Gizmo Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 Is Daniel Faraday coming back? That's all I care about. He was awesome.
Dante Posted January 12, 2009 Author Posted January 12, 2009 Gizmo said: Is Daniel Faraday coming back? That's all I care about. He was awesome. Yes, Daniel Faraday is back and one of the mains characther in this series. Reveal hidden contents Desmond looks for a woman who might be the key to helping Faraday stop the island's unpredictable movements through time; Locke finds out who has been attacking the survivors LA Times Article This season, the flashbacks and flashforwards will still exist, but another storytelling approach will dominate. And in classic "Lost" tradition, the producers won't explain what they're doing ahead of time. "We're really happy with the scripts that we're writing, but at the same time, there's this complete sense of fear and second-guessing in terms of whether or not the audience is going to groove on what we're doing," co-creator and executive producer Damon Lindelof said. "The show is taking on a new model in terms of the way we tell stories and finding a balance between what's happening off the island and on the island. Are the characters having an emotional experience no matter how crazy it is? That's the part we're focused on." The first seven episodes will focus on the aftermath of Ben's (Michael Emerson) pronouncement to Jack ( Matthew Fox) in the last scene of last season that the Oceanic 6 must all return to the island, including Locke (Terry O'Quinn), who has died. Jack's challenge is to enlist the rescued castaways to go back, but that will prove tricky since he and Kate (Evangeline Lily) have broken up; Sayid (Naveen Andrews) is trotting the globe, killing people for Ben with Hurley (Jorge Garcia) in his custody; and Sun (Yunjin Kim) has gone rogue. Viewers also will see what's happened to Penny (Sonya Walger) and Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick) after she rescued him and learn how Locke left the island and later died. The story of Walt (Malcolm David Kelley), who left the island two seasons ago, will continue, though his father, Michael (Harold Perrineau), died attempting to return to the island in the season finale. Sawyer (Josh Holloway), Juliet (Elizabeth Mitchell) and Charlotte (Rebecca Mader) survive on the island. "The conventional thinking might be that we're going to spend the entire season telling the story of how and if these charcters are able to make it back to the island," Lindelof said. "That's not what we're doing. Not by any stretch of the imagination." Since death on "Lost" is a relative term, as Cuse likes to say, fans can expect to see more of Jin ( Daniel Dae Kim) whether he survived the freighter explosion or not; the mysterious Christian Shephard (John Terry), whose death caused his son, Jack, to be on the doomed airliner; and Rousseau (Mira Furlan), who was shot to death. The ageless Richard Alpert (Nestor Carbonell) will pop up again. Although fans do not know what happened to Claire (Emilie de Ravin) -- the actress does not have a regular role this season, mind you -- she will appear during the season. For that matter, so will Vincent the dog, the only character the producers have committed to keeping alive for the entire run of the series.
Gizmo Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Then the show will be worth watching. Him and Emilie de Ravin of course. Am I the only Faraday fan or are there more of us? :p
GothicPlague Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Gizmo said: Then the show will be worth watching. Him and Emilie de Ravin of course. Am I the only Faraday fan or are there more of us? :p No you're not. I would go gay for Mr Faraday (slight exaggeration)
Molly Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 The advert says 'The beginning of the end' (or something) and yet there are still more serieseseses, not impressed.
ReZourceman Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Probably means "The beginning of where we knew where we were actually going with the story" [/become a pretty big LOST critic]
jayseven Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Zomg this is rolling around quick now! I will be buying season 4 on DVD tomorrow, I think, then cram them all in before S5 starts (i have exams 'til the 20th so it may well be staying up all night watching all eps in a row!)
Jav_NE Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 It has been a hell of a wait, but im so excited! Is it a double episode to kick it off? No doubt i'll be sad when i have to wait a whole week for the next part
Oxigen_Waste Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 ReZourceman said: Probably means "The beginning of where we knew where we were actually going with the story" [/become a pretty big LOST critic] ReZ, I don't intend to be mean, but nobody really takes Lost seriously. Within it's genre (fantastic), it's a neatly told tale that's far from being the very best ever developed in the genre but is still quite interesting to watch. Isn't that all you care about? The entertainment value of it? I think that what's bothering you is that Lost frustrated you with it's riddles and "too many questions" approach... which is what made Twin Peaks into the masterpiece it is today... and believe me, many of Lost's questions will go purposely unanswered... other than that, it's like Heroes, just suspend your disbelief and go along for the ride, while it's fun.
ReZourceman Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Oxigen_Waste said: ReZ, I don't intend to be mean, but nobody really takes Lost seriously. Thing is...what does that actually mean? I don't go into it expecting a serious drama, but it takes itself seriously, in the sense that it is a drama...and such. Oxigen_Waste said: ReZ, I don't intend to be mean, but nobody really takes Lost seriously. Within it's genre (fantastic), it's a neatly told tale that's far from being the very best ever developed in the genre but is still quite interesting to watch. Isn't that all you care about? The entertainment value of it? I think that what's bothering you is that Lost frustrated you with it's riddles and "too many questions" approach... which is what made Twin Peaks into the masterpiece it is today... and believe me, many of Lost's questions will go purposely unanswered... other than that, it's like Heroes, just suspend your disbelief and go along for the ride, while it's fun. I think its been extremely shit recently. IMO its not the kind of show that leant itself to being written as it went. It should have been firmly set out and plotted as a whole. I don't like the questions being unanswered, because they are so purposely made out as big deals yadda yadda yadda but thats just a small part of it for me. They use the twists and the mystery to help the show, but it doesnt mean anything if it isn't explained. I fully know I'm in the minority btw, but yeah. Its just not my cup of tea anymore. Its become ridiculous to the point of silly willy.
darksnowman Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 Jav_NE said: Is it a double episode to kick it off? Yep, tis. I saw it advertised last night at the break in 24.
Molly Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Oxigen_Waste said: it's like Heroes, just suspend your disbelief and go along for the ride, while it's fun. Yep, except Heroes isn't fun anymore, let's hope Lost still has some magic left.
ReZourceman Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 As Zack and Miri Make a Porno said ; "They're on the island, they're off the island...who gives a shit"
darksnowman Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Molly said: Yep, except Heroes isn't fun anymore, let's hope Lost still has some magic left. So there is someone else out there who doesn't worship Heroes! ReZourceman said: As Zack and Miri Make a Porno said ; "They're on the island, they're off the island...who gives a shit" ReZ... atleast you like 24, man.
ReZourceman Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 darksnowman said: So there is someone else out there who doesn't worship Heroes! Quite a lot I think. I ADORED it in season 1 and to a lesser extent season 2, but season 3....its just completely screwed itself over, by having plot holes galore, ie Claires blood fixing everything all the time, no one ever actually dieing for real, shock factor "oh its just gonna be Matts mind trick." "oh its not Matts mind trick....well its not even shocking anymore/will just be retconned next episode" then they all seem to switch personalities each episode, and finally Claire is given the worst dialogue in the world. And shes the worst possible person to say bad dialogue. Ugh. darksnowman said: ReZ... atleast you like 24, man. Damn straight.
Molly Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 darksnowman said: So there is someone else out there who doesn't worship Heroes! Similar ro ReZ, I used to worship heroes, couldn't get enough of series 1. But (like many others I believe) I've grown weary and frustrated with it. Excited about Lost though, woo.
DomJcg Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Rez, what the hell are you talking about? Plot holes aren't plot holes until its explained, then any issues with the plots can begin, you saying there are plot gaps in lost when the series hasn't finished yet is like saying when mr burns got shot "omg its a plot gap because we don't know who shot him". The point of lost is that it's a msytery, that the viewers are kept in the dark about things, when they are revealed they go OMG I GET IT NOW. If you dislike being kept in the dark then stop watching, walk away and watch (imo) the pointless gun fire in 24.
darksnowman Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Even though you tried to justify saying that 24 is just pointless gunfire with an "imo," I'm still disappointed with you, Dom. 24 is so much more than gunfire... there are knives and stuff used too! Molly said: Similar ro ReZ, I used to worship heroes, couldn't get enough of series 1. But (like many others I believe) I've grown weary and frustrated with it. Excited about Lost though, woo. Lol, I watched the first series back at the time to see what the hype was about, but I never really got into it. I kept waiting for stuff to happen, but it seemed like nothing ever did! Even the series finale was an anti-climax I thought so I just left it there and didn't go back. I actually thought Lost sounded like a really run of the mill idea when it was starting. I figured it would just be some Lord of the Flies retelling so I didn't buy into the initial hype. I caught the second episode cause someone I worked with had been talking about it and I haven't looked back since! I like the crazy sci-fi and the mystery surrounding what is going on. I think the characters are great too, due to the flashbacks you get a feel for the people they were before the plane crash/ before they came to the island. Plus: Jim Robinson.
ReZourceman Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 DomJcg said: Rez, what the hell are you talking about? Plot holes aren't plot holes until its explained, then any issues with the plots can begin, you saying there are plot gaps in lost when the series hasn't finished yet is like saying when mr burns got shot "omg its a plot gap because we don't know who shot him". The point of lost is that it's a msytery, that the viewers are kept in the dark about things, when they are revealed they go OMG I GET IT NOW. If you dislike being kept in the dark then stop watching, walk away and watch (imo) the pointless gun fire in 24. Lol. *Waits for penny to drop*
DomJcg Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 darksnowman said: Even though you tried to justify saying that 24 is just pointless gunfire with an "imo," I'm still disappointed with you, Dom. 24 is so much more than gunfire... there are knives and stuff used too! Plus: Jim Robinson. Meh i never overly liked 24, it's so manly? i dunno macho, rambo style, cool for the sake of being cool :P and rez i have no clue what your trying to imply, unless you DO know who shot mr burns
ReZourceman Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 I do know who shot Mr Burns, however I didn't say LOST had plot holes, I said Heroes had plot holes.
Jav_NE Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 They have explained alot, i dont know why you're complaining Rez, and the rest you just have to figure out yourself until they give more clues. Thats the fun of it! Jacob - hes the spirit of the island i think, not a real person. Most recently he took the form of Jack's dad, perhaps as a lure for Claire, but i dont know why. She's special though, giving birth on the island etc. Black Smoke - Sci-fi, cant really be explained, but i think it could be Jacob's true form. Dead People - Jacob can use / take the form of people who died on the island, hence why Boon, Charlie etc were seen again Polarbears - Were used to turn the wheel that 'moves' the island because whoever does so is banished, hence why Polar Bear bones were found in the desert (Ben was sent to a desert when he turned the wheel). Black Rock - The ship in the middle of the island must have got there when the island 'moved'. Simple. Time Travel / Moving Island - I've heard the island doesn't physically move, only through time. So the Island still exists in the same place, just not in the present. Cant think of anything else, but there have been clues / answer to pretty much everything!
Molly Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 darksnowman said: I like the crazy sci-fi and the mystery surrounding what is going on. I think the characters are great too, due to the flashbacks you get a feel for the people they were before the plane crash/ before they came to the island. Plus: Jim Robinson. Also, Sawyer is a hottie Yeah I love the mystery, twists, elements of the ridiculous, it's a great package.
ReZourceman Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Jav_NE said: They have explained alot, i dont know why you're complaining Rez, and the rest you just have to figure out yourself until they give more clues. Thats the fun of it! Jacob - hes the spirit of the island i think, not a real person. Most recently he took the form of Jack's dad, perhaps as a lure for Claire, but i dont know why. She's special though, giving birth on the island etc. Black Smoke - Sci-fi, cant really be explained, but i think it could be Jacob's true form. Dead People - Jacob can use / take the form of people who died on the island, hence why Boon, Charlie etc were seen again Polarbears - Were used to turn the wheel that 'moves' the island because whoever does so is banished, hence why Polar Bear bones were found in the desert (Ben was sent to a desert when he turned the wheel). Black Rock - The ship in the middle of the island must have got there when the island 'moved'. Simple. Time Travel / Moving Island - I've heard the island doesn't physically move, only through time. So the Island still exists in the same place, just not in the present. Cant think of anything else, but there have been clues / answer to pretty much everything! Well this post certainly helps TBH. I'd never thought of any of that. (However its the little things that I can't remember that from like Seasons 1 and 2 that dont make sense, or rather that I have a problem with) maybe I'll rewatch it sometime and give specific examples. I am aware this is basically saying "I cant remember what it is I dont like about the show" but....yeah. Im pretty retarded and sexual so....like....I'll be let off. Massive lol.
Mokong Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Jav_NE said: Jacob - hes the spirit of the island i think, not a real person. Most recently he took the form of Jack's dad, perhaps as a lure for Claire, but i dont know why. She's special though, giving birth on the island etc. Because Jacks dad is also Claires dad... they are half brother and sister
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