to the table.

 

The problem with the system was that like in other games, kills from kill streak rewards helped build toward other kill streaks. What’s more the dogs in WAW and the chopper in MW were quite easy to defend against; but some of the higher streak rewards in MW2 were not. This could lead to some very frustrating and unbalanced games where one good player could literally dominate a map off his kill streak rewards whilst barely having to leave his ‘campsite’.

 

What’s more Infinity Ward had cut certain perks which helped lesser players and had previously evened the field. Both martyrdom and juggernaut were cut and added in as death streaks which were available once you had died three times in a row. Whilst I had my fair share of frustration dealing with both aforementioned perks in WAW and MW I understood why they were there. Once they were cut it left lesser players almost completely at the mercy of more experienced ones.

 

Whilst I’m certainly not suggesting that lesser players should be given cheap ways to get kills, I do think people play games for fun, and as match making often pairs completely green players with seasoned veterans there does need to be some balancing features. Another major issue with MW2 was the fact stopping power was still included despite juggernaut being cut. Whereas previous games offered the balance of one player having more powerful bullets and another having more health, MW2 did not.

 

Another gripe I had with MW2 was the maps. Whereas the maps in WAW and especially MW were superb, I felt a lot of the maps in MW2 were slightly unbalanced and lacked the finesse of the maps in earlier games. Infinity Ward had clearly tried to take the complexity of the maps to a new level, but this seemed to simply increase the number of the campers and reduce the open flowing combat found in earlier entries in the series.

 

Whilst this seems like a very negative take on MW2, I must say I still enjoyed it playing it a lot of the time. When MW2 worked, it worked as well as any other COD game, it was just when it didn’t work and frustrations built up it was far more frustrating, broken and unbalanced than previous entries. The sad thing with MW2 is that compared to earlier entries in the series, chances of encountering one of those terrible games was much, much higher.

 

 

Call of Duty: Black Ops

 

One thing is clear right away from playing Black Ops, Treyarch have really tried to refine the COD series. The game clearly isn’t the revolution the original MW was, it’s a refinement, something that builds on the series strengths whilst trying to smooth off any rough edges. The great thing about Black Ops is the skill is back in the player’s hands and the game is more about who you kill than who your kill streak rewards kill.

 

The first major overhaul is that for the first time kills from kill streak rewards do not count towards your streak. You can’t simply bring out a sentry gun and wait for it to unleash your attack chopper for you. If you want to get higher level kill streaks you must go out and earn them yourself. This changes the game a lot and forces players to get out there and be more aggressive if they want to reap the higher rewards. As a Wii player who had to put up with players getting the chopper in MWR only to kill themselves, release it and wait for that chopper to earn another one, this is a great improvement.

 

Stopping power has also been dropped. This is only one perk but alters everything quite radically. No one goes into any game with ‘better’ bullets or increased health – instead the playing field is totally leveled in that regard. Because of the lack of stopping power and juggernaut the perks are far more interchangeable and the best choices are far less obvious. I actually spent a long time experimenting with different perks before finally settling on three that at first I had disregarded. They have also cut the death streaks, but I found them quite pointless anyway and very little help as by the time you got them you were already in a sizeable mess and taking a thrashing!

 

Another huge change is that you don’t unlock things just by leveling up, now you buy weapons and equipment with COD points (CP). This again allows players to customize weapons how they want to, rather than having to complete challenges to unlock the attachment you want, you can choose to buy the one you want right away, with better equipment costing more CP.

 

As I have only played the Wii version, I can only comment on the Wii kill streak rewards, which obviously lack the Valkyrie Rocket, Chopper Gunner and Gunship. I found the kill streak rewards to be far more balanced but also they all had a way to be defeated or evaded which wasn’t beyond even the casual player. This removed a major level of frustration which I found present with several streaks in MW2. What’s more you don’t see the top level streaks being brought out quite as often and you never get the horrible situation of the skies being filled with enemy aircraft as you did in MW2.

 

Finally the maps themselves seem to be similar to those found in MW and WAW. They aren’t as complex as the ones found in MW2 and that I feel that is a good thing which encourages movement around the map rather than camping. It’s too early to tell whether I will regard any of them as classics in the way I see maps such as Asylum, Upheaval, Vacant, Downpour and Crash. But one thing is for sure, I certainly don’t find any of them as frustrating as I did the worst of the bunch in MW2.

 

Whilst so far this seems like an overwhelmingly positive take on Black Ops, there is a slight sting in the tail. Whilst I’m really enjoying it, and I feel it has the best online multiplayer of any COD game to date, it does lack a certain spark. When I first played WAW I was blown away, it changed my perception of an online FPS. Whilst Black Ops has bettered WAW in almost every way, it doesn’t have that WOW factor that I experienced when I first began playing online in WAW.

[nekunando]

If there's one thing that disappoints me that kind of relates to this game, it's the lack of N-E forumites (yeah, I decided to go with forumites, I like it) that have it.

There's barely 10 of us!

 

I was hoping that there'd be a fair few of us and that we could both dominate the online world as the N-E Clan (which we do tend to do anyhow) and also have good laughs in private matches amongst each other.

 

The game is outstanding, easily the best FPS on Wii and it easily has the best online system on the Wii... it'd be great to have a big N-E community on this.

 

 

Still, I do love the N-E Clan members we already have! N-E FTW!!!

 

I would expect to get Call of Duty: Black Ops at some point in the future, but not until it comes significantly down in price. I very rarely buy a game at full price these days..

 

If anything, there is a greater chance of me getting World at War before ever getting Black Ops as I've seen it around £15 and wouldn't mind seeing what it is like after enjoying Moder Warfare: Reflex

[Josh64]

" The Xbox 360 was the best selling version of Call of Duty: Black Ops in the game's opening week. Out of the 2 million sold copies in the UK, 55 percent were Xbox 360 versions and 42 percent PlayStation 3. The PC, DS and Wii versions took the remaining 3 percent. "

 

I knew more people bought the 360/PS3 version but I didn't think it was that much of a landslide o_O

[Kav]

" The Xbox 360 was the best selling version of Call of Duty: Black Ops in the game's opening week. Out of the 2 million sold copies in the UK, 55 percent were Xbox 360 versions and 42 percent PlayStation 3. The PC, DS and Wii versions took the remaining 3 percent. "

 

I knew more people bought the 360/PS3 version but I didn't think it was that much of a landslide o_O

 

It's always been that much of a landslide! Which is a shame really as Black Ops on the Wii is absolutely amazing, I actually prefer it to the 360 version and I was a HUGE MW2 player!

[darksnowman]

Well Zechs, now I wanna play all the Wii CoD titles.

[LostOverThere]

Source reliability? 3% sales combined for PC, DS and Wii sounds way off.

[Kav]

Well Zechs, now I wanna play all the Wii CoD titles.

 

I missed out on the Wii CoD's until just recently. I was always an avid 360 CoD player.

This changed after I had played Monster Hunter Tri and had gotten to know Zechs better through that, before we always played MH3 he'd always be having a few games on CoD: MWR. When Black Ops was announced for the Wii I considered giving it a try sometime, knowing that Zechs would have it. To ease my mind I decided to pick up MWR to try out the Wii CoD and get used to the controls.

Having done so, I can comfortably say; I'm glad I did! I much prefer the Wii version of Black Ops (I've played the 360 version a fair bit too).

 

The single reason being the level of control you have.

This isn't to say that I'm some kind of slouch on the 360, I was pretty damn good, but the big difference, and decider for me, is the speed at which you can accurately acquire numerous targets using the wiimote trumps dual analogue any day!

 

If at all you're thinking about getting Black Ops for the Wii, I simply cannot recommend it enough, we already have a good little N-Europe Clan on the go and we're kicking ass online. It really is superb!

[Zechs Merquise]

I would expect to get Call of Duty: Black Ops at some point in the future, but not until it comes significantly down in price. I very rarely buy a game at full price these days..

 

If anything, there is a greater chance of me getting World at War before ever getting Black Ops as I've seen it around £15 and wouldn't mind seeing what it is like after enjoying Moder Warfare: Reflex

 

Well there are a lot of games on the Wii that I eye up and wait for price drops and there are some that I jump straight in with.

 

I think games like Black Ops, where I'm going to spend around 200 hours on the online alone deserve the full price. It was the same with Monster Hunter which I spent over 300 hours on.

 

WAW is a great title and you can pick it up for £15 in my Tesco which is great value. It has sold 1.65 million copies to date so I'd imagine some people are still playing it online too.

 

Well Zechs, now I wanna play all the Wii CoD titles.

 

They're great titles and if you like the fluid Wii controls for FPS games you'll love them. The thing that shocked me most about COD titles across different platforms is how different they play and the different experience you have on different systems.

 

The stand out thing with Black Ops is the online system, which is essentially XBOX Live but free on the Wii. We have a great little N-E online community too and me and Kav are on every night so if you do jump in make sure you join us!

 

Our ultimate aim is to make N-E the most notorious clan on the Wii!

 

Source reliability? 3% sales combined for PC, DS and Wii sounds way off.

 

It sounds bad, but the Wii COD titles so far have sold well, COD3, WAW and MWR have all done over a million units worldwide. The reason it sounds utter poop is that the 360 and PS3 COD titles just do soooo much more. Added to that the Wii titles usually open with a steady 60k units and build showing legs over their lifetime and gently rising to a million a units. The 360 titles do about 5 million in their first week!

 

A million seller is still a big success, it's just when compared to a 7 or 8 million seller it doesn't look quite as hot haha!

[Kav]

Am I correct in thinking that only 10 members of this forum have this game?

 

Kav82

Zechs

Welshgamer

Ben

Lostmario

Mokong

Ville N

Overman

sjwbond

Pete95

 

That's a bit pants for what is quite easily the Wii's best FPS! I was really hoping we'd get a decent clan-base representing the site online... poop!

[James]

Probably because most people have a wii and an xbox and/or ps3, and would rather go for the game with the better graffix!!

[Kav]

Yeah I guess you're right. The graphics don't bother me though, I've got a 360 and know more people that play on a 360, but I'll take the Wii's level of control over the pretty graphics any day!

[welsh_gamer]

£24.98 delivered at Blockbusters and HMV

Edited December 17, 2010 by welsh_gamer

[Kav]

£24.98 delivered at Blockbusters

 

BARGAIN! Everyone that doesn't yet have this now needs to get it and join the N-E Clan's domination of the Wii!

 

Welsh, you should post this in the Wii General Discussion thread too!

Edited December 17, 2010 by Kav

[Zechs Merquise]

Look, this game is seriously a must for anyone that likes online FPS games and is by far the best example of how to do a great online system on the Wii. This is a great price, go get it and join in with us, we play virtually every night and have a great N-E community!