jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 If you lost what you had to gain, did you really lose anything? Then; is there anyone to blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Dare Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 it depends how you lost it. By chance, no to both. Through lack of action, yes and yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorty Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Of course, you've lost an opportunity. It may not be a physical item but it is something you've no longer got. It's always your fault. Not 'your' as in whoever reads this. I mean your fault specifically, James. Bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Dare Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 hahaha burrrn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 roffles. Hai. You r dere *knocks once, in an accidental manner* Ok. So what about the entity that is lost. By definition, it has been labelled as a positive path. Thus(!); how are you to know which path to follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 This isn't where I parked my car.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Dude! NO... Sweet. You missed the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 If you lost what you had to gain, you lost the possibility of gaining it. Yet you gained certainty that you will not get what you had to gain, a certainty that you did not have before when you were not sure of gaining it. An action or event is always a product of many variables coming together, thus direct responsibility can never be placed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 roffles. Hai. You r dere *knocks once, in an accidental manner* Ok. So what about the entity that is lost. By definition,You think it has been labelled as a positive path. Thus(!); how are you to know which path to follow? corrected. You only know if it´s positive if you have walked it because every experience differs between people and stuff. If you have to ask which path to walk, YOU ARE NOT PREPARED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 corrected.You only know if it´s positive if you have walked it because every experience differs between people and stuff. If you have to ask which path to walk, YOU ARE NOT PREPARED! I kind of agree, but! No amount of preparation can ready you for the reality of the walk. You can spend £200 on a pair of hiking boots, practice tying knots and making make-shift tents just in case you get lost and take an extra pair of socks with you but you can't guarentee you'll need anything that you carry, or that everything you carry is all that you need. So can you blame yourself for having picked the wrong path, if you did not know whether it was a positive path or not in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I kind of agree, but! No amount of preparation can ready you for the reality of the walk. You can spend £200 on a pair of hiking boots, practice tying knots and making make-shift tents just in case you get lost and take an extra pair of socks with you but you can't guarentee you'll need anything that you carry, or that everything you carry is all that you need. So can you blame yourself for having picked the wrong path, if you did not know whether it was a positive path or not in the first place? Buy a map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 How does a map define positive or negative? I don't rate my paths just in terms of elevation, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 You can blame blame yourself for taking the wrong path if the experience of others tell you that it´s bad but not walking the walk means that you rob yourself of the experience and if the general consensus that this specific walk is bad less people will follow it and people start to forget why we even went there. In my opinion you take the path you think will benefit most from and keep in mind that you will not learn the most from the most positive from. To overcome mistakes we must learn from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 How does a map define positive or negative? I don't rate my paths just in terms of elevation, you know. Just head for the X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 So it's about mentally thinking "this is a good path, because it has to be"? That in the end, it doesn't matter what path you take (or everybody takes), just that you have the positive mentality to believe it is the best path. The path least walked is the path least explored. Just head for the X.Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Which one? You have more than one X on your map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I kind of agree, but! No amount of preparation can ready you for the reality of the walk. You can spend £200 on a pair of hiking boots, practice tying knots and making make-shift tents just in case you get lost and take an extra pair of socks with you but you can't guarentee you'll need anything that you carry, or that everything you carry is all that you need. So can you blame yourself for having picked the wrong path, if you did not know whether it was a positive path or not in the first place? There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. Sorry, I had to. You can blame blame yourself for taking the wrong path if the experience of others tell you that it´s bad but not walking the walk means that you rob yourself of the experience and if the general consensus that this specific walk is bad less people will follow it and people start to forget why we even went there.In my opinion you take the path you think will benefit most from and keep in mind that you will not learn the most from the most positive from. To overcome mistakes we must learn from them But why should one assume that the path that is right for others is the right path for you? You cannot know if something is right for you before you have tried it as we cannot know the future. We can only make qualified guesses based on observation, but in the end we can never be fully prepared for everything, and thus we need to take chances once in a while. Life is best lived in the present - not in the past, nor in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundi Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 So it's about mentally thinking "this is a good path, because it has to be"? That in the end, it doesn't matter what path you take (or everybody takes), just that you have the positive mentality to believe it is the best path. The path least walked is the path least explored. It´s more about believing what path is the right one for you not going in and thinking it must be good for me because I say so It´s closer too say: this path must be right for me because other people say it is. Other people´s experience dictate your mentality when you take that path but only you can decide what you think at the end of it. But why should one assume that the path that is right for others is the right path for you? You cannot know if something is right for you before you have tried it as we cannot know the future. We can only make qualified guesses based on observation, but in the end we can never be fully prepared for everything, and thus we need to take chances once in a while. Life is best lived in the present - not in the past, nor in the future. We cannot decide if a path is right for us but when people around us tell us their experience of their path it will influence our choices based on what they think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 We cannot decide if a path is right for us but when people around us tell us their experience of their path it will influence our choices based on what they think. Which is why we need to walk the path ourselves to decide whether is was good for us. In the end we may not realise that it was good or bad. Maybe we realise it later, maybe we never realise it. Different paths can be right, but for different reasons. Choosing something is inevitably linked to not choosing something, and while one choice is right in some aspects, it will most definitely be not-right in other aspects - and that goes for nearly all possible paths in your life. So ultimately, can we really talk about choosing the right path? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayseven Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Right. No matter what path you pick, you're forgoing the other options. There is no right path, there is no wrong path - just path :P It's the mentality that you carry that shapes and/or defines that choice. External factors affect the mind only because the mind allows it. The path is irrelevant. You only get one journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEVILMURRAY Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 How does a map define positive or negative? I don't rate my paths just in terms of elevation, you know. Ask the Brothers Paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 If you had something to gain due to invested time and effort then you would have clearly lost said time and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Surely if you lost what you had to gain the thing you have lost is your expectation of it. Expectation is different to the experience and since expectation is made by yourself you could argue no one else was to blame. I think that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbob Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Right. No matter what path you pick, you're forgoing the other options. There is no right path, there is no wrong path - just path :P It's the mentality that you carry that shapes and/or defines that choice. External factors affect the mind only because the mind allows it. The path is irrelevant. You only get one journey. True, but the journey can have many different junctions and that is what makes it so interesting as such. There have been many a time where i have lost what i could of gained being possible friends, relationships etc, jobs. The usual stuff really. But there are times where these opportunities come about maybe once more to give you a second chance to gain what could of been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEVILMURRAY Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 You pay a quid to win the lottery, you don't win. You lost a quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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