Fierce_LiNk Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Kids film?! Haven't got a problem with kids reading it, but it cannot be described as a kids film or book. Is Lord of the Rings a kids book/film?
Dan_Dare Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 re: kids film. I read them when I was a wee nipper myself. I'd say maybe young adult would be a better description. especially the heavy religious slant of the ending. The movies are clearly aiming for HP and narnia markets though.
Rummy Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Hopefully they will manage to do it in a way that appeals to both children and adults, it's the themes explored in the books that I think makes them so good, there's no way they can cut that stuff out and keep the film good.
The Bard Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Is Lord of the Rings a kids book/film? No, it's an insult to kids to call it a kids book. It's crap, thats what it is.
Supergrunch Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Kids film?! Haven't got a problem with kids reading it, but it cannot be described as a kids film or book. Is Lord of the Rings a kids book/film? HDM is undeniably aimed at teenagers, but that doesn't make it worse. The problem with this family film thing is that the film won't be dark enough... the actual books were pretty dark in parts, and that probably won't be reflected in the films. No, it's an insult to kids to call it a kids book. It's crap, thats what it is. I too find Lord of the Rings very boring... *awaits flaming*
Fierce_LiNk Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 HDM is undeniably aimed at teenagers, but that doesn't make it worse. Yeah, but I see a book aimed at teenagers quite different to a book aimed at "kids." I mean, the whole series is sorta about Lyra growing up, and she does grow up quite considerably during the books. Maybe an underlying theme of coming of age? That's something that's more associated in books aimed at teenagers/young adults, and not kids.
Supergrunch Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Yeah, but I see a book aimed at teenagers quite different to a book aimed at "kids." I mean, the whole series is sorta about Lyra growing up, and she does grow up quite considerably during the books. Maybe an underlying theme of coming of age? That's something that's more associated in books aimed at teenagers/young adults, and not kids. Yes, it is to some degree a bildungsroman series, for both Lyra and Will. But that doesn't mean it's aimed at any group in particular. However, in this case, I think the publishers specify that it is for "young adults". Nevertheless, the vast majority of "young adults" would find it boring and/or not understand it.
Fierce_LiNk Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Yes, it is to some degree a bildungsroman series, for both Lyra and Will. But that doesn't mean it's aimed at any group in particular. However, in this case, I think the publishers specify that it is for "young adults". Nevertheless, the vast majority of "young adults" would find it boring and/or not understand it. In a way, I think I'm glad that I read these books later on. I don't really think I would have enjoyed them as much when I was 13 or 15.
Supergrunch Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 In a way, I think I'm glad that I read these books later on. I don't really think I would have enjoyed them as much when I was 13 or 15. No, some my friends read the first couple at about 10... they can't have got as much out of them. Actually, I think I may have read them at 12 though...
Nintendohnut Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 I have to say even though the book always described Mrs Coulter as having longer black hair, I always imagined her as a blonde. She also didn't look anything like Nicole Kidman, her hair was longer, much longer and not tied back. But hey, not everything can be like my imagination, right? :-P I can't wait to see a picture of Pantalaimon, anyone know who will be voicing the daemons?
Supergrunch Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Pantalaimon is voiced by Adam Godley, whoever he is. I don't know any of the other voices.
Fierce_LiNk Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 No, some my friends read the first couple at about 10... they can't have got as much out of them. Actually, I think I may have read them at 12 though... Whoa, that's quite a young age for a book like this, imo. I don't mean in terms of reading age, but like you said, getting as much as you can out of the books. Hmm, I wanna see what the daemons look like!
The Bard Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 no flames from me. Tolkien was a bit shit. Hooray! Anyway, even though the book may have been aimed at teenagers, they're still seriously more relevant than the majority of jaded, pointless "adult" books. They can be enjoyed by people of any age; my English teacher also loves them, they wouldn't have sold as well as they did had they been aimed at adults. As a matter of fact, the majority of great contemporary literature I've come acruss has been aimed at children.
Rummy Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 I dunno if anyone's mentioned this anywhere already, but there's a site and a trailer courtesy of my friend who just told me about it. One thing which is really fucking annoying me? The fact the site and trailer refer to The Golden Compass. SCREW YOU AMERICANS AND YOUR APPARENT STUPIDITY! http://www.goldencompassmovie.com/ It appears Nicole Kidman is staying blond, whereas I'm sure Mrs Coulter had a sort of goldish brown colour to her hair, more on the darker side. Same friend said he was thinking more along the lines of Catherina Ztea-Jones, to which I said 'oo'.
jayseven Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 you can make your own daemon on that site. Here's mine from ages ago. You can share the link and get others to do the test of your personality for a few days, and it'll change to fit a more accurate animal until the time's over and it'll stay fixed.
EEVILMURRAY Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Just seen the trailer. Not bad. Pantalaimon is voiced by Adam Godley, whoever he is. I don't know any of the other voices. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0324134/ Look. At the Size. Of those tabs. His voice best be up to scratch. No, it's an insult to kids to call it a kids book. It's crap, thats what it is. Fucking right doggie. The kids wouldn't have lasted no where near as long as I did attempting to read it. They'd be in comas after the first chapter.
Ellmeister Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 I have read HDM books, Wind Singer books and Eragon. All absolutely awesome books! Right up there with my favourites, although I have to say a recent book I read 'the righteous men' may have overtaken them all. I'm not so sure about these movies.. I felt the way Pullman was so fecking great at the story they can't show that emotion in the film.. the whole lovey dovey stuff was brilliant, coming from a dude who isn't a fan of lovey dovey books and movies. I'm hoping for the best, but if its like Eragon I won't be happy. To me they ruined Eragon. Books still awesome
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