Can you believe this? [About the controller]

[tie.nano]

http://www.freedom-fighters.net/sigsource/index.php?showtopic=9882&st=0

 

Read through the thread, and you'll come across some of the comments made by people.

 

Some guy thinks that it's "a waste of time" and "useless".

 

I mean c'mon? - How is it usless or even a waste of time?

[LukeLee]

dont worry about people's reactions, people tend to be stubborn about new things. I remember a year ago the DS was so insulted. 6 months ago it was often said "who would buy Nintendogs" - things change.

[RATM_4_EVA]

it just takes time. dont worry

[MikeMania]

well, both sides had good points to their arguements, but the ninty fanboyism clearly came out in the end.

[Cubechris]

To be honest there are bound to be some haters, just like the group of people who dislike the current PS3 pad design. You can not please everyone

[Happenstance]

Ive found it amazing how many people have been going on about the controller not working with all games then when you tell them about the add on they seem to totally ignore you as it ruins their problems with the controller. Its happened on at least 3 forums for me so far!

[daftada]

I gotta admit I was totally gutted when I first saw it, then I started thinking of the great potential and loved it. The IGN mock-up of the shell controller was the icing on the cake for me. Give people time to adjust, i'm sure once they get a chance to have a go themselves they'll change their mind.

[GoonFace]

Lets mock them for having an opinion.

[Shmotz]

Oh no some people I don't know don't like some product a company I like made.

 

You can't expect everyone to just love the new controller. It's just a fact of life.

[Fierce_LiNk]

Lets mock them for having an opinion.

 

Well, having an opinion is one thing. But, i think this is too much:

" what a piece of crap lol."

 

[Stocka]

Once people play it they'll realise how great it is (providing it is)

[scubahood]

I like everyone was shocked when i first saw it but i knew there wasn't going to be any touch screen cause it would be blatently to expensive for a controller. As for those that are haters on the PS3 pad good on ya i've been saying it since the duel shock one they need to switch the left analogue stick with the d-pad and make give the sticks a slightly smaller surface area

[RATM_4_EVA]

that guy that was dissing it turned ariund around in the end. moral of the story, you will soon follow us all :unsure:

[YenRug]

that guy that was dissing it turned ariund around in the end. moral of the story, you will soon follow us all :unsure:

 

"We are the Nintendo, resistance is futile."

[Hal_9Million]

Some of my friends said that it looked like crap. What they mean is they find it funny that it looks like a TV remote. This has no connection to the gameplay element. There are going to be people out there who don't want to play games differently from the way they've always played. This is for everyone who's willing to try something new. I see it like this. There's no rule that says a controller has to be a funny ergonomic shape. There's no rule that says it has to feature loads of buttons on it's face, but for the last 2 generations, that's all that's been available, so people find anything else strange. I'm quite frankly bored of the conventional controller, and when people first saw that, they laughed at it. Can you honestly say that when you, or someone you know saw the N64 controller, you didn't think it looked strange? People will grow to accept this as a games controller, But for now, there are going to be poeple laughing. In fact, I'll bet there are non-gamers laughing at the strange shape of the Gamecube controller, or Playstation controller right now. I don't give a shit what they think because I enjoy it.

[mbnmac]

"We are the Nintendoids, resistance is futile."

there, i think thats better

[Kurtle Squad]

And anyway...didn't Nintendo make the controller what it is today!?!

 

Analogue

D-pad

Shoulder buttons

Trigger

Rumble

 

How can people say that Nintendo is crap!?

[Kav]

Here's a post over at eurogamer off a guy who copied this conversation off another forum, good reading even tho it's a little long:

 

So what did you play?

 

I played the Retro-fitted version of Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

 

And ...?

 

It played far better than the original controls. Turning and aiming were instantaneous. Control was absolutely precise.

 

At a certain point during the demo, one of our designers did a double-jump over a gap and spun a full 180 degrees in midair before landing on the opposite side. When I saw this my arm literally started shaking and had to grab and squeeze the cup holder on my theater seat like Doctor Strangelove to hold my arm steady.

 

Then he circle-strafed around a Space Pirate.

 

Yes, circle-strafed.

 

In Metroid Prime 2.

 

And that's without target-locking.

 

How were the controls set up?

 

It was set up in the "nunchaku" configuration described in the article. On the left controller, the thumbstick controlled player movement, the upper trigger button was assigned to visor-switching, and the lower trigger was assigned to the "scan" function and locking onto a target. On the right controller, the controller itself moved the player's gun independently of the player's view (yes, you could fire at any point on the screen without changing the player view -- the gun tilted to face toward the aim point), the trigger button fired the gun, and three of the buttons controlled jumping, firing missiles, and switching to morphball mode.

 

How does it compare to a mouse?

 

>From what I experienced, it seemed to be more precise than a mouse, but it's also much faster because it requires only a much smaller movement of the hand to achieve the desired effect. You just instantly point the controller at any part of the screen and bam!, that's where you're looking.

 

There is no lag.

 

There is no error.

 

It took a while to get used to the idea of how little effort is required to play a game with this controller. I kept wanting to lean forward and move the controller closer to the screen, and it took some practice to just sit back and just calmly move my hand ever so slightly.

 

At one point, someone said, "If you were to play a game with this against someone using a mouse, they'd have no chance against you." I had to admit it was true.

 

I've been using a mouse and keyboard for gaming for almost as long as I've been a gamer. I've logged over 80 hours so far in Battlefield 2 and I have a level 60 World of WarCraft character. If somebody had tried to tell me before now that a better controller would come along, I would have laughed at them.

 

But it only took me 5 minutes with the Revolution controller to realize that I don't need to use a mouse ever again.

 

Let's take a first-person shooter as an example. With a flick of the wrist, you can completely change your aim point from one corner of the screen to the other. Changing your aim point that way would require you to move a mouse all the way across a gamepad and could potentially take up to several seconds of pushing on a thumbstick with a standard console game controller.

 

Add to that the fact that the controller can correctly interpret roll (rotation of the controller clockwise and counterclockwise) and movement toward the screen or away from it, and you start to get an idea of the universe of new gameplay possibilities that Revolution games will be able to explore.

 

I would worry that if its in any way sloppily implemented, it will suck bigtime.

 

No worries in that category. If there was any sloppiness whatsoever, I didn't see it.

 

I do not expect to be using any other controllers ever again once the Revolution comes out.

 

This is cool as a novelty, but how does this lend itself to extended play sessions?

 

Try it yourself. Then see if you can still call it a novelty.

 

Trust me, I was very skeptical going into this. That skepticism is gone.

 

Could you imagine playing an FPS for over an hour with this without your hands getting tired?

 

Hell yeah, brother.

 

I often play Battlefield 2 for up to 3-4 hours in an evening (yes, I'm an addict), and after 10 minutes with the Revolution I'm ready to throw my mouse out the window for good.

 

When you take into account that the Revolution controller is very light (it seemed to me a bit lighter than I'd expect a TV remote of the same size) and that it's basically effortless to play with it, extended play sessions are a non-issue.

 

My concern is with playing today's standard genres of games. How do I play a racing game? Do I spin the controller around like a steering wheel?

 

That would be one way to do it.

 

Given the number of buttons available in the "nunchaku" configuration, combined with the tilt/rotate/push/pull aspects of the controller, I can't think of a game you couldn't easily adapt to the Revolution controller.

 

 

Naysayer: "It's just not going to work"

 

I have played it. It works brilliantly.

 

So now that you've played it, what kinds of things do you think are possible with it that weren't possible before?

 

Off the top of my head:

 

A tennis game where your motions control the racket directly, and you never have to press a button the entire game.

 

A racing game that lets you steer entirely by rotating the controller clockwise and counterclockwise.

 

A fencing game where you can slash, parry, and stab with the controller.

 

A Nintendogs game that lets you pet your dogs, pull on a leash, or throw a frisbee with the Revolution controller.

 

A real-time strategy game ... yes, on a console.

[CommandeR]

I want to know how it works so badly, everything I reads gets me more excited ... I want to play..... AHHH THE HOORRRROOORRRR

[Link]

I think anyone who has doubts about the controller should read that article. I never had any to begin with (because after 20 years of playing nintendo games, I've come to trust them) but this just solidified my stance. This is going to blow the competition out of the water. Nintendo #1 once again!!!!

[Bren]

People are saying its crap just by looks. No one can really say anything until theyve tried and tested it them selves, but who am i to stop people from expressing their opinions