Nintendohnut Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 You want me to explain? Fine, I'm a Jailkeeper, who can protect/roleblock one player in the same night. That is why I believe that information has holes in it. I don't doubt you are good, but the results of the investigation are clearly flawed (for the reasons explained before). Now Change Vote: MBAM because, wether a kidnapper or a mind-controller. She surely is causing havoc around here. And I'm the one that takes the blame. Few things about that: 1. The information I have is not flawed. You have commited crimes and that is a fact. My information has been right every time so far. 2. You are also diverting attention to others. It has already been said that MBAM! is someone who controls people's will, not the kidnapper. Otherwise it would say, for example, she had committed a crime or sent a ransom. You are taking the blame because you are guilty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomJcg Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Vote: Jonnas One way or the other, someone on the list is evils Jonnas Mcoy << may not actually be evil, but has a high chance of being evil LazyBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Few things about that:1. The information I have is not flawed. You have commited crimes and that is a fact. My information has been right every time so far. 2. You are also diverting attention to others. It has already been said that MBAM! is someone who controls people's will, not the kidnapper. Otherwise it would say, for example, she had committed a crime or sent a ransom. You are taking the blame because you are guilty! I'm not saying she's the kidnapper. Only that she COULD be. The kidnapper certainly has forced people to do stuff, hasn't (s)he? And misdirectors exist, you know? And maybe magicians and witch doctors like in the second game. The information you have has to be flawed somehow. I mean, let's look at what the kidnapper has demanded: -Shino revealed his role -Esequiel claims his vote was the ransom -I don't know what the ransom for Zell was (could you tell us?) -Any other kinappings that may have happened Now, you think Dyson had to kill someone? That's not any common ransom, that's giving the mafia one free kill. Free kills are very valuable for the mafia. Don't you think the kidnapper would ask for a kill every single time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Buttons are Magic! Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 im not the kidnapper and to be honest im feckin fed up with this game cause well to be honest i make people vote for one another and if they dont do that something bad happens well i targeted coolness bears to vote for someone on the night one - and he didnt.. .. and moogle viper refused to fufill the bad bit saying it "wasnt fair" - well that was coolness;'s fault for not reading his pm so to be honest i dont care about this game anymore oh and moogle said it wasnt fair as he hadnt posted well thats just his fault aint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Yes but notice how the ransoms are different each time? (The first was a 'reveal you role' ransom, the second was a 'use your vote' apparently) they aren't all the same. Maybe what they get to send as a ransom is decided by Moogle at random. Still, going back to the original point... You have committed crimes. Both against me, and you have forced Dyson to. That is the information I got, and all my other information has been right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Im going to keep my vote as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Yes, the problem, Nintendohnut, is that they happened in the same day. You're saying I targetted two people on the same night? One more thing that proves it: -Shino clearly said he was paying a ransom when he revealed his power. -Dyson couldn't say anything about what he was doing. How come he was reacting like he couldn't talk? I can understand when it's forced voting, but killing is way more dangerous than a simple vote. That is the reason everyone voted for him, remember? Whatever he had yesterday, it couldn't be related to your kidnapping. That is why I couldn't have done the two things in the same night, and why I believe you were misinformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 But you could have done two things in the same night! Look: 1. You target me, and take me hostage. You have then committed a crime against me by holding me. This is the first part. 2. You send the ransom note to Dyson saying that he must kill to save me. In this way, in the same night you also make Dyson commit a crime. It is entirely possible. Seriously, we need one vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zell Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 The ransom for Lazyboy was that I was to give them something that was specific to my role (I'm not going to reveal it unless it's absolutely necessary). However the following night, when I was taken hostage, they took that item from me anyway. So from Day 3, the mafia (I think) have known my role. I'm not too sure about Jonnas. It's hard to say. I'll vote for him if I become more convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 The ransom for Lazyboy was that I was to give them something that was specific to my role (I'm not going to reveal it unless it's absolutely necessary). However the following night, when I was taken hostage, they took that item from me anyway. So from Day 3, the mafia (I think) have known my role. I'm not too sure about Jonnas. It's hard to say. I'll vote for him if I become more convinced. Thank you Zell, i'll return the favour at some later point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zell Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thank you Zell, i'll return the favour at some later point. Lol... no biggy, you were released, and I still lost my item anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 Votes 10 is a majority: Jonnas (9): Gizmo, LazyBoy, Nintendohnut, Esequiel, gaggle64, martinist, Haggis, MadDog91UK, DomJcg MBAM! (1): Jonnas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 But you could have done two things in the same night! Look: 1. You target me, and take me hostage. You have then committed a crime against me by holding me. This is the first part. 2. You send the ransom note to Dyson saying that he must kill to save me. In this way, in the same night you also make Dyson commit a crime. It is entirely possible. Seriously, we need one vote. It's no use. You don't trust Esequiel either, do you? Tsk, Tsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Want to give some examples of who you've targeted so far, if your the jailkeeper? As of now it's pretty certain you'll be killed so theres no reason to hold out on information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 What do you mean by that? I don't trust anyone! lol this is a mafia game, you're supposed to have suspects. Come on people, I have laid out all the evidence I can, I am telling you Jonnas has committed crimes and he is guilty. It needs one vote and you will all see that I'm right. People have been viewing this thread without voting tonight, use your vote now. I will be proved right when Jonnas is lynched, I guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Want to give some examples of who you've targeted so far, if your the jailkeeper? As of now it's pretty certain you'll be killed so theres no reason to hold out on information. Well, not much. Guys that are already dead, like Strider on the first night (and would eventually kill himself). Mr-paul on the second night. Dyson too, although I can't remember when... And there was that one night where my power didn't work. I think Mcoy (or someone else) roleblocked me. I had targeted Nintendohnut. What do you mean by that? I don't trust anyone! lol this is a mafia game, you're supposed to have suspects. Come on people, I have laid out all the evidence I can, I am telling you Jonnas has committed crimes and he is guilty. It needs one vote and you will all see that I'm right. People have been viewing this thread without voting tonight, use your vote now. I will be proved right when Jonnas is lynched, I guarantee it. I was talking about the fact that he says he received a ransom note, but you don't believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 That was lucky, so basically you targeted the people who died, leaving no way for anyone to back up your story? Awesome, and not suspicious at all:indeed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Well, not much. Guys that are already dead, like Strider on the first night (and would eventually kill himself). Mr-paul on the second night. Dyson too, although I can't remember when... And there was that one night where my power didn't work. I think Mcoy (or someone else) roleblocked me. I had targeted Nintendohnut. I was talking about the fact that he says he received a ransom note, but you don't believe him. Who did you target last night, when there was no kill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Lets predict this - he'll say he didn't use his power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 That was lucky, so basically you targeted the people who died, leaving no way for anyone to back up your story? Awesome, and not suspicious at all:indeed: Well, sorry I got unlucky. Although I just remembered. Who did you target last night, when there was no kill? Welsh_gamer! I'm sure he'll back me up! Unless he's the Godfather, then he'll lie and damn me to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zell Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I'm going to have to vote for Jonnas. I don't trust Nintendohnut that much and am still unconvinced of Jonnas' guilt, but it would be better than not lynching anyone at all, and it should at least give us some answers. Vote: Jonnas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esequiel Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 If it turns out Nintendohnut was wrong im pretty sure he will be lynched next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnas Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Thanks for the potion, Zell, it was quite useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 But if I'm right, then it shows that I am good. Also, it shows that I am dangerous to the mafia, so I will probably be night killed soon. A little protection tonight may help us out, then I can investigate someone else tonight? And it was also show that Esquiel was lying to back up Jonnas...possibly. But let's wait and see when Moogle comes online tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esequiel Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 And it was also show that Esquiel was lying to back up Jonnas...possibly. But let's wait and see when Moogle comes online tonight. 1) Im not lying to back up Jonnas. I got a ransom note telling me to vote for Haggis. 2) Did you not see Jonnas last remark there about thanking Zell for a potion.... That means it WAS jonnas who kidnapped him or w/e so it looks like we lynched the right person :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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