Zechs Merquise Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 no offline multiplayer.. that's me totally not getting it. You say this everytime!!! Is splitscreen still that important in an FPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarf Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Online split-screen multiplayer is the way forward. As for shooters including this feature, Resistance 2 was brilliant. MK Wii had success in this field too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zechs Merquise Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Online split-screen multiplayer is the way forward. As for shooters including this feature, Resistance 2 was brilliant. MK Wii had success in this field too. What would be a step better is if something liked COD shipped with a cable so the second player could display full screen on a seperate TV in the same room. That would be epic. Both of you going online, from the same room, with a full TV and off just one console. I liked going online with my mates in Mario Kart Wii, but I found only having half a screen as quite restrictive. I never performed quite as well in races where it was just me and a full screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarf Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 That's just dumb. No really, it is. Just live with it, being on one screen is good in a way anyhow because you can show someone just as you're about to launch a rocket into someone's grid from 2 yards. A cable... Another TV within close proximity... Damn no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 The console would have to render double the resolution with that sort of setup as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 No Kill Cam (Kill Cam would be so glitched and messed up in the Wii version it would be ridiculous) Wut? Any Idea exactly what they mean by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 You say this everytime!!! Is splitscreen still that important in an FPS? yes yes and yes you'd swear the wii on-line was SO good it compensated for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zechs Merquise Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Wut? Any Idea exactly what they mean by this? I think that the kill cam was kinda rubbish anyway. Great for the guy who was killed so he could see the position of the sneaky sniper, not so great for the person who got the kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I think that the kill cam was kinda rubbish anyway. Great for the guy who was killed so he could see the position of the sneaky sniper, not so great for the person who got the kill. That does not matter since the moment you fire the sniper everyone on the other team will know where you are. Snipers can´t use silencer before you say that using a silencer will nullify that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tissuetown Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I think that the kill cam was kinda rubbish anyway. Great for the guy who was killed so he could see the position of the sneaky sniper, not so great for the person who got the kill. Predictable post. Haha. What ever features the Wii version is missing or lacking: "well it wasn't that great to begin with!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I think that the kill cam was kinda rubbish anyway. Great for the guy who was killed so he could see the position of the sneaky sniper, not so great for the person who got the kill. Completely irrelevant to my question. I'm wondering why they'd remove it, not whether or not it's a good feature that people like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Host migration (Match will end of connection is bad or if host leaves, but then all players will be brought back to the lobby and the person with the best connection will be chosen as host.) Someone needs to inform these people that "Host Migration" means that the game doesn't end when the host quits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Someone needs to inform these people that "Host Migration" means that the game doesn't end when the host quits. They probably realize that, but I'm guessing that the limitations of Nintendo's Wi-Fi network makes doing this correctly rather hard. At least ending the game and bringing everyone back into the same lobby is a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Completely irrelevant to my question. I'm wondering why they'd remove it, not whether or not it's a good feature that people like. They probably cut corners somewhere with the online (possibly even to get it to run better), and would have had to completely re-write the kill cam to make it work properly. From what I hear, it had some weird Lag problems in the original version that many people didn't notice, so perhaps they would be amplified in the Wii version. Just a few ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 I imagine they had problems with Killcam because of the control input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostOverThere Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Yeah, that is just weird. I honestly can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work on the Wii. Emasher seems to have the best idea. That if they've made changes and cut corners, I suspect they're choosing to focus on other areas of the game. Something tells me they haven't been working on this for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zechs Merquise Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Predictable post. Haha. What ever features the Wii version is missing or lacking: "well it wasn't that great to begin with!" Not at all, but it wasn't the best feature in the game was it now? There's somethings missing that are disappointing like the lack of ground war and the lack of voice chat. But the kill cam was a shit feature that allowed you to identify where your killer was hiding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarf Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Not at all, but it wasn't the best feature in the game was it now? There's somethings missing that are disappointing like the lack of ground war and the lack of voice chat. But the kill cam was a shit feature that allowed you to identify where your killer was hiding! But surely there was an on/off option, giving you the best of both worlds? In that case it's a bit of a letdown, and if you're only on a small map it's not bad to see how you got creamed, especially in 2 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Not at all, but it wasn't the best feature in the game was it now? There's somethings missing that are disappointing like the lack of ground war and the lack of voice chat. But the kill cam was a shit feature that allowed you to identify where your killer was hiding! Did you ignore my post on purpose? Shooting shows you on the map kill cam or no kill cam, simple as that. By no kill cam I mean that you can turn it off and search for games or host a game with no kill cams. The point of it all was to discourage camping which in my opinion is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The fish Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Did you ignore my post on purpose?Shooting shows you on the map kill cam or no kill cam, simple as that. By no kill cam I mean that you can turn it off and search for games or host a game with no kill cams. The point of it all was to discourage camping which in my opinion is great. Indeed, and to just let you know what actually happened. Camping is for cheap morons, and if you're a sniper, you should change your position after every shot anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Indeed, and to just let you know what actually happened. Camping is for cheap morons, and if you're a sniper, you should change your position after every shot anyway. At which point does stopping/staying in the same place become camping? Imagine you're the sniper, and you stop to take aim and make a kill. Now, what if somebody else comes straight into view? Should you move position for the sake of not camping, or do you kill the next target, take a quick look around and then move to another location? I could just imagine in a war, where a sniper on the other side gets two or three kills, and the armed forces just declare "That's so not fair! Camper!" and decide to head home. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tissuetown Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 At which point does stopping/staying in the same place become camping? Imagine you're the sniper, and you stop to take aim and make a kill. Now, what if somebody else comes straight into view? Should you move position for the sake of not camping, or do you kill the next target, take a quick look around and then move to another location? I could just imagine in a war, where a sniper on the other side gets two or three kills, and the armed forces just declare "That's so not fair! Camper!" and decide to head home. Haha. Firstly, campers are disliked because they make the games less fun. If you're competitive and play the game 24/7 and know of every nook and cranny in the game, you will probably be able to deal with them. But for those who just want to engage in a bit of shooty shooty, then campers are shit. Camping is not sitting in one position and picking off people in a 10 second spawn. They stand in one place for the majority of the game. The worst campers are those who camp in a spot where they can spawn kill you. Also I hope you're not trying to link real war with a video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Firstly, campers are disliked because they make the games less fun. If you're competitive and play the game 24/7 and know of every nook and cranny in the game, you will probably be able to deal with them. But for those who just want to engage in a bit of shooty shooty, then campers are shit. Camping is not sitting in one position and picking off people in a 10 second spawn. They stand in one place for the majority of the game. The worst campers are those who camp in a spot where they can spawn kill you. Also I hope you're not trying to link real war with a video game. Ok, so camping is where you stay in the same spot for the majority of the game? All I wanted to know what at which point does camping become camping, which you answered in your second point. It's bugged me a little when I've played FPSs in the past because I've found it hard to tell whether one person has just remained stationary for the majority of the game, or if they've stopped to take aim and get a few kills. The final comment was a bit of a joke scenario, something you'd probably see in a Monty Python sketch. Although, if you're not really a fan of linking real war with videogames, then maybe the Call of Duty thread isn't the right place to be. Might want to give Medal of Honour a miss, too. Edited September 10, 2009 by Fierce_LiNk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zechs Merquise Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Completely irrelevant to my question. I'm wondering why they'd remove it, not whether or not it's a good feature that people like. It will have been removed to optimise the experience. I should imagine that the replay would slow down the connection or increase the likelihood of lag. It's one less thing for the CPU to worry about. But surely there was an on/off option, giving you the best of both worlds? In that case it's a bit of a letdown, and if you're only on a small map it's not bad to see how you got creamed, especially in 2 player. No. Why would anyone turn it off? If one person turned it off he would be giving himself a disadvantage. It isn't there in hardcore either. Did you ignore my post on purpose?Shooting shows you on the map kill cam or no kill cam, simple as that. By no kill cam I mean that you can turn it off and search for games or host a game with no kill cams. The point of it all was to discourage camping which in my opinion is great. Shooting does not show you on the map when you are using silenced weapons. You show up on the map when you use non-silenced weapons. Hence, if you choose to use a silenced gun and the kill cam is on it takes away the perk of the weapon. Camping is just a way of playing. If you can't deal with someone who sits in the same spot then tough. I don't camp, I move around. But my friends all have different play styles. Some prefer sniping, some are heavy gunners who lay down cover and others run and gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 The thing with silencer is of the high amount of weapons not a lot of weapons have the choice of having silencers, just SMG and rifles and not all of them have the option of having one. Furthermore having a silencer decreases your accuracy meaning you have to go closer in for the kill and that does not really help your camping because people will most likely remember if they were killed in a certain location recently (Most COD 4 maps are small enough to make that count). Using a silencer works best when you ambush someone and camping kind of makes ambushing redundant because if your not playing against a group of idiots they will be able to predict your move. The multiplayer in COD 4 does a lot to discourage camping because no map I have played has a secure place to camp for, being always on the move is what works best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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