ReZourceman Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 The original was fucktastic. I was kinda disappointed by Tools of Destruction though, as the series drew on it became more and more weapon-focused, which for me was the wrong direction to take because the gadge and the platform controls/options were well built. Under-utilised being the key thing. I would've tried CiT but it kept the crappy weapon levelling system. Although I didn't play the earlier games, I agree with this (if that makes sense). TOD is definitely great, and basically the best 3D platformer that isn't Mario, but it definitely should have been slightly less gadge/vadge based and more platform based. They had a solid system and a great world and characters.
ReZourceman Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 CLiT.lololol My clitoris joke today was way funnier. This is just fucking childish.
dwarf Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 Killed it. ahahah I kid let's make this a recurring theme
Cookyman Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Hope this isn't true! From Shacknews.com Rumor: Hackers selling PSN credit card listby Steve Watts, Apr 29, 2011 7:15am PDT Sony recently revealed that credit cards were encrypted in the PlayStation Network data breach, but didn't rule out the possibility that hackers had obtained card information. Now the New York Times reports that hackers are claiming to have a database with 2.2 million PSN users' credit card numbers, and they're offering it up for sale. Kevin Stevens, a senior threat researcher at Trend Micro, noticed the discussions in various hacker forums, where he says they were offering to sell the list for more than $100,000. Researchers confirmed that the discussions are taking place, but there's no way to confirm if they really have the database. Stevens also heard from one forum member that the hackers offered to sell the data back to Sony, but didn't receive a response. "To my knowledge, there is no truth to the report that Sony was offered the opportunity to purchase the list," said Sony corporate communications director Patrick Seybold, who also reiterated that the data was encrypted. "Sony is saying the credit cards were encrypted, but we are hearing that the hackers made it into the main database, which would have given them access to everything, including credit card numbers," said iSec Partners consultant Mathew Solnik. He also points out that the hackers on forums knew details about the servers, which could indicate direct knowledge. Finally, the NYT notes that the San Diego office of the FBI is helping Sony in the investigation of the incident, but declined to comment. Edited April 29, 2011 by Cookyman
Aimless Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 I get all my reliable news from third-hand reports based on hacking forums.
Cube Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 The thing that gets me is "they tried selling it to Sony". Why would they even do that - what possible use would it be to Sony as Sony still have the database?
Cookyman Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) The thing that gets me is "they tried selling it to Sony". Why would they even do that - what possible use would it be to Sony as Sony still have the database? I did say it was a rumour. This is more reassuring. "All of the data was protected, and access was restricted both physically and through the perimeter and security of the network. The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken." "Spokesmen for Wells Fargo & Co., American Express Co. and MasterCard Inc. said they were monitoring cardholder accounts and hadn’t seen unauthorized activity relating to Sony. " Edited April 29, 2011 by Cookyman
flameboy Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Hope this isn't true! From Shacknews.com I had heard this rumour going around...think Eurogamer reported that some financial expert was saying this was the case but Eurogamer did back themselves up by saying the experts opinions were unsubstantiated.... EDIT: Here I fished out the Eurogamer quote; A security expert this morning claimed that "low-level cyber criminals" are currently shopping around lists containing the credit card details of 2.2 million PSN members. The claim is at this stage unsubstantiated, and conflicts with Sony's reassurance that credit card security codes were not held by PSN. ERRRR....Sony lying about not having security info on their network? This week, Sony communications chief Patrick Seybold tried to put fears to rest with another PlayStation Network/Qriocity FAQ. He attempted to dissuade users from feeling that their credit card information is at risk by stating that hackers couldn't possibly have all the information. Why not? Sony never asked for it, apparently. "Keep in mind, however that your credit card security code (sometimes called a CVC or CSC number) has not been obtained," he stated, "because we never requested it from anyone who has joined the PlayStation Network or Qriocity, and is therefore not stored anywhere in our system." Good news, right? Well ... perhaps not. We looked into the veracity of that claim and found evidence -- on PlayStation.com, no less -- that Sony did request your credit card security code when you signed up to PlayStation Network. There's even a screenshot of the billing page, viewable above, that shows it. Sony seems adamant that your security card information isn't at risk, so it's quite possible that, even if asked for, it was never stored, as per VISA's rules. Even so, why tell us it was never asked for when it looks like it was? We've contacted Sony for comment as we try and find out how this discrepancy occurred. For obvious reasons we cannot see what the PlayStation Network billing page currently looks like on our PS3s, but it's a strange situation nonetheless. Hopefully Sony has a good explanation for what looks like a disconcerting contradiction. So what gives this is kinda wierd that they would specfically come out and say this info was never asked for when it was? Edited April 29, 2011 by flameboy
Cube Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Its taken for purchases but not stored. It asks you once in a while to confirm a purchase even if you have saved your card from my experience. Seems to be used to verify the account for purchases within a period of time. From what I can gather, nobody stores the security code - that's the entire point of them. Anyway, I don't really see how this is any worse than ordering anything over the phone.
flameboy Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Its taken for purchases but not stored. It asks you once in a while to confirm a purchase even if you have saved your card from my experience. Seems to be used to verify the account for purchases within a period of time. There isn't much coverage today probably because of the wedding and other stuff going on. But what is there is silly drivel. You have large media organisations getting pranked by gamers. Pachter's password is apparently 'iamwrong' lol. We could get together and make some stuff up and pose as sources too? :wink: yeah no one is allowed is store the code...I've never once had it ask me to confirm a purchase or my details and I've had a PS3 for like 4 years or summit... Anyway the security thing has been cleared up; Sony has gotten back to us, noting that an error was made in the blog post and confirming that Sony does ask PSN users for a security code. However, it was noted that the numbers are not stored on Sony's servers so there's no risk. The PS Blog post has now been corrected and the erroneous information crossed out. The more worrying thing is still sony's poor communication and misinformation leaking out...
Sheikah Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Well since we all know we usually just click to buy things off the store without having to provide additional card details, it's obvious that the security code is not required for the majority of psn purchases. So if the card details we provided were obtained, there's really no reason why this couldn't lead to someone using them.
flameboy Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Well since we all know we usually just click to buy things off the store without having to provide additional card details, it's obvious that the security code is not required for the majority of psn purchases. So if the card details we provided were obtained, there's really no reason why this couldn't lead to someone using them. To be fair quite a few sites ask for you to add the security code at final stage of checkout. Also there is that other security thing just for your bank as well "Secursomethingorother"
Aimless Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Checking the CVV isn't mandatory, although you'll be hard pressed to find anyone reputable that doesn't. As this value isn't stored, however, it generally won't be rechecked unless something changes, such as the person with their card on file requests an item be sent to a different address or, say, orders something over a certain amount. The other data is relatively useless without your CVV and pin code: lacking the former online purchases are something of a dead end, without the latter even a cloned card is pretty much a waste of plastic.
Sheikah Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 A lot of places don't ask for the bank password thing, and even then, I'm pretty sure I had to create my own password to activate that. PSN definitely doesn't ask for that. It's true most places do ask you for a security code. But I wonder, how secure is a 3 digit code? This is conjecture, but assuming you had 3 chances to enter it right before your account was blocked, 1 in 333 of the several million could potentially be accessed.
Aimless Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 I'm sure there are ways around such security measures, but in some ways it's more about being a nuisance than anything. Frankly fraudsters don't have any reason to expend a great amount of effort on one particular card — unless it's a targeted attack on someone — as there are so many more gullible fish in the sea that'll hand over the missing details upon the receipt of a vaguely official looking e-mail or barely authoritative phone call. Assuming for a moment that someone walked away from the PSN incident with tens of millions of unencrypted account details, they aren't going to sit around entering them one by one. The data would be fed into an automated process that trolls for easy pickings.
Ryan Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Sony's conference is at 2pm JPN time. What's that in GMT?
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