Wesley Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Might be news of another developer going down this season. http://casuallyhardcore.net/gamingblog/ This would be pretty sad because they've been around a for a while and I was a fan of their Rogue Squadron series. However, if you look at their release list over the last 10 years it's not too surprising. So, let's talk about how Lair killed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Yes, Factor 5 are gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 As I said in the other thread, this kind of game development is unbearable without the support of a publisher. Funny though, how PS3 sent two great devs down the crapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choze Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I doubt you will find sympathy if you mention Lair or Haze. FR and F5 have made good selling games in the past but not recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer kirby Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 *Now waits for Silicon Knights to now close down* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 No way, this news sucks Hope it doesn't happen to many other developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_prOdigy Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 If it is true, could that mean they weren't developing Icarus Wii? Because I don't see Nintendo letting them go under while they were handling one of their own IPs, especially one so desired as KI. Then again, there's plenty more second parties to load it onto... After all this, I'm so glad Retro Studios are owned by Nintendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zechs Merquise Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 PS3 kills another! The problem with gams like Lair and Haze are that they were so expensive to develop - when they didn't perform that was it, kinda like all or bust! Either way, Nintendo are overloaded with cash at the moment and I think they should Factor 5 as they were a great a developer, it was just Lair and their PS3 support that sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit-Jr Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Great! In a few years Nintendo will be the only publisher/developer left. Then our only option at retail will be an archaic console and whatever Nintendo decides we are mature enough to play. I know im pumped! Ok i went overboard there. Im glad Nintendo has found success with Wii, but them having a stranglehold on the market leaves 3rd parties in a bad predicament. Can we have a universal console now? Please??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zechs Merquise Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Great! In a few years Nintendo will be the only publisher/developer left. Then our only option at retail will be an archaic console and whatever Nintendo decides we are mature enough to play. I know im pumped! Ok i went overboard there. Im glad Nintendo has found success with Wii, but them having a stranglehold on the market leaves 3rd parties in a bad predicament. Can we have a universal console now? Please??? No it doesn't leave 3rd parties in any predicament at all. Both those developers could have supported the Wii - Factor 5 went as far as to bad mouth it. Instead they supported financially risky alternatives, and when their products flopped they went down with them. It's not Nintendo's fault. In fact both developers had a pedigree of making great games for Nintendo in the past and being successful - Factor 5 with it's Rogue Squadron games and original members of FR with Rare and later with TimeSplitters. Maybe the developers should have stayed loyal to Nintendo? I know I'd have loved an exclusive FPS from FR and a new Rogue Squadron game from Factor 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy2211 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I think it's more the recession / credit crunch that's forced these companies to go bust. Haze and Lair weren't exactly retail successes (Both sold okay mind you), but Sony put alot of money into the developement of the titles so I can't see the companies having been hit to hard by the sales either. The problem was both companies couldn't output games quick enough to keep a steady income of revenue, and so when the global climate goes into a recession (Hit worse by the fact they're UK developers) the fact is they'll go under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I doubt you will find sympathy if you mention Lair or Haze. FR and F5 have made good selling games in the past but not recently. That's part of the problem. Great content in the N64 era (for factor 5 certainly and of course members of free radical) and certainly last gen but this gen nothing massive. I think I might go and play some rogue squadron to remember the good old times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoMan1031 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 That's part of the problem. Great content in the N64 era (for factor 5 certainly and of course members of free radical) and certainly last gen but this gen nothing massive. I think I might go and play some rogue squadron to remember the good old times. Loved the first and second one. Third was one was 'meh' (on foot was terrible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokhed00 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Funny though, how PS3 sent two great devs down the crapper. Yep, hysterical. *Now waits for Silicon Knights to now close down* Wouldn't be too surprised after seeing Too Human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Loved the first and second one. Third was one was 'meh' (on foot was terrible) yeah I acutally got rid of the third one I hated the on foot bits that much. It's at its best in ships, and N64 rogue squadron and the gamecube launch one are two of the best space combat games ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoMan1031 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 yeah I acutally got rid of the third one I hated the on foot bits that much. It's at its best in ships, and N64 rogue squadron and the gamecube launch one are two of the best space combat games ever... Yep agreed! I always hoped they would do a 4th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 yeah I acutally got rid of the third one I hated the on foot bits that much. It's at its best in ships, and N64 rogue squadron and the gamecube launch one are two of the best space combat games ever... I think the Cube launch one game was the best out of the lot of them. Theres nothing like cranking the sound up and fighting in the Return of the Jedi battle over Endor. Flying around in the Falcon when the music hits and then taking on stupid amounts of Tie Fighters while dodging Star Destroyers in the process just made for a fantastic experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The Multiplayer in Rebel strike is awesome though. Co-Op being all of the original and death matches. It makes me long for a massive online one...was hoping factor 5 would do it on the 360 or the PS3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzybee Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 *waits for some clever person to say Rogue Squadron looks better than all Wii games* To be honest, however much of a Wii Fanboy I am, if Factor could have pushed the PS3 like they pushed the Gamecube then I would love to have seen a pure flying Rogue Squadron 4!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoMan1031 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 *waits for some clever person to say Rogue Squadron looks better than all Wii games* To be honest, however much of a Wii Fanboy I am, if Factor could have pushed the PS3 like they pushed the Gamecube then I would love to have seen a pure flying Rogue Squadron 4!!! Lol, kinda true though... Factor 5 sure did know how to produce excellent graphics! I feel like playing on them now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Rogue Squadron's graphics hold up well to 360 games still despite it being a lower resolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Noo! I was a huge Rogue Squadron fan. Imagine Rogue Leader HD on XBLA/PSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Dare Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 so long and thanks for all the deathstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choze Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Huge shame they have made great games in the past. Two bad ones and... Will miss The Turrican and Rogue series. They should have seriously done downloadable releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit-Jr Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I could have sworn i saw Super Turrican slated for a VC release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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